Around the league part 2

[ScoreZeGoals]

Reading the Oilers board, and someone said their bottom 6 has 1 point in 9 games, and it's an assist on an empty net goal. If true, holy crap

 

[ru4reals]

Oilers sucking is music to my ears. Hate that team and their fans. Keep sucking please.

 

[kingsfan28]

Damn, Vancouver dropped a 10 spot on the Sharks [ 10-1]. That more than the Rams scored last Sunday.

I'm kind of interested in it because it begs some questions--like, what's the potential financial value of a first round pick? Or of a 41-game suspension of a highly-thought-of prospect middle six center? How 'damaging' are those things to franchise value/image?

I see why Andlauer is pissed, not because those things exist, but because they were concealed--and Dorion obviously knew better.

Void the sale?

 

[kingsholygrail]

The Hockey Guy is calling this Sharks team possibly the worst he's ever seen. Hopefully someone loses to them before the Kings play them.

 

[Moses Doughty]

The Hockey Guy is calling this Sharks team possibly the worst he's ever seen. Hopefully someone loses to them before the Kings play them.

Looks like we've got a month and a half for SJ to a win game before that at least. Can't say THG is wrong, already at -35 goal differential. Even excluding last night that's a -26 in 9 games

 

[kovacro]

Sharks looking like an early 90's expansion team out there.

Might as well be playing back at the Cow Palace with the likes of Jarmo Myllys, Tom Pederson, Bob McGill, Craig Coxe, etc.

 

[Bandit]

Sharks looking like an early 90's expansion team out there.

Might as well be playing back at the Cow Palace with the likes of Jarmo Myllys, Tom Pederson, Bob McGill, Craig Coxe, etc.

They've got a ways to go to beat their single season record of 71 losses, which was in an 84 game schedule, but I think they might have a chance.

 

[ZJames]

They've got a ways to go to beat their single season record of 71 losses, which was in an 84 game schedule, but I think they might have a chance.

Just wait until they start to jettison their only two valuable players at the trade deadline (Couture, Hertl). Is there anyone else on that team besides those two that would be worth a draft pick?

 

[lumbergh]

Vancouver Canucks might be the pleasant surprise of the young season so far. They lead the league in goal differential. Anyone see that coming?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Just wait until they start to jettison their only two valuable players at the trade deadline (Couture, Hertl). Is there anyone else on that team besides those two that would be worth a draft pick?

Yeah a few, and UFas to boot, so they were thinking ahead--Hoffman, Duclair, Granlund. Maybe even Blackwood. But that D core...omg. Absolutely abysmal. They are in for a few rough years.

 

[Fishhead]

Vancouver Canucks might be the pleasant surprise of the young season so far. They lead the league in goal differential. Anyone see that coming?

I did not, they are playing well. They've been a lot better defensively than I thought they would be.

It does help to have played 3 games against teams that have been abysmal defensively to start the season, though. Their differential against teams with a winning record is +0, and that's only 3 games.
Regardless of their easier schedule, they've been solid in their own end.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Hughes with Hronek has been amazing for Quinn, best dman in the NHL this year thus far

 

[Fishhead]

Yeah a few, and UFas to boot, so they were thinking ahead--Hoffman, Duclair, Granlund. Maybe even Blackwood. But that D core...omg. Absolutely abysmal. They are in for a few rough years.

We saw it coming, but I don't think we saw this coming. They have some decent prospects in the system but nothing clearly top level.

Lots of top 3 picks coming for sure.

Hughes with Hronek has been amazing for Quinn, best dman in the NHL this year thus far

And probably the most underrated dman in the NHL. He's a victim of the time zone difference as much as Doughty was.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Just wait until they start to jettison their only two valuable players at the trade deadline (Couture, Hertl). Is there anyone else on that team besides those two that would be worth a draft pick?

Trade them Arvy for Hertl?

 

[johnjm22]

This is the most interesting the Sharks have been since Irbe was their goaltender.

 

[Fishhead]

Trade them Arvy for Hertl?

That would only work if Hertl was UFA next year, and he's got 6 years left or something.

This is the most interesting the Sharks have been since Irbe was their goaltender.

And Constantine was coach. I heard he just got suspended again, can't believe he coaches in the WHL. He's way too hard ass for young players.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Some good play by play breakdowns in here.

 

[ru4reals]

Some good play by play breakdowns in here.

Flames and Oilers sucking is even better than just the Oilers sucking. MuaHahaha. I'm loving this. LOL.

 

[johnjm22]

When Treliving made those moves and gave big contracts to Huberdeau/Kadri/Weeger people around here were praising him for what a good job he did.

 

[LeftKinger]

Need Vancouver humbled. Hot start getting to some fans heads.

 

[ru4reals]

Need Vancouver humbled. Hot start getting to some fans heads.

They're already the 2024 Cup Champs as I've heard. LOL.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

When Treliving made those moves and gave big contracts to Huberdeau/Kadri/Weeger people around here were praising him for what a good job he did.

I mean, Huberdeau was coming off a 100 point season, and Kadri had just been a pivotal player on a Cup winner. And Weegar had a lot of upside.

All good moves on paper.

 

[johnjm22]

Worst team of the cap era:
19/20 Red Wings. .275 P% (45 point pace). -122 goal differential (71gp)

23/24 Sharks Pace: .050 P% (8 points pace). -287 goal differential

 

[johnjm22]

I mean, Huberdeau was coming off a 100 point season, and Kadri had just been a pivotal player on a Cup winner. And Weegar had a lot of upside.

All good moves on paper.

I think it was pretty obvious even at the time that those were terrible moves.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

When Treliving made those moves and gave big contracts to Huberdeau/Kadri/Weeger people around here were praising him for what a good job he did.

A lot of people shared this sentiment


"I think to some degree I get it becasue he 'replaces" Johnny Hockey, but if you weren't good enough with Tkachuk and everyone having basically career years, why would you suddenly be good enough with Weegar and Huberdeau, who are choke artists themselves?"

Around the League Thread part V

We knew what we were getting instantly when Kopitar and Doughty made it to the team and exploded. None of these players are close to them. I think you need to be a bit realistic. I dont know what winning the cup has to do with the Kings not drafting generational players through their rebuild...

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