Around the league part 2

[chris kontos]

Of course eichel will make medical miracle recovery in time for the playoffs.
Gotta keep that vagas market cookin

 

[kovacro]

I wonder if he'll have a recovery just in time for the playoffs.

 

[tny760]

i'd be a little more upset if we were talking a "reinjury" of his neck or some easy bs excuse but he's already had knee surgery right so it's kinda like.. legit sounding. just lost stone too

does get kinda old though and quite frankly their playoff spot isn't guaranteed right now

 

[Herby]

I’m not going to question the medical diagnosis of the doctors, but it’s still ridiculous that the cap does not extend into the playoffs to prevent any shadow of doubt.

If you have an LTIR you can add to your roster to replace that player, but for each individual playoff game you can’t have an active dressed lineup with AAV’s that exceed the cap. I don’t know why this is so hard to agree to. If that means making a tough lineup decision in the playoffs, oh well, you would known that would be a reality when you made the trade to add players to fill in for the LTIR guy.

Every time one loophole is fixed the lawyers just find another one.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I’m not going to question the medical diagnosis of the doctors, but it’s still ridiculous that the cap does not extend into the playoffs to prevent any shadow of doubt.

If you have an LTIR you can add to your roster to replace that player, but for each individual playoff game you can’t have an active dressed lineup with AAV’s that exceed the cap. I don’t know why this is so hard to agree to. If that means making a tough lineup decision in the playoffs, oh well, you would known that would be a reality when you made the trade to add players to fill in for the LTIR guy.

Every time one loophole is fixed the lawyers just find another one.

No one ever has a good retort for this, it makes too much sense. It's a simple, no frills solution that addresses everything about the spirit of the rule.

 

[johnjm22]

I guess the one retort could be the NHL wants to have as many star players playing in the playoffs as possible.

I do think cap hits for players acquired during the season should be prorated if you're applying the cap during the playoffs. If you acquire a 4M player at the deadline, his cap hit should only be 1M.

 

[kingsholygrail]

No one ever has a good retort for this, it makes too much sense. It's a simple, no frills solution that addresses everything about the spirit of the rule.

I mean, the retort is that the NHL and NHLPA don't seem to be bothered by it.

 

[kingsfan28]

Nobody should be surprised...
Mark Stone is next to LTIR.

 

[lumbergh]

No one ever has a good retort for this, it makes too much sense. It's a simple, no frills solution that addresses everything about the spirit of the rule.

Can the NHL realistically regulate the salary cap during the postseason when the players aren’t paid salary for the postseason?

 

[Herby]

Can the NHL realistically regulate the salary cap during the postseason when the players aren’t paid salary for the postseason?

It would have to be collectively bargained in the next CBA, which it probably will, and then there will be some new loophole teams will take advantage of.

 

[lumbergh]

It would have to be collectively bargained in the next CBA, which it probably will, and then there will be some new loophole teams will take advantage of.

What I mean is, the salary cap is calculated for each regular season day for salary paid during the regular season. How do you calculate a salary cap figure for the postseason when the players aren’t paid during the postseason?

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

What I mean is, the salary cap is calculated for each regular season day for salary paid during the regular season. How do you calculate a salary cap figure for the postseason when the players aren’t paid during the postseason?

Leave the cap what it was at the end of the reg season....so last day of reg season cap is 82.5 million....and the daily salary of player ABC is 3.4 million, you total up the 23 players etc,

Obviously the numbers are made up....but that's how you do it.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Mathieu Olivier with a good fight tonight against Ross Johnston.

I am looking at him hard if I am Rob Blake.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Mathieu Olivier with a good fight tonight against Ross Johnston.

I am looking at him hard if I am Rob Blake.

Yes I bet Blake is looking for a bandaid token tough guy just hope he's not in a bubble like McEwen

 

[Johnny Utah]

The 4th line is horrible and soft. Olivier is way better than McEwen as both a player and fighter.

 

[unicornpig]

Boston semi useful

 

[AbsentMojo]

The 4th line is horrible and soft. Olivier is way better than McEwen as both a player and fighter.

I think we all remember how the 4th line got caved in. No one wanted Bugstadt on this board saying he was too slow, but he was physical and dominated at 4C.. thats the kind of 4th line we need is big guys who can play and will hit in the post season. We need size and strength and at least 1 guy who will fight and 1 guy who skates good enough to make hits.. someone better than grundstrom

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Can the NHL realistically regulate the salary cap during the postseason when the players aren’t paid salary for the postseason?

What I mean is, the salary cap is calculated for each regular season day for salary paid during the regular season. How do you calculate a salary cap figure for the postseason when the players aren’t paid during the postseason?

I think the easy response to that is it's 'salary', you're not getting 'bonus' for playing the postseason (which is what makes the owners so happy regardless). So there's no real reason that the cap shouldn't suddenly be the cap. Of course I can see the flipside argument. SO maybe that impasse is why.

