Around the league part 2

[YAYSAY]

For the third straight year, the Kings are third in the division.

Doesn't look like Fiala and PLD have been the answer, either.

I mean that's slightly disingenuous considering kings have 5 games in hand on the two teams above them

 

[King'sPawn]

I mean that's slightly disingenuous considering kings have 5 games in hand on the two teams above them

Same if you consider win percentage

 

[bland]

Your telling me the Kings would be a better team with Faber instead of Fiala?

Fiala who led the team in scoring and likely would have broke a hundred points had he not been injured.

This team would be losing 2-1 ever game had Fiala not been acquired.

LA tied their point record last year and set a record to start this season.

The hate on this board lately has been palpable.

Kings have warts. Home record sucks. They are a capable team tho and are in the thick of it. All I see lately is PL sucks. Blake sucks. Ex kings rule. Yes you (Royal you) have every right to criticize and critique and be the smartest guy in the room, just been a funny year on here for a team that is actually pretty decent.

Yes, the Kings would be a MUCH better team with Faber than Fiala.

Fiala is just very good production wrapped up in fancy edgework with a ten cent brain whose playing style dictates that he will never be able to play with other high-level linemates. He is a highly productive supporting player

Faber is a difference maker for a decade. If you don't understand why a top pairing shutdown defender who notches 40-50 points is more valuable than a winger - ANY winger - in a playoff series then you haven't paid attention to the NHL. This is a future captain and likely Norris candidate.

I mean that's slightly disingenuous considering kings have 5 games in hand on the two teams above them

True, but I wouldn't bet on the Kings having home ice come round one.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I remember writing a long list this summer of Kings drafting and development showing that the drafting is fine but the development/deployment is absolute ass because they keep going elsewhere and having more success

Faber is more proof that they know how to draft and not what to do with what they've got.

 

[YP44]

For the third straight year, the Kings are third in the division.

Doesn't look like Fiala and PLD have been the answer, either.

not by points % they are not. Point is valid though. (edit nevermind they are not by .001)

A lot of people will not like it but LA has two generational talents that they are trying to make the most of right now, and those two talents are not regressing like most...so f*** it why not.

IS LA a contender or a paper tiger. We will see, all i know is this team is way better than alot of late 90s early 2000 teams.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

True, but I wouldn't bet on the Kings having home ice come round one.

Might be a good thing.

 

[Schmooley]

Yes, the Kings would be a MUCH better team with Faber than Fiala.

Fiala is just very good production wrapped up in fancy edgework with a ten cent brain whose playing style dictates that he will never be able to play with other high-level linemates. He is a highly productive supporting player

Faber is a difference maker for a decade. If you don't understand why a top pairing shutdown defender who notches 40-50 points is more valuable than a winger - ANY winger - in a playoff series then you haven't paid attention to the NHL. This is a future captain and likely Norris candidate.



True, but I wouldn't bet on the Kings having home ice come round one.

The thing is we wouldnt have the same Faber here right now. He would not be a top pair dman playing half the game in all situations. Hed be on the third pair.
Just like Vilardi was on the third line here and top line in Winnipeg.
I can see Kaliyev being the next guy to thrive elsewhere in another teams top six. They cant seem to find a place for him and can see him being a piece traded in the offseason to land a goalie if they dont see Portillo in the NHL next year.

 

[LAKings88]

Yes, the Kings would be a MUCH better team with Faber than Fiala.

Fiala is just very good production wrapped up in fancy edgework with a ten cent brain whose playing style dictates that he will never be able to play with other high-level linemates. He is a highly productive supporting player

Faber is a difference maker for a decade. If you don't understand why a top pairing shutdown defender who notches 40-50 points is more valuable than a winger - ANY winger - in a playoff series then you haven't paid attention to the NHL. This is a future captain and likely Norris candidate.



True, but I wouldn't bet on the Kings having home ice come round one.

I call BS @bland . I've watched and played hockey for 35 years, I understand the game. For years we all bitched and moaned that the Kings needed a scoring winger. They got a guy in his prime for 8 years at the cost of a solid player that was traded from a position of depth. Yes the dude makes risky plays but is still a needed commodity.

Faber is a very solid defender by all accounts. He never has been known as an offensive dman but maybe it's there given the opportunity to show it. I'm sure he is on par with Anderson defensively.

I'm still very high on Spence and I think Clarke will provide an offensive game Faber will never reach.

Faber is getting a lot of recognition lately and could vie for the Calder. I'm not trying to poo poo Faber. I think he is a good player and is a big part of that Minnesota team for years to come. I still don't give him much of any thought tho honestly. I think the Kings really need Fiala and what he brings. Would I rather have Faber than say Spence, probably, but Spence is no slouch and very underrated likely due to his size.

 

[LAKings88]

For the third straight year, the Kings are third in the division.

Doesn't look like Fiala and PLD have been the answer, either.

Maybe they wouldn't be in the playoff hunt at all without them tho right?

