Around the League 45: The Stanley Cup is in God's Waiting Room

[Chrispy]

The Phoenix Atlanteans?

Found the mascot:

 

[AD Skinner]

Sea lions, huh? We have something like that on land, too. We call them land sea lions

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Phoenix

One name, like Cher

 

[The Jerk Store]

Phoenix

One name, like Cher

Or a physical gesture, similar to whatever Prince evolved into.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Sea lions, huh? We have something like that on land, too. We call them land sea lions

Do you tame them?

 

[HisIceness]

The first goal in Utah history is an own goal

That franchise is cursed. Owner gonna find out real quick he f***ed up.

 

[DaveG]

The first goal in Utah history is an own goal

That franchise is cursed. Owner gonna find out real quick he f***ed up.

wait Nic Wallin is still playing?

 

[bleedgreen]

I have no idea why so many people are rooting against Utah. Phoenix was a mess the whole time. It was overdue to put that mess out of its misery. Utah is a perfectly good place to put a team. Is this a north/south thing? Would some people be happier if they had stayed more southern?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

The first goal in Utah history is an own goal

That franchise is cursed. Owner gonna find out real quick he f***ed up.

Maybe, but look how badly Muruelo f***ed up and sold the franchise for $1.2B after buying it 4 years prior for $425M.

 

[MinJaBen]

Maybe, but look how badly Muruelo f***ed up and sold the franchise for $1.2B after buying it 4 years prior for $425M.

I need to f*** up like he did.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Maybe, but look how badly Muruelo f***ed up and sold the franchise for $1.2B after buying it 4 years prior for $425M.

Sports franchise game has been on a roll.

With the astronomical increase in values over the last decade I wonder if/when the music is going to stop and the latest owner loses.

 

[MinJaBen]

Sports franchise game has been on a roll.

With the astronomical increase in values over the last decade I wonder if/when the music is going to stop and the latest owner loses.

When society becomes so good that tribal escapism is no longer profitable, or when society collapses and the masses can no longer afford their opioid hit.

As we are stuck in that mushy middle....I'm guessing not in our lifetimes.

 

[CandyCanes]

Joining former & future Canes… Kuzy, Nikishin, and Kol.

 

[bleedgreen]

Joining former & future Canes… Kuzy, Nikishin, and Kol.

I feel like you can’t swing a dead cat in Russia without hitting a Canes former player or prospect.

 

[HisIceness]

I have no idea why so many people are rooting against Utah. Phoenix was a mess the whole time. It was overdue to put that mess out of its misery. Utah is a perfectly good place to put a team. Is this a north/south thing? Would some people be happier if they had stayed more southern?

Well my post was more in amusement of the situation, the ole "take the team out of Phoenix but the you can't take the Phoenix out" saying.

That said, I've expressed my doubts about Utah as an NHL market. The owner talks a good game and him being the NBA owner will help but I think he's going to find out eventually that there just isn't enough sports dollars to support overlapping leagues playing 80 combined home games in a metro that is about the same size as Raleigh. To me it'd be like if Dundon moved the Hornets to Raleigh while keeping the Hurricanes, or vice-versa, we all know that would be a disaster.

Since the NHL is the most gate-driven league and the tickets aren't cheap, they can't afford to go through a spell like the Hurricanes did 2009-2018.

Maybe, but look how badly Muruelo f***ed up and sold the franchise for $1.2B after buying it 4 years prior for $425M.

If only we were so lucky to f*** up into $1.2B Maybe in our next life

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Joining former & future Canes… Kuzy, Nikishin, and Kol.

How bad do you have to be defensively/how toxic must your reputation be that a 50+ point defenseman can't find any NHL suitors?

 

[HisIceness]

Joining former & future Canes… Kuzy, Nikishin, and Kol.

Well as mentioned elsewhere, I appreciate his 21-22 season but I am happy to be parting ways here. Time to see the future of Hurricanes defensemen.

 

[Lempo]

Joining former & future Canes… Kuzy, Nikishin, and Kol.

It's like a comedy VHS cover from the 80's.

I need to f*** up like he did.

Maybe it's like when you have to be actually a very good musician to able to play humorously bad.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I have no idea why so many people are rooting against Utah. Phoenix was a mess the whole time. It was overdue to put that mess out of its misery. Utah is a perfectly good place to put a team. Is this a north/south thing? Would some people be happier if they had stayed more southern?

The blowback against Utah is a lot less than what Canes and Avs experienced. This is more on the Atlanta scale of harshness, which is to say it’ll probably be forgotten soon.

 

[HisIceness]

It's like a comedy VHS cover from the 80's.


Maybe it's like when you have to be actually a very good musician to able to play humorously bad.

Too bad for these guys, they were never actually any good

 

[Svechhammer]

I mean not a bad trade, TDA and Kuzy for the rights to Nikishin

 

[Lempo]

Too bad for these guys, they were never actually any good

My point exactly.

 

[bleedgreen]

Well my post was more in amusement of the situation, the ole "take the team out of Phoenix but the you can't take the Phoenix out" saying.

That said, I've expressed my doubts about Utah as an NHL market. The owner talks a good game and him being the NBA owner will help but I think he's going to find out eventually that there just isn't enough sports dollars to support overlapping leagues playing 80 combined home games in a metro that is about the same size as Raleigh. To me it'd be like if Dundon moved the Hornets to Raleigh while keeping the Hurricanes, or vice-versa, we all know that would be a disaster.

Since the NHL is the most gate-driven league and the tickets aren't cheap, they can't afford to go through a spell like the Hurricanes did 2009-2018.



If only we were so lucky to f*** up into $1.2B Maybe in our next life

Yeah sorry if it sounded like I directed that at you more than I meant, your post echoed a lot of what I’ve heard not only here but on the main board. I do think it’s a good town for hockey and I tend to root for smaller/medium sized markets. I like the Avs having a more natural rival so I’m good with it. At this point I’d rather see relocation than expansion if it makes sense, such as this.

It might fail but I don’t think it’s any more likely than some other markets. Market failure to me usually comes way more from ownership than the market. If your owner invests and hires people good at their jobs you tend to get a good product which tends to bring fans.

 

[DaveG]

How bad do you have to be defensively/how toxic must your reputation be that a 50+ point defenseman can't find any NHL suitors?

thing is you could say the same for Tyson Barrie and John Klingberg. That style of OFD that ranges from "probably should be protected" to "flat out BAD" in their own end is being phased out recently.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

thing is you could say the same for Tyson Barrie and John Klingberg. That style of OFD that ranges from "probably should be protected" to "flat out BAD" in their own end is being phased out recently.

Well, I can't speak on Barrie, but I thought the recurring injury problem was the reason Klingberg no longer had any suitors