If true, he’s a monster. If true, so are all the pieces of shit he told in the locker room that did nothing but retell the story to their buddies. A lot of people have potential issues if this starts to come out more.
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DaveG
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Majority of the time I'd be with you on something like that. After the Abby stuff that was basically publicly confirmed not sure I don't trust this one though.
TDA was a choir boy LY compared to what is coming out re: Cole
LakeLivin
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I specifically used the term "somewhat". Of course Abby is an adult and responsible for her actions. But if you think that the same "grooming tactics" that some scumbag might use on a teenager won't work on some young adults, I don't think you're being realistic. Doesn't totally excuse Abby's behavior, but I see a difference between someone who is open to an extracurricular affair and someone who is targeted and pursued by someone who is skilled at "seduction" (or "grooming", dependant on whether aimed at an adult or a minor). You may not distinguish between the two cases, and if so, we'll just have to agree to disagree on the matter.
As an aside, I'm glad that most here are qualifying with the phrase "if true". In this day and age too many are too quick to convict at the drop of a hat. Having said that, if true . . .
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Correct me if I’m wrong but all we’re going off of right now is some random Twitter account with no others posts or ways of verification. You or I or any other random dude could post that just based off of the publicity from the Abby stuff. I wouldn’t be surprised after the Abby stuff but until I see something a bit more concrete, not some random anonymous twitter post, I’m not gonna jump to conclusions.
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Glad to see the NHL is taking this seriously currently
That’s the thing. After the Cole-Abby thing, I’d assume the Coles are headed for divorce proceedings. What better way ….
It’s very healthy to take things from Twitter with a grain of salt. Proof? Take him to the gallows. Until then…qualify with “if true….”
Anton Dubinchuk
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Forgive me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Abby’s fiancé’s tweets/instagram/whatever imply that this wasn’t actually the first/only incident wrt Abby?
If so, probably more reason to think that this is just a totally different thing. One thing if it’s what you’re saying, another thing if it’s serial on Abby’s end as well.
Idk - let’s just wait for more stuff to come out.
LakeLivin
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I don't recall that, but that doesn't mean anything, I could have missed it. Note that I'm not suggesting any particular narrative, just putting a possibility out there in light of the recent developments. I agree that it's all speculation at this point.
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Good.
Never thought TDA would look like the choirboy that we signed last year, so that's an interesting plot twist.
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Yeah, there were also credible rumblings that she was bonking Svech and perhaps other players as well. We'll never know all of it, nor should we, but I don't think it's reasonable to play her as a victim of grooming and manipulation here. I think she was just horny and stupid, and Cole approaching her provided an outlet.
Nikishin Go Boom
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Gauthier waived by the Rangers. Now that the Rangers only have 1 4th line now, no room for Gauthier.
Leivo and McKeown on waivers too.
Mahura from Anaheim would be a good LHD grab for us as a 8th D (if we could trade Bear). Unfortunately Mahura will clear waivers before that becomes an option.
Leivo and McKeown on waivers too.
Mahura from Anaheim would be a good LHD grab for us as a 8th D (if we could trade Bear). Unfortunately Mahura will clear waivers before that becomes an option.
Anton Dubinchuk
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That Gauthier for Keane trade really knocked the socks off of both markets, eh?
Nikishin Go Boom
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Keane has a low 3 points in 17 games in the KHL. Superb trade for both, i agree.
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So with word breaking over the weekend that the Habs tried to trade KK to us for Jarvis, which on its own head is hilariously bad, the thing that cracks me up the most is that there are still people in the media saying that the Canes made a retaliatory offer sheet and that the Habs still did well by doing what they did, and this showed that KK was not in their long term plan.
Bitch, they tried to have us trade Jarvis for him, that's the kind of offer that makes people walk away, so yeah, they either seriously overvalued KK or were pricing him prohibitively high. That offer sheet completely f***ed their plans, and its still tasty to this day. And that $4.8m AAV is going to look good this year, and stupidly cheap once the cap goes up.
Bitch, they tried to have us trade Jarvis for him, that's the kind of offer that makes people walk away, so yeah, they either seriously overvalued KK or were pricing him prohibitively high. That offer sheet completely f***ed their plans, and its still tasty to this day. And that $4.8m AAV is going to look good this year, and stupidly cheap once the cap goes up.
Nikishin Go Boom
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the article said a Lebrun interview with Waddell was coming out last Saturday on the Athletic. I havent seen it show up yet.
Serious question....does a suspended players salary count against the cap during suspension?
I'm not sure what a "credible rumbling" is. I did hear unsubstantiated rumors about Abby and Svech and there was the one photo with his arm around her shoulder, but I thought it was all just rank speculation.
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And what of it if she was having relations with Svech? Outside of the fact she was engaged, I really just don't see the scandal that people were trying to make it out to be. Every company I've ever worked for has had co-workers who met on the job and eventually got married, and as long as it didn't impact their work, nobody gave a shit and were actively happy for them.
Anton Dubinchuk
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The point I was trying to make is that if it's true that she did, it's probably not appropriate framing of her "relationship" with Ian Cole to speculate that she was "groomed" in a similar way, when we have proof of concept elsewhere that it doesn't take a seducer to screw up her engagement.
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