raynman
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One of my most controversial takes is that I love the wave. So dumb but so fun. Listening to it and seeing it on tv with all the woos is fantastic.
Around the League 36-But Who's Counting...
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And here I thought it was because Russia was caught in a nation-wide, Russian Olympic committee supported doping/steroid scandal where Russian athletes were not allowed to participate as part of their own country?
DaveG
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I mean, I get that stance, but at the same time, this discussion started because of a hockey story and moved organically to a reasonable debate. No insults were thrown, no wild tangents were had.
Are we just supposed to ignore discussing every hockey story that has political undertones? Because that's becoming more and more common, given the world today.
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I ended up doing it. weird thing is I legitimately don't have a problem with political discussion most of the time.
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Well, in non-political Around the League news, the Florida/Toronto game was horribly officiated, and it apparently stemmed from a long-standing feud between Paul Maurice and Francios St. Laurent
St. Laurent was the official that was caught laughing/joking when Brian Little broke his vertebrate, which set Maurice off. And eventually led to St. Laurent kicking Maurice out of the game.
Makes me wonder if ol' RBA might have a few unhappy referees looking to make calls against his team.
St. Laurent was the official that was caught laughing/joking when Brian Little broke his vertebrate, which set Maurice off. And eventually led to St. Laurent kicking Maurice out of the game.
Makes me wonder if ol' RBA might have a few unhappy referees looking to make calls against his team.
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I do wonder if any of us, in our daily jobs, were told "hey on Tuesday you have to wear x because we're celebrating x that day"...how would we respond? July 4th they tell you you MUST wear red, white, & blue? It's military appreciate day so wear some camo, or clothing advertising your favorite military branch. Tomorrow you wear a rainbow shirt for inclusion day. We're celebrating all our neighbors who celebrate religion X, wear something to show your support of X
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f*** NHL refs. Like all of them except Wes Mcauley.
Most of them are power tripping pieces of shit, who can absolutely wreck a game for a team, and do so intentionally on a regular basis. Most are also probably jealous they weren't good enough to play.
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Yes, I'm sure there's at least 1 ref (probably more) that either doesn't like Rod, and or a certain Carolina player.
Since humans are flawed creatures, and aren't immune to being spiteful, petty, etc., it's hardly a surprise the refs in a professional sports league would be the same way. Give humans power and authority, and at least a certain amount of them will abuse it.
What's really bad about the officiating in the NHL is the seemingly lack of accountability for the bad refs. Seems like a good ole boys club, and plus the NHL would admit they have a problem with officiating if they actually had accountability. Can't have that admission.
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Of course, it's all about the loss ratio as a percent of the overall lending portfolio....they better have a whole bunch of successes to offset the big loss here. Re: Kane, there were a bunch of creditors involved, and I believe the lead creditor litigating was Centennial Bank with Suresports also involved. Messy business, both Kane's and this one (with murder involved, etc).
Lempo
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I don't know about you guys but I have found out that my preferred way of rebellling against unpleasant assignments (when they such be) is by absurdly overdoing it.
That rainbow shirt will be worn, and then some. I can't find the exact pic to make it justice, but...
CanesUltimate11
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If someone wants to pay me 6mil a year and 3 or 4 times out of 41 I have to wear something supporting a cause (that is a worthwhile cause)? I mean, that ain't that bad.
Plus, working in the entertainment business is a little bit different then most 9-5's.
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Staying away from politics, I think what's amiss here is the assumption that companies (or teams) are doing things like this for political or altruistic reasons. They usually aren't. They do things like this to gain publicity and grow revenue.
A Fortune 500 company I worked for required every employee to go through diversity training. A lot of people groaned, some complained, etc... The people teaching the training came right out and said at the beginning that the LGBT community is often a wealthier set of the population growing in more prominent roles as time goes on. NET: "we want that demographic as a customer and we want all of you to understand this."
I'm sure the NHL is the same way when it comes to pride night, police night, college night, military night, etc... it's goal to be "inclusive" is to get more fans to watch the game. Hockey, more than any other major US sport, is so much better live than on TV. There's so little downtime compared to MLB and NFL, and unlike the NBA, teams care about the regular season. There's so much more to see live that you don't see in replays (and there aren't as many replays like the NFL or MLB). Getting more fans of different demographics to come to a game is the goal, in hopes that they enjoy it so much, they'll come back again and again.
