Around the League 36-But Who's Counting...

[Nikishin Go Boom]

How does that work? I thought I understood the structure of qualifying offers but it would appear I’m wrong. The table below is from the nhl themselves.

Player's Salary	Qualifying Offer
$660,000 or less	No less than 110% of player's salary
$660,001 -$952,380	105% of player's salary
$952,381-$999,999	$1 million in salary
$1 million or more	100% of player's salary

• The qualifying offer is calculated from the players base salary (NHL salary minus signing bonus), and at minimum must meet the seasons minimum salary requirements:
  • 110% of the base salary if the base salary is less than or equal to $660,000
  • 105% of the base salary if the base salary is greater than $660,000 or less than $1,000,000. However, this qualifying offer cannot exceed $1,000,000.
  • 100% of the base salary if the base salary is equal to or greater than $1,000,000.
  • CBA Reference 10.2 (a) (ii)
• For players who are on expiring contracts that were signed after July 10, 2020:
  • The Qualifying Offer is limited to 120% of their previous contracts annual average (AAV)
  • Reference: 2020 NHL CBA extension Memorandum of Understanding (MOU)

So its based off the last year’s salary but with the one stipulation that it can’t exceed 120% of the AAV. Ole Robertson’s agent was smart. His base salary for year 4 is 120% of the AAV so, he’ll the maximum QO he could get.

What helps Ottawa's cap is that they have three defensemen that were drafted in the first round that have yet to play NHL minutes in Sanderson, Bernard-Docker, and Thomson. They almost certainly will be playing next year.

Could be a help or they could be Bean, Fleury or other not top 4 defenders drafted in the 1st round.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

• The qualifying offer is calculated from the players base salary (NHL salary minus signing bonus), and at minimum must meet the seasons minimum salary requirements:
  • 110% of the base salary if the base salary is less than or equal to $660,000
  • 105% of the base salary if the base salary is greater than $660,000 or less than $1,000,000. However, this qualifying offer cannot exceed $1,000,000.
  • 100% of the base salary if the base salary is equal to or greater than $1,000,000.
  • CBA Reference 10.2 (a) (ii)
• For players who are on expiring contracts that were signed after July 10, 2020:
  • The Qualifying Offer is limited to 120% of their previous contracts annual average (AAV)
  • Reference: 2020 NHL CBA extension Memorandum of Understanding (MOU)

So its based off the last year’s salary but with the one stipulation that it can’t exceed 120% of the AAV. Ole Robertson’s agent was smart. His base salary for year 4 is 120% of the AAV so, he’ll the maximum QO he could get.


Could be a help or they could be Bean, Fleury or other not top 4 defenders drafted in the 1st round.

Assuming that the Senators re-sign Zub (really, they have to), they just need one of those guys to be top 4 caliber by next year, likely Sanderson. Young bottom-pair depth still is a significant help with the cap.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

This one on Johansson?

Yep that’s the hit. I had a good view of it and was going crazy with pissed off Bruins fans around me bitching about how dirty it was lol. Unfortunately Ferland had to fight D Backes for a clean hit after and I think he hurt his hand fighting and didn’t come back that game.

 

[SlavinAway]

Yep that’s the hit. I had a good view of it and was going crazy with pissed off Bruins fans around me bitching about how dirty it was lol. Unfortunately Ferland had to fight D Backes for a clean hit after and I think he hurt his hand fighting and didn’t come back that game.

That's rich coming from Boston fans. I'm willing to call a Canes hit dirty when it's warranted but that was clean as can be.

 

[LostInaLostWorld]

Yep that’s the hit. I had a good view of it and was going crazy with pissed off Bruins fans around me bitching about how dirty it was lol. Unfortunately Ferland had to fight D Backes for a clean hit after and I think he hurt his hand fighting and didn’t come back that game.

If my old mind still works, I recall you posting at the time.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

What helps Ottawa's cap is that they have three defensemen that were drafted in the first round that have yet to play NHL minutes in Sanderson, Bernard-Docker, and Thomson. They almost certainly will be playing next year.

From what it sounds like on the broadcast I watched the other night, Sanderson will be playing this year.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

8 x 6.25 million per isnt terrible for Weegar when you consider what defensive contracts are getting ready to be. I am not a fan of Weegar so even that is too much.

His playoffs play will fit in great in Calgary. a +1 in goal differential, one the ice for 1 PP goal. and horrid on the PK.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I'm somewhat biased towards Weegar because he's a rare story of a 7th rounder becoming a top-pairing player, which I find to be very cool, but I think that 8x6.25M AAV is excellent for both sides. I would say that the AAV is team-friendly but the term is player-friendly. It's actually exactly the numbers that Carolina wanted to retain Hamilton for, though he obviously was able to secure the $9M/year white whale from NJ. I don't think that Weegar and Hamilton are that far apart in terms of overall effectiveness, especially when you consider that the former can play both sides of the rink equally well.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

I'm somewhat biased towards Weegar because he's a rare story of a 7th rounder becoming a top-pairing player, which I find to be very cool, but I think that 8x6.25M AAV is excellent for both sides. I would say that the AAV is team-friendly but the term is player-friendly. It's actually exactly the numbers that Carolina wanted to retain Hamilton for, though he obviously was able to secure the $9M/year white whale from NJ. I don't think that Weegar and Hamilton are that far apart in terms of overall effectiveness, especially when you consider that the former can play both sides of the rink equally well.

