Around the league part 2

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Mattias

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I'll have to go over to their board. There is probably more rejoicing than a baptist revival over there.
Love the analogy.

Listened to 32 thoughts this morning and a couple tidbits came out.

Ownership planned to have GM let go at end of year. Why fire after trade deadline? The game where the rangers came back and won (and the arena sounded like Madison square garden) sealed the fate.

Provorov was also a catalyst. No ownership enjoys things sprung on them and that situation was a big surprise.

…and you’re right, the flyers board is basically speaking in tongues of happiness at this point.
 

johnjm22

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According to that the Flames have one of the easiest schedules in the NHL from here on out. Winnipeg's is more difficult.

So Calgary still has a chance.

But this is the type of loss that totally crushes team morale.
 

kilowatt

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With Calgary's loss, we're officially 13 points ahead of 9th-place Calgary with 16 games to go. If we go 8-8 in remaining games, we'll reach 100 points on the year. Calgary would need to go 14-1-1 to reach 100 points.
 

Fishhead

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According to that the Flames have one of the easiest schedules in the NHL from here on out. Winnipeg's is more difficult.

So Calgary still has a chance.

But this is the type of loss that totally crushes team morale.

I don't think it's much of a chance at all, cake schedule notwithstanding. They'll probably need to win 75% of their remaining games and hope that Winnipeg completely shits the bed. Calgary still has Vegas 2x, Kings 2x, Dallas, Nashville, Winnipeg. It's a really, really tall order as they don't hold any tiebreakers.

Every team except the Jets is 96%+ to make the playoffs, haven't seen the West top-7 or 8 so clear this early in a loooong time.
 

Herby

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Sutter’s shelf life is over. The grind is one thing if you win, but without the results he just wears on guys.

It's pretty incredible how bad all the major transactions Calgary was involved with have been for all the teams and most of the players.

Huberdeau, Kadri and Weeger have all been way down from last year and the team is bad. Both the teams they all left have also been down from last year.

Gaudreau is way down from last year individually, and the the Blue Jackets are awful, and as mentioned the Flames miss him a lot.

Tkachuk has been very good individually but the Panthers have been bad, and likely will miss the playoffs.
 

tny760

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Pretty good.

very. maybe they're due for some regression in terms of that chart but QB seems like he's adjusting to NHL physicality and kempe/kopi are crushing it. among the lowest ga/60 too

amusingly stutzle nowhere to be found on that chart for those who love making that comparison!
 

Axl Rhoadz

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very. maybe they're due for some regression in terms of that chart but QB seems like he's adjusting to NHL physicality and kempe/kopi are crushing it. among the lowest ga/60 too

amusingly stutzle nowhere to be found on that chart for those who love making that comparison!
Just need 18 more points out of Byfield for @Herby and I to win @Sol's money!
 
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johnjm22

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amusingly stutzle nowhere to be found on that chart for those who love making that comparison!
If you click on the full image you can see Stutzle's line on there at #19 :)

On the prospects board there was a poster criticizing QB because he's benefiting from playing with the Kings "best" players. But Stutzle is playing with Tkachuk and Giroux.

Stutzle's P60 is 2.26.

Byfield since moving to the top line is about 2.20 (can someone check that?) So not a huge difference. That's a fantastic rate for a 20 year old. Stutzle is 21, BTW.
 

Herby

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Just need 12 more points out of Byfield for @Herby and I to win @Sol's money!
We are making a late run. Probably still a slight dog due to lack of PP time and time wasted in AHL. Had he been on the wing all year it would have been a lock.

I think QB has a chance to be a point per game winger in the NHL as soon as next season, assuming Kopi can keep it up as the 1C. The Kings can say he’s a center, but the difference in play is night and day. Putting him back at C would be stupid.
 

Raccoon Jesus

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Wow, QB is playing better with Kopitar than Athanasiou or Lizotte?

I guess I must have missed that period that Stutzle was playing 8 minutes a game with Parker Kelly.


We are making a late run. Probably still a slight dog due to lack of PP time and time wasted in AHL. Had he been on the wing all year it would have been a lock.

I think QB has a chance to be a point per game winger in the NHL as soon as next season, assuming Kopi can keep it up as the 1C. The Kings can say he’s a center, but the difference in play is night and day. Putting him back at C would be stupid.

Really brings me back to when I was comparing him to Wheeler, even down to playing C before and being super raw. With how D-minded he showed he could be I never thought simplifying the game at wing would be the thing to help him put his game on rails. Though I know @King'sPawn and I advocated for basically exactly this, a 'mentoring' player next to you (Byfield with Kopi, Turcotte with Danault, etc).
 

Sol

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We are making a late run. Probably still a slight dog due to lack of PP time and time wasted in AHL. Had he been on the wing all year it would have been a lock.

I think QB has a chance to be a point per game winger in the NHL as soon as next season, assuming Kopi can keep it up as the 1C. The Kings can say he’s a center, but the difference in play is night and day. Putting him back at C would be stupid.
Eh I think he’s been pretty lucky to rack up these random points since he’s been a benefactor of Kopitar and Kempe. Gonna be close.
 

johnjm22

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Implying he's better at wing, and should be a winger, is jumping to conclusions.

Small sample size. Too early in his development.

This isn't a Vilardi situation. QB has the attributes to cover more ice and be a play driver.

Not developing him at center would be the stupid thing to do.
 
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tny760

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If you click on the full image you can see Stutzle's line on there at #19 :)

On the prospects board there was a poster criticizing QB because he's benefiting from playing with the Kings "best" players. But Stutzle is playing with Tkachuk and Giroux.

Stutzle's P60 is 2.26.

Byfield since moving to the top line is about 2.20 (can someone check that?) So not a huge difference. That's a fantastic rate for a 20 year old. Stutzle is 21, BTW.
haha yeah just a bit of trollin

i think the age difference between the 2 is the thing i like to bring up the most, like let's compare stutzle 6 months ago to byfield today if we want to draw that. quite frankly i think it's a silly comparison no matter what because they're top to bottom different types of players and sold completely differently
 

tny760

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We are making a late run. Probably still a slight dog due to lack of PP time and time wasted in AHL. Had he been on the wing all year it would have been a lock.

I think QB has a chance to be a point per game winger in the NHL as soon as next season, assuming Kopi can keep it up as the 1C. The Kings can say he’s a center, but the difference in play is night and day. Putting him back at C would be stupid.
i'm not sure i see it so much as him sustaining due to kopi, QBs down there diggin in the hard spots lately. early season he was falling down like a f***in baby deer but he seems to be figuring out how his size can help him. i'm kinda more on the track that playing wing gives him a bit more flexibility to learn on the job and that's the reflection we're seeing, not necessarily an inability to play center

no doubt his play is different, but i think the reason WHY it's different is pretty unclear still
 
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