Around the league part 2

[The Butcher]

Vilardi, Kupari, and Iafallo all flying and producing for Winnipeg early on.

 

[kilowatt]

Vilardi, Kupari, and Iafallo all flying and producing for Winnipeg early on.

Was watching the game, Vilardi looks great on the top line. Kupari contributed to a goal from the fourth line. Iafallo looked pretty good, but he always looked just pretty good (but not quite good enough) at most times.

I know Dubois looks good too, but man, losing Vilardi was a punch in the nuts for me.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I generally agree that Fiala was a pointless trade at a low priority position, but it’s pretty ridiculous to claim Faber will have a bigger impact in Minnesota long term.

We have no idea how good Faber will be and for how long. He could be Matt Roy or Slava Voynov or even better. Anyone claiming they know for certain is selling you something.

 

[Reaper45]

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A lot of people on this list with no AHL experience. So much for “everyone will be copying Blake’s development strategies”

Wasn’t Cuylle the pick traded for Lias Andersson?

 

[bmr]

Vilardi, Kupari, and Iafallo all flying and producing for Winnipeg early on.

I truly believe that we gave up too much for PLD. Laferriere will minimize the loss of Iafallo, but at best IMHO Vilardi = PLD. I think people also underestimated how much Kupari contributed. The next 20 games or so will say a lot about where this team will end up at the end of the year.

 

[King'sPawn]

Vilardi, Kupari, and Iafallo all flying and producing for Winnipeg early on.

The frustrating thing is we can't even say that trading all those pieces "opened up the way for other players to step in". The cap hit of Faber, Vilardi, Kupari, and Iafallo is ~$9.7 million. Fiala and Dubois combined almost take up twice as much cap space with $16 million. It's the high cap space being eaten up that has actually caused a shortened roster.

Again, these moves are once again intended to "win now."

I'm sure Fiala will outscore Faber. And PLD will get two points or something tonight to lessen the blow, but the ultimate prices paid to win now don't match the return we can likely expect.

 

[kingsfan28]

I generally agree that Fiala was a pointless trade at a low priority position, but it’s pretty ridiculous to claim Faber will have a bigger impact in Minnesota long term.

We have no idea how good Faber will be and for how long. He could be Matt Roy or Slava Voynov or even better. Anyone claiming they know for certain is selling you something.

T he Fiala trade wasn't pointless at all for a team desperate for scoring, especially the left side. He brought us an instant game breaker which was nowhere to be seen in the org. I think he was coming off an 85 point season too, more points than all 3 guys combined on the left side had the previous year [ maybe ].

Faber going to be good for sure, but the way a few talk about him around makes it sound like he the second coming of Brian Leetch . Nobody knows. I don't really care what he does in Minn, he's not a King anymore and best of luck to him there.

 

[kingsfan28]

that's a lot of McDavids!

damn it man, you stole my line!

 

[bland]

I generally agree that Fiala was a pointless trade at a low priority position, but it’s pretty ridiculous to claim Faber will have a bigger impact in Minnesota long term.

We have no idea how good Faber will be and for how long. He could be Matt Roy or Slava Voynov or even better. Anyone claiming they know for certain is selling you something.

No, Faber is an extremely easy player to project. And he is already on par with Roy. The mind and skill set are there, just needs the expereience.

With a Faber you have your team's top shutdown defenseman. The Norstrom role, locked in early and for a long time. Most important shifts of the game, a cornerstone of your franchise, and the element every team will be looking for at every trade deadline. He is going to be that kind of player within a year or two at the most.

 

[kingsfan28]

wtf is with the golden knights stanley cup rings

is the designer Polly Pocket

Pretty sure I had a Inspector Gadget secret decoder ring just like that and when you opened it up , it had the secret energy pill [m&m] inside.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Kings had too many forwards and dealt AI, Kupari and Vilardi so younger players like Lewis could get a shot LOL.

Thank god Laffy has stepped up.

Still, if the Kings move those players they should be moving in Turcotte and Thomas also not just Laffy.

Move out Lizotte and Lewis.

 

[King'sPawn]

No, Faber is an extremely easy player to project. And he is already on par with Roy. The mind and skill set are there, just needs the expereience.

With a Faber you have your team's top shutdown defenseman. The Norstrom role, locked in early and for a long time. Most important shifts of the game, a cornerstone of your franchise, and the element every team will be looking for at every trade deadline. He is going to be that kind of player within a year or two at the most.

He also has an assist and a +2 while the team is down 4-3.

Of course, pointing out a high cost the Kings paid to get Fiala means that we suddenly think he's Brian Leetch now?

We can also pretend that everyone defending the trade is acting like Faber is a career AHLer and misrepresent their stance, too.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Foligno Vs Reaves was great. Too bad we don’t have players willing to stand up for each other like Marcus did for his teammate when Reaves leveled him.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

No, Faber is an extremely easy player to project. And he is already on par with Roy. The mind and skill set are there, just needs the expereience.