I guess in the end I'm a little surprised there isn't MORE stink about this because that's the easy solution to a problem, yet as you and other's mention, no one seems to care. So maybe why should I, even if several champions have won in possibly large part due to at least one player taking huge advantage of the provision.

I mean my view is it's a huge, random situational competitive imbalance that just reinforces that a championship is huge part luck too but good grief it's stupid that the best thing that could happen to a team is Kopitar, Doughty, PLD, and Fiala getting hurt for jsut a month right before the deadline then you can trade for Karlsson McDavid and Matthews just because of fortune. Oh weird everyone's sprained boners are all better and we're icing the mid 1900s canadiens with a salary cap 40 million more than everyone else just because of injury timing

 

[Sol]

Just a quick mention that here in 2024 Kings fans still live rent free in the heads of Sens fans. What pathetic fans.

 

[lumbergh]

I think the easy response to that is it's 'salary', you're not getting 'bonus' for playing the postseason (which is what makes the owners so happy regardless). So there's no real reason that the cap shouldn't suddenly be the cap. Of course I can see the flipside argument. SO maybe that impasse is why.

I guess in the end I'm a little surprised there isn't MORE stink about this because that's the easy solution to a problem, yet as you and other's mention, no one seems to care. So maybe why should I, even if several champions have won in possibly large part due to at least one player taking huge advantage of the provision.

I mean my view is it's a huge, random situational competitive imbalance that just reinforces that a championship is huge part luck too but good grief it's stupid that the best thing that could happen to a team is Kopitar, Doughty, PLD, and Fiala getting hurt for jsut a month right before the deadline then you can trade for Karlsson McDavid and Matthews just because of fortune. Oh weird everyone's sprained boners are all better and we're icing the mid 1900s canadiens with a salary cap 40 million more than everyone else just because of injury timing

I hear you RJ. Totally agree on principle but I just don’t quite see how it works in practice.

 

[johnjm22]

I know I've been saying this for years, but I'm still annoyed LA didn't pursue Mason Marchment when he was a UFA.

I understand the cap situation and risks at the time, but the analytics were saying yes. It's so rare those type of players are available. Teams give up an arm and a leg for that type of player (see Jeannot).

He's killing it for Dallas right now. He's exactly they type of player we're lacking.

 

[kovacro]

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[Raccoon Jesus]

Just a quick mention that here in 2024 Kings fans still live rent free in the heads of Sens fans. What pathetic fans.

I’d say “what did I miss this time” but even when the Kings were off for like 14 days I was still getting DMs about karlsson and they were still making fun of Byfield so yeah some things never change

 

[Herby]

The Kings-Sens HFB "rivalry" is so lame. For the last dozen years I've read some of the stupidest posts ever when commenting about Hall of Fame players, and yippee, now we have a sequel to look forward to?

I just don't understand the need to tear down other players to prop up your own, I know it's something that is common all over every sports forum, but it just baffles me why it occurs. The comment saying that Byfield's goal was not as good as Stutzle's was just another in the long line of embarrassing face-palm ones the last dozen years or so. You have a player on your own team who has put up numbers his first 3 seasons in the league that indicate he is destined for a Hall of Fame career, there is plenty he has done on his own to pump him up, and yet you decide to go into a QB thread and take a shot at a player who is starting to develop into a potential star player himself, why? Even worse that it wasn't even close, Byfield's goal was clearly more impressive.

As for more happier things, Auston Matthews is going to completely lap whoever you have as your best American born player ever (I personally think its a Kane vs. Chelios battle). If this guy were playing in NY or Chicago he would be the face of the league for American fans. I know Kucherov and Mac are putting up a ton of points and McD has to be considered, but I think you have to give Matthews the MVP if he runs away with the goal-scoring this much, it's like when Hull won MVP in 91 with 86 goals. Right now Matthews is on pace for 77(!!) goals, while the guy projected to finish 2nd Sam Reinart is on pace for 57. 77 goals would be the most in the league since the aforementioned Hull in 91, recognize the historic season.

 

[Sol]

The whole hate from Sens fans comes from the fact that Doughty won a Norris and he won a cup twice. Sens fans entire pride and joy is the fact that Karlsson won a Norris. And it hurts their feelings that Doughty who you can make a strong case for, had a style that wins cups in his prime along with being a Norris level dman.

Karlsson will go down as a very talented OFD but it’s also no surprise that the times in his career where’s really shined was on bad teams because he got to play loose with no repercussions. There’s a couple instances when the Sens went deep in the playoffs and Sweden won gold. Those are the two instances where he’s had some team success but overall nothing impressive at all team wise.

It must make them insecure because Doughty got the Kings to the end of the line. Karlsson was never able to. I know it hurts Sens fans and that makes me happy. I’m honestly more impressed that Stutzle didn’t dive into the goal. This byfield vs Stutzle contention is just getting started.