I as well think it's a very good deal. I'd put Weegar as a #2D ideally. Even if you believe Weegar is a #3 or #4, this is like Brady Skjei's caphit with inflation over its term.

Also I think the Jason Robertson deal has a ton of risk for Dallas but I thought it was insane they could lock him up under $8M after scoring 41 G in 74 games. I hope this isn't one of those where the player will hold this over the head of management like Johnny Gaudreau did. I'd be surprised if his next contract cap hit is as crazy as some people will make it out to be, but the bigger risk is going 8 years for a slightly older player. I think it will work out and I think the signing was pretty damn cheap.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Nino scores in his first game as a Predator.

And the Czech ice crew is having a hell of a time trying to keep the goal on the pegs. Never seen anything quite like that before.

 

[HisIceness]

So we have regular season Hockey going on while preseason games still play on.

This makes as much sense as the picture of Darth Vader standing in the ocean pouring sea water into a pitcher

 

[Negan4Coach]

Nino scores in his first game as a Predator.

And the Czech ice crew is having a hell of a time trying to keep the goal on the pegs. Never seen anything quite like that before.

Oh what a surprise.

 

[HisIceness]

I miss the El Nino but it is what it is.

 

[Lempo]

• The qualifying offer is calculated from the players base salary (NHL salary minus signing bonus), and at minimum must meet the seasons minimum salary requirements:
  • 110% of the base salary if the base salary is less than or equal to $660,000
  • 105% of the base salary if the base salary is greater than $660,000 or less than $1,000,000. However, this qualifying offer cannot exceed $1,000,000.
  • 100% of the base salary if the base salary is equal to or greater than $1,000,000.
  • CBA Reference 10.2 (a) (ii)
• For players who are on expiring contracts that were signed after July 10, 2020:
  • The Qualifying Offer is limited to 120% of their previous contracts annual average (AAV)
  • Reference: 2020 NHL CBA extension Memorandum of Understanding (MOU)

So its based off the last year’s salary but with the one stipulation that it can’t exceed 120% of the AAV. Ole Robertson’s agent was smart. His base salary for year 4 is 120% of the AAV so, he’ll the maximum QO he could get.

That 110 % is obsolete nowadays, as the league minimum is more than $660k.

SEASON	CLAUSE	CAP HIT	AAV	P. BONUSES	S. BONUSES	BASE SALARY	TOTAL SALARY	MINORS SAL
2022-23		$7,750,000	$7,750,000	$0	$3,000,000	$1,500,000	$4,500,000	$4,500,000
2023-24		$7,750,000	$7,750,000	$0	$0	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$8,000,000
2024-25		$7,750,000	$7,750,000	$0	$0	$9,200,000	$9,200,000	$9,200,000
2025-26		$7,750,000	$7,750,000	$0	$0	$9,300,000	$9,300,000	$9,300,000

Yep, the contract is optimized to give the maximum QO. Also, the low first year is to avoid the 10 % escrow in 2022-23. It will go down to 6 % for 2023-26.

It's not optimized for the high inflation though. Robertson pays heavily for merely to have a QO leverage for the next contract. Maybe he plans to kick the can in 2026 and go UFA.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Vancouver picks up Riley Stillman from the Blackhawks. Eliminates Bear trade possibility to them?

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Vancouver picks up Riley Stillman from the Blackhawks. Eliminates Bear trade possibility to them?

Shouldn’t. Stillman is a LD and still not much of an answer to their hurting d corps.

 

[Unhinged Finn]

Nino owns Prague.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Nino’s gonna score 30 for them. Great signing and love to see it.

 

[skipnjump]

The Kraken may have unveiled the worst mascot of all time.

I showed it to my Mom and she was appalled. She just stared at it and asked what it was supposed to be...

 

[WreckingCrew]

Wait, so other than 2 NSH-SJS games, is everything else still preseason?

Also GIMME FUEL GIMME FIRE GIMME NINO NIEDERREITER

 

[A Star is Burns]

Wait, so other than 2 NSH-SJS games, is everything else still preseason?

Also GIMME FUEL GIMME FIRE GIMME NINO NIEDERREITER

Yes. They want the teams in Europe to get rest when they come back. Think Avs and Jackets are in Europe in November and it requires several days before and after with no games to make it work. This is probably better all things considered.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Yes. They want the teams in Europe to get rest when they come back. Think Avs and Jackets are in Europe in November and it requires several days before and after with no games to make it work. This is probably better all things considered.

It makes sense just fine, I was just confused trying to figure out which games were legit lol

 

[A Star is Burns]

It makes sense just fine, I was just confused trying to figure out which games were legit lol

Think otherwise, Tuesday is the start of the season

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I'm sad about no Nino this year. At the same time, I do get why Carolina did that, because Pacioretty is legitimately a huge offensive upgrade, though Nino was no slouch in that department, either.

 

[HisIceness]

I watched some of the Coyotes/Knights game in Boise. The Coyotes are going to be really bad, probably not a surprise.

Boise has a very strange arena, there are hotel room windows looking into the arena. You can pull up the rolling desk chair and watch a game I guess. But the folks there seem to really love Hockey so that's great. Too bad they aren't a bigger market.

I'm sad about no Nino this year. At the same time, I do get why Carolina did that, because Pacioretty is legitimately a huge offensive upgrade, though Nino was no slouch in that departnent, either.

It be what it be. We traded for Nino when he was at a very low point and he revived his career and helped turn our ship around. Thanks for 69 nice goals in Carolina