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KingsFan7824 said:
It's just funny how much Florida has that you wouldn't want, and here they are. Nobody would want the coach, not even Panther fans. Nobody wants an aging $10m goalie, who had basically become a meme. They had a cap crunch, and gave up a ton of future, last year, when they didn't do anything. 35 year old Marc Staal, now 36, was an answer to a question for the Panthers in 2022, now 2023. Brandon Montour is your best defenseman? That's a potential Cup worthy defense?
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lumbergh said:
This postseason just goes to show you that nobody knows shit about how to win in the playoffs.
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It seems I/we re-learn the lessons every post season. e.g. what works in regular season may not work in the playoffs (and visa versa) ie the DL mantra... also luck/timing (e.g. getting in a groove at the right time, having a hot goalie) have disproportionate impact in the playoffs. Still, Im not sure how explain Florida..
 
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Axl Rhoadz said:
Can you imagine how torn our group would be right now if that was our team?? Incessantly ripping them for not building the team the right way, yet climaxing daily over the success it's producing. Man, that would be rough.
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...but it's not the Kings, and Florida is a much better constructed team than what the Kings had going into the playoffs. For one thing they have an actual #1 goaltender.

This BS of just get in and anything can happen, is just that, BS.

...and no, I don't care about muh 100 points vs 92 points. Florida plays in a divison with Boston, Tampa Bay, and Toronto. The Kings play in the Pathetic Division.
 
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KINGS17 said:
...but it's not the Kings, and Florida is a much better constructed team than what the Kings had going into the playoffs. For one thing they have an actual #1 goaltender.

This BS of just get in and anything can happen, is just that, BS.

...and no, I don't care about muh 100 points vs 92 points. Florida plays in a divison with Boston, Tampa Bay, and Toronto. The Kings play in the Pathetic Division.
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I'll let you guess which one is Bobrovsky this regular season:

Record Sv% GAA
1. 37-11-11 0.919 2.37
2. 24-6-3 0.903 2.64
3. 24-20-3 0.901 3.07
4. 21-11-1 0.903 2.48
5. 16-7-1 0.915 2.50
6. 9-8-3 0.901 3.18

These are the numbers for the four starting goaltenders left in the playoffs plus Pheonix Copley and Florida's backup Spencer Knight. Only one of them screams "actual #1 goaltender", and hint hint, it's not Bobrovsky.

Does Florida really have an actual #1, or is it that we think whoever gets hot during the playoffs is an actual #1 goaltender?
 
KINGS17 said:
...but it's not the Kings, and Florida is a much better constructed team than what the Kings had going into the playoffs. For one thing they have an actual #1 goaltender.

This BS of just get in and anything can happen, is just that, BS.

...and no, I don't care about muh 100 points vs 92 points. Florida plays in a divison with Boston, Tampa Bay, and Toronto. The Kings play in the Pathetic Division.
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I'm curious why you think that Florida is a much better constructed team.
 
Adiós Kyle, you and your potty mouth!

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lumbergh said:
I'll let you guess which one is Bobrovsky this regular season:

Record Sv% GAA
1. 37-11-11 0.919 2.37
2. 24-6-3 0.903 2.64
3. 24-20-3 0.901 3.07
4. 21-11-1 0.903 2.48
5. 16-7-1 0.915 2.50
6. 9-8-3 0.901 3.18

These are the numbers for the four starting goaltenders left in the playoffs plus Pheonix Copley and Florida's backup Spencer Knight. Only one of them screams "actual #1 goaltender", and hint hint, it's not Bobrovsky.

Does Florida really have an actual #1, or is it that we think whoever gets hot during the playoffs is an actual #1 goaltender?
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I don't need to guess at which one is Bob. Bob has a track record of sometimes turning it on and carrying a team a long way. He nearly singlehandedly put Columbus in the playoffs a few years back.