 

[chris kontos]

The thing is we wouldnt have the same Faber here right now. He would not be a top pair dman playing half the game in all situations. Hed be on the third pair.
Just like Vilardi was on the third line here and top line in Winnipeg.
I can see Kaliyev being the next guy to thrive elsewhere in another teams top six. They cant seem to find a place for him and can see him being a piece traded in the offseason to land a goalie if they dont see Portillo in the NHL next year.

ive said from early on that the best thing to happen for kaliyev would be to be traded. professionally and personally. arty is a natural scorer that has been forced into a defensive/checking role and only recently has been moved to a line where he has a chance to be more productive and further develop his natural talent. some of his useage and deployment has appeared punitive.
for me, kaliev is a great example of a popularity contest rather than a merit based playing time and deployment regimen being run by macclellan.

 

[Bandit]

Brock Faber would be leading the Kings defensemen in scoring. Just saying.

Nah. He’d be in the AHL.

 

[King'sPawn]

Maybe they wouldn't be in the playoff hunt at all without them tho right?

But Faber and Vilardi wouldn't be kept with the expectation to win now. Fiala and PLD were brought in for that purpose.

Sellers expect to fall in the standings as they rebuild. Buyers expect to go up in the standings, as they get the more immediately impactful players.

 

[LAKings88]

But Faber and Vilardi wouldn't be kept with the expectation to win now. Fiala and PLD were brought in for that purpose.

Sellers expect to fall in the standings as they rebuild. Buyers expect to go up in the standings, as they get the more immediately impactful players.

Guess we will see where things shake out.

 

[bouncesonly]

For the third straight year, the Kings are third in the division.

Doesn't look like Fiala and PLD have been the answer, either.

lol, come on....Vegas and Canucks are literally 1 and 2, in the LEAGUE.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Though Washingotn had the last laugh...

Elvis told Tom Wilson.. you aint nothin but a hound dog, cryin all the time

 

[Steve Zissou]

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

oh no, that looks f***ing awful. Feel for Leo, sheesh, that's just the most unfortunate way for that hit to go down

 

[kingsfan28]

I remember writing a long list this summer of Kings drafting and development showing that the drafting is fine but the development/deployment is absolute ass because they keep going elsewhere and having more success

Faber is more proof that they know how to draft and not what to do with what they've got.

They never got Faber in a kings uniform, he was only drafted and traded [for a very good player btw]. Never played a second for the Kings. You make it sound like they waived him like some of those other bums.

 

[chris kontos]

That hurt to watch. Best wishes for an easy, speedy recovery

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

They never got Faber in a kings uniform, he was only drafted and traded [for a very good player btw]. Never played a second for the Kings. You make it sound like they waived him like some of those other bums.

So you're saying he was drafted and was actually a good player when used correctly. That's exactly what my post was about.

Whether traded immediately, waived, traded later, whatever--the results are always the same. Hence, the drafting is fine--it's what happens after that's continually dog shit.

 

[kingsfan28]

So you're saying he was drafted and was actually a good player when used correctly. That's exactly what my post was about.

Whether traded immediately, waived, traded later, whatever--the results are always the same. Hence, the drafting is fine--it's what happens after that's continually dog shit.

Everyone knew Faber was going to be good. But, you got to give to get man, you know that. Minn wanted Faber, not Spence, who btw is turning out to pretty damn good . The trade is fine for both teams, and for once the Kings traded from a position of strength. Fiala has put up 101 points in a season and a half since the trade, which no other winger has done.

Faber will have a solid career, but so will Spence and Clarke.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Everyone knew Faber was going to be good. But, you got to give to get man, you know that. Minn wanted Faber, not Spence, who btw is turning out to pretty damn good . The trade is fine for both teams, and for once the Kings traded from a position of strength. Fiala has put up 101 points in a season and a half since the trade, which no other winger has done.

Faber will have a solid career, but so will Spence and Clarke.

Sure, I'm not even mad about that trade, but that wasn't even the point of my post.

I'm just saying he's more evidence the Kings drafting is very good, it's the development that sucks.

 

[kingsfan28]

Sure, I'm not even mad about that trade, but that wasn't even the point of my post.

I'm just saying he's more evidence the Kings drafting is very good, it's the development that sucks.

It's what happen when you hire the guys in your wedding party to run it and don't hold them accoutable. Murray and Emerson should've been gone years ago.

 

[KOPITARRULEZ11]

2 more pts for Gabe jets put on a clinic on Boston

 

[bland]

Nah. He’d be in the AHL.

The thing is we wouldnt have the same Faber here right now. He would not be a top pair dman playing half the game in all situations. Hed be on the third pair.
Just like Vilardi was on the third line here and top line in Winnipeg.
I can see Kaliyev being the next guy to thrive elsewhere in another teams top six. They cant seem to find a place for him and can see him being a piece traded in the offseason to land a goalie if they dont see Portillo in the NHL next year.

I think that the pessimism with skilled forwards is warranted, but they took very little time in getting Anderson into the league and Faber is just on a different level. He very likely, almost certainly, would never have seen AHL ice.

I get the sense here that a lot of folks commenting on Faber having a "solid career" have not watched this young man play. I mean, really watched him and not just seen a highlight or even watched a Minnesota game. This guy is next level good. Special good. His reads, initial positioning, stick work, mobility and judgement is of the highest level of defensemen. He is already, less than 40 games into his career, shutting down the oppositions best every night while chipping in offensively and starting to run the PP.

I can't wait for Clarke to get here, but he is most definitely in a tier below Faber. This is an incredibly rare player. You just don't trade players like him, especially for a scoring winger.