A Fortune 500 company I worked for required every employee to go through diversity training. A lot of people groaned, some complained, etc... The people teaching the training came right out and said at the beginning that the LGBT community is often a wealthier set of the population growing in more prominent roles as time goes on. NET: "we want that demographic as a customer and we want all of you to understand this."
I'm sure the NHL is the same way when it comes to pride night, police night, college night, military night, etc... it's goal to be "inclusive" is to get more fans to watch the game. Hockey, more than any other major US sport, is so much better live than on TV. There's so little downtime compared to MLB and NFL, and unlike the NBA, teams care about the regular season. There's so much more to see live that you don't see in replays (and there aren't as many replays like the NFL or MLB). Getting more fans of different demographics to come to a game is the goal, in hopes that they enjoy it so much, they'll come back again and again.
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CanesUltimate11
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Well as long as it's not a cause that supports outright bigotry or hatred I may not care that much.
Also, was it understood as part of my employment that the organization had these sort of events? And participation was likely to be expected? Or was it sprung on me unexpectedly?
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I cry to myself, wiping my tears with the $6 million dollars they're paying me to play a game.
Without getting into the politics of it all, Ivan Provorov is probably a really good buy-low candidate, although I'm not sure the timing and fit work out. Talent wise I bet he'd look damn good in the sightless eye. He's signed for 2 more years after this one at $6.75M. I could envision some sort of deal where Philly gets Skjei and we get Provorov to extend the contract clock by 2 years. The downsides are Ivan is paid a fair chunk more and he hasn't been as good as Skjei lately. Provorov being a Russian would fit in well with Svech and Kochetkov.
I don't think it will happen, but I could envision this possibility, particularly if Philly retains like $1M.
I don't think it will happen, but I could envision this possibility, particularly if Philly retains like $1M.
I want this to happen simply because of what happened last night. Then I’ll have to search for that former mascot who got bent over … everything … and I’ll laugh and be satisfied.
doesn't St. Laurent live in or near Raleigh? and Mo obviously did his time here. what i'm saying is, they both no doubt know of multiple bojangles locations so this should have been settled some time ago.
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A couple of comments on this.
- Provorov has never been as good as Skjei has been for the last 1+ seasons. Whether Skjei can keep that up or not, you likely know better than I do.
- Every time it looks like he might have been from counting stats, what you're seeing is a combination of a shooting heater where he turned into Prime Shea Weber from the point and/or a period in which he wasn't the best player on his pairing. In 2017-18, this was Shayne Gostisbehere outplaying him. In 2019-20, it was Matt Niskanen.
To be clear, Provorov was good at various points. There have just never been any signs in the NHL that he could match the hype.
- Most of us believe the Flyers will rebuild only when they actually do, but a 29yo Skater is too old for a primary return here. They're not ready to get older. They're definitely not ready to get older AND retain. It's a bad match of assets, value completely aside.
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Pass...I'd rather keep Skjei, he's better and cheaper
LakeLivin
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I can't see the Borg trading Skjei unless they know they can't reach an agreement with him on the next contract. Dundon (or maybe it was Waddell) just recently said in an interview that they'd like to re-sign him and Pesce to long term contracts (not in those words, but the meaning was clear).
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Dundon and Waddell's definition of long term might be different than what a player thinks is long term, especially to players who will be on the wrong of 30 for most of their extension. It's just like the Braves front office to me, both franchises are not going to pay most of their free agents market value once they get past a certain age. I think two of Skjei, Pesce and Slavin won't be here once their contracts run out. They will either promote from within or sign/trade for a distressed asset.
We can probably get away with only re-signing one of Pesce/Skjei. We'd hope that one of our D prospects will step into a top 4 role. Consider Morrow, Nikishin, Heimosalmi, and Forsmark. If none of those turn out to be a top 4 D, we don't deserve to be a contender for too long.
If no one pans out as a top 4, we have to overpay some players to keep a top 4 together or get really creative.
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