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I see 5th place for Kings in that division. Yes that top four is brutal, but the bottom teams are just as much in the opposite direction. Kings will get a lot of points playing Ducks/SJ/AZ. I still see the same 8-13th overall finish for this team as i did before the potential 2021 division change-up. But I also believe a bit in the late season run we had and think this team is much better than the bottom four overall finishes of the last two years.
SettlementRichie10
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GMGM has no long term plan or vision. Just sign or trade for whatever good players he can currently get and figure out the rest later. This is the same man who couldn’t put a winning team around prime Ovechkin for how many years?
In regards to the Kings, I honestly don’t care where we finish. I’d love another top five pick. However, there’s also a lot of value in some youngsters making the jump this year and actually propelling the Kings into the black hole.
I’m looking at 21/22 as similar 08/09. Make some kind of playoff push with young players taking the reins. 22/23 is likely the first season I legitimately have playoff expectations.
In regards to the Kings, I honestly don’t care where we finish. I’d love another top five pick. However, there’s also a lot of value in some youngsters making the jump this year and actually propelling the Kings into the black hole.
I’m looking at 21/22 as similar 08/09. Make some kind of playoff push with young players taking the reins. 22/23 is likely the first season I legitimately have playoff expectations.
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All that matters for the Kings is that the lineup gets younger and the team gets better. It doesn't have to be significant. I think that started in earnest end of last season. As long as the underlying numbers don't show monstrous regressions (they were actually quite good other than not being able to score and having god awful special teams for most of the season), that's a step forward, even if it means another top 5 pick (C'mon lotto gods! Bless us again). A point per game (50+) in the standings would be nice to see in a youth development season.
Lt Dan
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No one has any $$
There is a rumor than he wanted to sign with VCR , and they have been trying to free up cap space.
Until now, there has been zero pressure for anyone to do anything
So y’all is saying Kempe, Frk, Wagner, Moore, Amadio, Lizotte... all gonna have career years and surprise us with 15 to 20-goal seasons? Sniffing that playoff jock-strap ...
Kempe scored 16 goals three years ago ...
Frk had 11 with the Wings ... three years ago ... real good AHL player.
Moore and Amadio with their 6 annual goals ... powerhouse!!!
We will be fighting the Wings, Devils, Ducks for top lottery odds for sure.
2021 season is a teaching and learning season for the kids. No more, no less.
Dripping sarcasm was deliberate.
Kempe scored 16 goals three years ago ...
Frk had 11 with the Wings ... three years ago ... real good AHL player.
Moore and Amadio with their 6 annual goals ... powerhouse!!!
We will be fighting the Wings, Devils, Ducks for top lottery odds for sure.
2021 season is a teaching and learning season for the kids. No more, no less.
Dripping sarcasm was deliberate.
Raccoon Jesus
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Kempe doesn't need to produce like a madman, if he's scoring at a near 40 point pace like he was last year, he's a great utility middle sixer with some upside...
Frk was scoring at a nearly 30g pace with another addition you conveniently left out, Vilardi...
The rest you listed are literally bottom sixers or scratches and they, as has been the case for the last few years of Kings hockey, were a top-tier bottom six in terms of production and metrics.
The change needs to come at the top--Doughty needs to be Doughty again, Kopitar needs to keep being Kopitar, Vilardi needs to grow and overtake Carter, and the youth needs to start taking steps. There's historically been a huge gap behind the Kopitar line, which was filled by Vilardi and no surprise we had almost a perfect record with him in the lineup. Also, the "Voynov hole" was suddenly filled by Roy, HM to Walker, to the extent that even Doughty's worst season saw those guys elevate.
Blake Lizotte came out of nowhere to score at a 30pt pace from mostly the bottom six last year. Is it really that radical to expect a bunch of teenagers/barely 20-year-old kids to take a step? Or an injection of, say, Fagemo?
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I don't think it is so much about how many points each of these players need to produce in order for us to be successful. It is more about having these players play the team system like clockwork. We started to see the team do that during the second half of the season and a buy-in from the squad. We need to keep that up. The Kings didn't win cups because of superstars. We won because we played Sutter's system almost flawlessly for a few years (until we didn't).
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I agree with that too, but production matters as well...I'm just pointing out we're still complaining about the wrong people with the wrong talking points AND the wrong roles.
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I have mixed feelings about this,tbh. But the Hockey fan in me is definitely excited.
Just to expand on what others have said, most figured the middle class of free agents would get squeezed out with the flat cap so Hoffman still being unsigned isn't too surprising.
Only nine teams currently have more than 4 million of cap space, and some are on a budget (NJD/OTT/FLO/DET) or have their own unsigned RFAs to worry about (CLB/CHI). Nashville would make some sense, but perhaps they don't want to make a move until they see what Tampa does. Seems doubtful Hoffman would be welcomed back to Ottawa after his messy exit and I'm not sure if Florida's new management already decided to move on from him. Not sure if the Kings would be interested.
If Hoffman wants the security of a multiyear deal, that adds another variable with expansion draft protection. As mentioned, it seemed like Hoffman had mutual interest with a capped out team but moving salaries right now is pretty tough.
Deadlines spur action, so once the league sets a training camp date you'll start to see more of the remaining RFAs/UFAs sign along with a few trades to get cap compliant.
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no reason to be surprised, the rich will always find a way to the front of the line, same as politicians
guarantee they could all be doing their work from home but they'll all be vaccinated if they haven't been already
All great points and there is wisdom in them, however the fact remains that we jettisoned our mid/late-20s veterans that were good for 20+ goals in Pearson and Tofolli and have yet to bring up replacements from which we can reasonable expect results. We can project their development, but we are still talking a handful of NHL games between them.
Not just Vilardi, but Anderson, Björnfot, JAD ... all great prospects with a handful of games.
Fagemo may be the sleeper, you are on to something there.
The expanded roster of 26 and a taxi squad may be a blessing for us. Let us keep our OHL kids and rotate them.
Well, the argument has been made that sports kind of lend to normalcy, and a good chunk of people want it back. If they are going to play, with all the travel and exposure you aren't going to get much higher risk than that outside of a hospital. Through that lens it makes sense.
If one was of the opinion that sports are expendable right now, they would rightfully be appalled. I'm kind of ambivalent about it, but if they are gonna play they definitely need the vaccine so they don't spread it.
Raccoon Jesus
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let's not pretend sports didn't already get preferential treatment with testing. Vaccines are a no brainer.
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Ziggy Stardust
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He should've mentioned that in his first tweet. Just more irresponsible journalism in an attempt to get a scoop.
KINGS17
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Seriously, f these so called "journalists" and their supposedly sacred duty to just report the facts.
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This reminds me when there was a really bad flu season like five years ago and flu vaccine was in short supply. I guess in Canada you have to go to a clinic to get a shot and there was a long waiting list, so the Calgary Flames set up their own private clinic so they could buy the vaccine and administer it to the team and personnel. People in Alberta threw a fit about it.
Edit: should have read further down.
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