cptjeff
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It looks like a political statement in itself because it 100% is one.
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Cardiac Jerks
Asinine & immoral
hblueridgegal
We'll bounce back
I will always remember the Anthony Beauvillier - Anna Kendrick Twitter campaign and how the Metro banded together to try to make it happen.
TheReelChuckFletcher
Former TheRillestPaulFenton; Harverd Alum
There has to be an extension in place, right? That's a crazy good return for Vancouver if it's a rental. I'm pretty sure that it's not, though.
Matt Duchene to Columbus 2.0. 1st from a bubble team and a rising prospect who is not having a great year (Abramov).
The Isles doubling down on their core is just kicking the can down the road on a rebuild. That’s still an aging, middle of the pack team.
The Isles doubling down on their core is just kicking the can down the road on a rebuild. That’s still an aging, middle of the pack team.
DaveG
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yeah way I'm looking at it is they just got the #12-15 pick with KK with less term (Beauvillier) and a prospect that's on the Drury tier. Kindof what I expected the price to be but with a much better pick than I was expecting simply from the standpoint that the Isles aren't making the playoffs this year.
Probably makes the price point on Meier our First, KK, and similar tier prospect as, for god knows whatever reason, people are expecting the return for him to be lower than the Horvat one.
Boom Boom Apathy
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The Raty story is interesting. IIRC, a few years ago, there was talk he might be a 1st OA pick, or at least top 5. He drops and gets passed by a lot of teams. He looks like he's turned it around in his post draft season in Finland, and then the Islanders don't bat an eye trading him. I haven't seen him play much so no idea what type of potential he has.
surfzone365
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Got mixed feelings on this topic. Growing up with the Hawks, names like Hull and Makita were household icons long before Olczyk, Savard, and later on Chelios, Roenick and Belfour. A great career on the ice and standout Blackhawks HOFer, but well aware of the problems later on. I can only hope he made some efforts to make things right even if it was out of the view of the public eye.
bleedgreen
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He’s turned it around for sure but he’s a second round pick that needs some seasoning. Lou isn’t afraid to trade that. Still seems a lot to pay for a rental, but I think Lou probably thinks he’s getting this done.
HisIceness
This is Hurricanes Hockey
I get what you mean but man, I feel like Columbus was in a better position than the NYI are right now. The Jackets wanted to make noise in the playoffs, the Islanders are behind Caps/Pens but also have competition from everyone else in the East besides CBJ and Montreal.
Islanders don't have a good prospect pool. Raty was that guy. IMO bad trade for the NYI. Maybe it will work out somehow but I think they'll regret trading Raty down the road.
In other news...
NHL so dumb. One friggin game tonight (Blues/Jets) and not televised. Could not DSPN+ broadcast it?
So many nights they have 5 or 6 games at the same time and then the west coast games. Or one game that starts at 10.
Dumb dumb dumb
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NHL so dumb. One friggin game tonight (Blues/Jets) and not televised. Could not DSPN+ broadcast it?
So many nights they have 5 or 6 games at the same time and then the west coast games. Or one game that starts at 10.
Dumb dumb dumb
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While I get what you're saying, pretty sure the bye weeks are gonna lead to light nights.
TheReelChuckFletcher
Former TheRillestPaulFenton; Harverd Alum
Wow. That's a great return for Vancouver, then. There's a MASSIVE risk that this becomes Vanek 2.0. Rentals don't tend to get young wingers with term, a Raty-level prospect, and a potentially high-mid tens 1st. I think that the demand for Horvat was just so damned high because of his career season that some team was willing to risk it all to maybe get a chance at locking him up later.
Has occurred at least 2 times this season. 3 games tomorrow. 2 Wednesday. Bye week is no reason for not airing tonights game.
Nikishin Go Boom
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Lou is making their rebuild start early with a trade like this and no extension. Lol
DaveG
Noted Jerk
There the most valuable piece is still the first this year though... If they don't blow it.
Beauvillier is nothing special, decent glue guy but dime a dozen and only one more year after this one before UFA iirc. Raty is intriguing as a middle six option.
But this draft is 2003/2015 good. They better hope they can get an extension done because if they just gave up the 13 for one year of Horvat they just f***ed themselves long term considering their prospect pool. Top 12 protecting the pick is smart, because I still don't think they're better than the Sabres or Panthers
Boom Boom Apathy
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There's not really much "term" to Beauvillier. This year is meaningless for Vancouver so they get him for 1 meaningful year.
I agree though that rentals don't usually get that high of a 1st round pick and a higher end prospect.
Beauvillier is more interesting in the deal because Vancouver already had one or two too many wingers. Plus they re-signed Kuzmenko.
Have to think that Boeser and/or Garland are gone shortly.
Have to think that Boeser and/or Garland are gone shortly.
TheReelChuckFletcher
Former TheRillestPaulFenton; Harverd Alum
Enough term that the guy's game can potentially improve and be sold for a decent draft pick return in 2024. From the Vancouver perspective, that is still a win.
Finlandia WOAT
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There's probably some context, but Stefan Norsen is outproducing Beavillier this year. So it's a mid 1st and a decent prospect for a rental.
I don't think the Islanders are good enough that this makes sense- they're 10th in the East right now, 6th in the Metro and need to jump 1 of the Capitals or Penguins while hoping neither the Sabres or the Panthers jump them. But I guess when you have an elite goalie you might as well go all in every year, any year he can go on a hot streak and give you a deep playoff run.
I don't think the Islanders are good enough that this makes sense- they're 10th in the East right now, 6th in the Metro and need to jump 1 of the Capitals or Penguins while hoping neither the Sabres or the Panthers jump them. But I guess when you have an elite goalie you might as well go all in every year, any year he can go on a hot streak and give you a deep playoff run.
Boom Boom Apathy
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I didn't say it wasn't a win, I just said he doesn't have very much term.
Negan4Coach
Fantastic and Stochastic
Wow, what a joke. The Isles are dumb as shit doing TDL deal like that. They must accept their fate!
But yeah, glad it wasn't anyone we'll be facing in the playoffs. I'm going to try not to be surprised and aggravated when all the top players go to other teams and we get "reclamation projects"
"We need a 2C"
We HAD a 2C. And his name was Vincent Trocheck... His name was Vincent...Trocheck.
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