With a Faber you have your team's top shutdown defenseman. The Norstrom role, locked in early and for a long time. Most important shifts of the game, a cornerstone of your franchise, and the element every team will be looking for at every trade deadline. He is going to be that kind of player within a year or two at the most.

I understand he’s your son but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s less than 10 games into his NHL career. He’s not a Mcdavid tier prospect nor even a Doughty tier prospect and you need to stop talking about him as if he is.

Chances are Faber will be a very, very good player in this league. Will he be a more valuable player to the Wild than Fiala is to the Kings? That’s such a ridiculous, abstract question with so many different variables we won’t know for a long time.

T he Fiala trade wasn't pointless at all for a team desperate for scoring, especially the left side. He brought us an instant game breaker which was nowhere to be seen in the org. I think he was coming off an 85 point season too, more points than all 3 guys combined on the left side had the previous year [ maybe ].

Faber going to be good for sure, but the way a few talk about him around makes it sound like he the second coming of Brian Leetch . Nobody knows. I don't really care what he does in Minn, he's not a King anymore and best of luck to him there.

Fiala is an extremely talented offensive threat but ultimately a luxury for a real contender. The Kings were nowhere close to needing a player like him at the time they traded for him.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Vilardi, Kupari, and Iafallo all flying and producing for Winnipeg early on.

lol, Vilardi has 1 point in two games and it’s a secondary assist. Oooh, pass me the Kleenex.

 

[bland]

I understand he’s your son but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s less than 10 games into his NHL career. He’s not a Mcdavid tier prospect nor even a Doughty tier prospect and you need to stop talking about him as if he is.

Chances are Faber will be a very, very good player in this league. Will he be a more valuable player to the Wild than Fiala is to the Kings? That’s such a ridiculous, abstract question with so many different variables we won’t know for a long time.



Fiala is an extremely talented offensive threat but ultimately a luxury for a real contender. The Kings were nowhere close to needing a player like him at the time they traded for him.

See, that's the problem. You can't read and compensate for that with a stupid insult.

Never said he is going to be a star, I said he is going to be a franchise cornerstone. Understand the difference?

Watch the games. Faber has been outstanding today against the Leafs. They had a pregame video package showing highlights of his first game this year, then his highlights were the first thing they talked about in between periods. There is a reason for that, his play is a huge positive for his team and its easy to see. He created Rossi's first career goal by taking the puck to the net off a cycle.

He is as good as Roy right now in the 4th game of his career, but with much better breakouts. The Leafs are killing the Wild, but haven't done shit when Faber is on the ice and he is a +3.

Watch him play and you will see. Until then, keep your insults to yourself.

 

[Wildturkey12]

Matthews is on pace for 246 goals this season. Impressive

 

[The Butcher]

lol, Vilardi has 1 point in two games and it’s a secondary assist. Oooh, pass me the Kleenex.

Axl. You don't get on my nerves nearly as much as you do 99% of this board, in fact you often entertain me and give me a chuckle. For that, I say thanks. I'd actually like to meet you at a game one day and have a beer.

But this whole crusade to torch anyone who is the slightest bit critical about management or coaching is starting to wear thin. Please contribute something other than blasting other posters for their opinion and please remember the time where you completely dismissed the 2012 team halfway through the season, saying the season was over. I'm unsure if all of this trolling is an attempt to make up for that, and if it is, I'd understand but own it.

But please, for the love of God, have a take other than we are all morons who have no idea what we are talking about. There are people on this board that have a far greater understanding of the game than you and I.

PS the post wasn't even intended be critical of anything. I was just observing.

 

[kingsholygrail]

I generally agree that Fiala was a pointless trade at a low priority position, but it’s pretty ridiculous to claim Faber will have a bigger impact in Minnesota long term.

We have no idea how good Faber will be and for how long. He could be Matt Roy or Slava Voynov or even better. Anyone claiming they know for certain is selling you something.

Remember when people wouldn't shut up about Cernak? Don't hear about him much anymore.

 

[Steve Zissou]

 

[Steve Zissou]

Silky backhand...

 

[KingsHockey24]

Foligno Vs Reaves was great. Too bad we don’t have players willing to stand up for each other like Marcus did for his teammate when Reaves leveled him.

It literally happened a game ago.

 

[kilowatt]

Remember when people wouldn't shut up about Cernak? Don't hear about him much anymore.

What else is there to say? He’s averaged 19:00 per game for the past six years as a top four stalwart on one of the best teams in the league. There’s only so much you can say before you give up and realize how much Lombardi and crew f***ed up. Yannetti admitted it too. Cernak had 200 hits and 100 blocks last year. Wish we had that on our team. Wish we had Faber too.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Lumberjack Uni's!?

{ Belfast Giants }

 

[kingsholygrail]

What else is there to say? He’s averaged 19:00 per game for the past six years as a top four stalwart on one of the best teams in the league. There’s only so much you can say before you give up and realize how much Lombardi and crew f***ed up. Yannetti admitted it too. Cernak had 200 hits and 100 blocks last year. Wish we had that on our team. Wish we had Faber too.

Doesn't sound like you've given up. lol