The point is while he is inconsistent, when he is on, he can be very tough to beat. What has Pheonix Copley ever accomplished at the NHL-level that he was allowed to finish until the end? A: Zero.

BLuc didn't have enough faith in him as a horse to ride him to the finish line, and so now they don't know what they have for goaltending in a pressure situation.

How is Florida better constructed? Well, they aren't relying on high-mileage players to play 25-30 minutes a game to carry their team. Florida has a Hart Trophy candidate in Tkachuk that is well supported by supplemental scoring throughout most of the roster.

Florida has a go-to checking center in Staal who knows his role and does it well. The Kings have Danault for that role but are not playing to his strengths. He is a square peg that is being asked to plug into a round hole as a 2C.

Florida actually has defensemen that are capable of playing on the left side without getting owned by opposing forwards.

Is that enough for now? ...or are you going to try to fool yourself into believing that because the Kings had more points than Florida did during the regular season that the Kings could hang with Florida in a playoff series?
 
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Lets not forget FLA won presidents trophy in 21-22... 122 points. They had King style problems in goal this year.
 
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lumbergh said:
I'm curious why you think that Florida is a much better constructed team.
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They have Bennet, Tkachuk, Gudas and others that can play physically - thats something the Kings lack in spades... seems to be paying off for them.
 
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bland said:
Florida underacheived all year and saw a culture changing deal take a while to bear fruit. The quality of play now isn't the surprise, the first half of the regular season was the shocker.
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Florida being bad this season was a surprise. Acting like this team is garbage and they are just on a fluke run because of where they finished in the standings is some of the same genius level type of thinking that is applied to the 2012 Kings.

I'm loving this Tkachuk run. If you hate him or Brady, it probably means you are a fan of Blake's roster construction. They both make the game more exciting and interesting.

109 points and 123 PIMs in 2023. What a beauty. If Doughty wasn't a King, 90% of this board would be trashing Doughty for how that whole rivalry played out.
 
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BigKing said:
Florida being bad this season was a surprise. Acting like this team is garbage and they are just on a fluke run because of where they finished in the standings is some of the same genius level type of thinking that is applied to the 2012 Kings.

I'm loving this Tkachuk run. If you hate him or Brady, it probably means you are a fan of Blake's roster construction. They both make the game more exciting and interesting.

109 points and 123 PIMs in 2023. What a beauty. If Doughty wasn't a King, 90% of this board would be trashing Doughty for how that whole rivalry played out.
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They were ousted early last year and the prevailing opinion seemed to be that they weren't "for real" when they started soooo slowly. Its a quality team with a lot of very good players. No fluke at all, just some folks who seem to think their high end play is the oulier and the low end the norm.
 
BigKing said:
Florida being bad this season was a surprise. Acting like this team is garbage and they are just on a fluke run because of where they finished in the standings is some of the same genius level type of thinking that is applied to the 2012 Kings.

I'm loving this Tkachuk run. If you hate him or Brady, it probably means you are a fan of Blake's roster construction. They both make the game more exciting and interesting.

109 points and 123 PIMs in 2023. What a beauty. If Doughty wasn't a King, 90% of this board would be trashing Doughty for how that whole rivalry played out.
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I knew I'd see this take somewhere and I totally disagree.

This version of Tkachuk is actually playing like his reputation of him and his dad, letting his play on the ice do the talking

Prior to this year, he was just running around yapping and doing dumb shit, and his playoff rep RIGHTFULLY took a beating

He's absolutely lethal right now, an actually deadly hockey player who will play with grit. Prior to this year, he was just a caricature of himself. Now he's finally grown into it appropriately.
 
Very interesting read on ESPN. Leaf's fire Dubas and ESPN is reporting that Quenneville has requested a meeting with Bettman which will take place after the season is over. Going to be interesting to see if Bettman allows Quenneville back to the NHL to coach again.
 
Random (should be rhetorical) question: would you rather have 4 years of Marchment at 4.5 or 5 years of Moore at 4.2.
 
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