GDT: Around the League | '22-'23 II

[Delicious Pancakes]

Arizona winning tonight would be great since Minny is probably gonna fall out of the Central and into a WC battle potentially with us.

I don't think it will matter unless the WC1 team has triple digit points. The only time that has happened in the West in the current playoff format was in 2015-16. A few times since 2013 the Western WC1 has had 98 points though, and MoneyPuck projects Vegas, the Flames and Wild to all finish at 98 currently.

Looking at the Oilers remaining schedule I see them finishing around 102 points. 20-10-2 would get them there (.656 P%). They could go 18-12-2 (.593) and finish with 98 points. Only in 2015-16 would they have missed the playoffs with 98 points, and that likely wouldn't happen this year with the current point totals. MoneyPuck currently has the 8th seed finishing at 96 points (Colorado).

NHL Playoff Odds -MoneyPuck 2023 Playoff & Cup Odds

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Lol Trouba is the goat.

 

[Morpheus]

Oil fan(s) representin

 

[Cloned]

I don't think it will matter unless the WC1 team has triple digit points. The only time that has happened in the West in the current playoff format was in 2015-16. A few times since 2013 the Western WC1 has had 98 points though, and MoneyPuck projects Vegas, the Flames and Wild to all finish at 98 currently.

Looking at the Oilers remaining schedule I see them finishing around 102 points. 20-10-2 would get them there (.656 P%). They could go 18-12-2 (.593) and finish with 98 points. Only in 2015-16 would they have missed the playoffs with 98 points, and that likely wouldn't happen this year with the current point totals. MoneyPuck currently has the 8th seed finishing at 96 points (Colorado).

NHL Playoff Odds -MoneyPuck 2023 Playoff & Cup Odds

Always plan for the worst case scenario.

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Oil fan representin

Pretty sure that’s his Oil fan gf/wife/sister/girl “friend” beside him.

 

[Morpheus]

Always plan for the worst case scenario.


Pretty sure that’s his Oil fan gf/wife/sister/girl “friend” beside him.

Fixed.

I also watched the Rangers highlights again.
Flames got bent over.
Gonna watch again

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Absolutely crushed him.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

If you haven't seen the Kadri blowup then Dube coming in to ask Trouba to please stop hitting his teammates so hard and eating a couple, here it is:

 

[Mr Positive]

If the Oilers are in a WC battle by the end of the season, it's a fail. No reason that they shouldn't finish top 3 in the division.
With that said, Minny losing is good regardless.

It's kind of funny that now the Central has a team in a divisional playoff spot that has less points than a Pacific team in a wildcard spot. How the mighty have fallen.

 

[Da McBomb]

Wow, Huberdeau is going to be the worst contract in the league for years. Some Flame fans are hoping that his struggles are due to Sutter's system, but I don't buy that argument at all. Even in the offensive zone, your natural hockey skills should just take over and I don't see any of that happening with Huberdeau. And when your team is trailing in games, often coaches will allow their team to open up and forget about defensive structure - and just let the offensive guys do their thing. Yet.. still Huberdeau hasn't taken over any games that I see. As for the highly touted Mackenzie Weegar.. dude has 1 goal and on pace for 25 points this year. My goodness... the crap Flame fans were spewing this summer that he is a top pairing dman? What bullshit. These first couple of years of their contract is when the Flames were supposed to be really competitive. I don't see any big rebound years ahead for them either considering their age. The contracts handed out to HuberDoh! and Weegar and Kadri are going to set that team back for years and I friggin love it.

 

[K1984]

Wow, Huberdeau is going to be the worst contract in the league for years. Some Flame fans are hoping that his struggles are due to Sutter's system, but I don't buy that argument at all. Even in the offensive zone, your natural hockey skills should just take over and I don't see any of that happening with Huberdeau. And when your team is trailing in games, often coaches will allow their team to open up and forget about defensive structure - and just let the offensive guys do their thing. Yet.. still Huberdeau hasn't taken over any games that I see. As for the highly touted Mackenzie Weegar.. dude has 1 goal and on pace for 25 points this year. My goodness... the crap Flame fans were spewing this summer that he is a top pairing dman? What bullshit. These first couple of years of their contract is when the Flames were supposed to be really competitive. I don't see any big rebound years ahead for them either considering their age. The contracts handed out to HuberDoh! and Weegar and Kadri are going to set that team back for years and I friggin love it.

Last night was a game that in theory Huberdeau should have thrived in. Fast paced, back and fourth, and some loose defensive play at times by the Rangers. Instead I barely noticed he was even playing which is kind of par for the course with him.

$10.5M deal means you have the ability to produce offense on your own, even if you're with less than ideal players. He's basically making an impact at the level of a Yamamoto.

 

[Da McBomb]

Last night was a game that in theory Huberdeau should have thrived in. Fast paced, back and fourth, and some loose defensive play at times by the Rangers. Instead I barely noticed he was even playing which is kind of par for the course with him.

$10.5M deal means you have the ability to produce offense on your own, even if you're with less than ideal players. He's basically making an impact at the level of a Yamamoto.

Yup... and its pretty telling that two shifts into Overtime last night and both Huberdeau and Weegar never even touched the ice.

 

[K1984]

Yup... and its pretty telling that two shifts into Overtime last night and both Huberdeau and Weegar never even touched the ice.

Weegar has the biggest spread I can remember between what analytics tell us and what the eye tells us. I have no idea how he consistently is basically the best D man in the league according to analytics. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

 

[joestevens29]

Wow, Huberdeau is going to be the worst contract in the league for years. Some Flame fans are hoping that his struggles are due to Sutter's system, but I don't buy that argument at all. Even in the offensive zone, your natural hockey skills should just take over and I don't see any of that happening with Huberdeau. And when your team is trailing in games, often coaches will allow their team to open up and forget about defensive structure - and just let the offensive guys do their thing. Yet.. still Huberdeau hasn't taken over any games that I see. As for the highly touted Mackenzie Weegar.. dude has 1 goal and on pace for 25 points this year. My goodness... the crap Flame fans were spewing this summer that he is a top pairing dman? What bullshit. These first couple of years of their contract is when the Flames were supposed to be really competitive. I don't see any big rebound years ahead for them either considering their age. The contracts handed out to HuberDoh! and Weegar and Kadri are going to set that team back for years and I friggin love it.

I think part of the reason is Huberdeau is a lazy player to begin with, if he's been treated the way Sutter usually treats guy I can see him really not giving a shit and dogging it out there.

With that being said I don't think he'll ever be worth his contract. Not with what Calgary currently has as players anyway.

 

[Drivesaitl]

If you haven't seen the Kadri blowup then Dube coming in to ask Trouba to please stop hitting his teammates so hard and eating a couple, here it is:

That was a thing of beauty. Kadri gets absolutely wrecked and the whole world cheers. Popped him real good, contact went up to head (legal hit) then because Kadri doesn't have his helmet strapped on he bangs his melon on the ice. He had obvious cobwebs for a long time there. Interested to know if concussion protocol took effect at all.

Weegar has the biggest spread I can remember between what analytics tell us and what the eye tells us. I have no idea how he consistently is basically the best D man in the league according to analytics. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Said the same thing throughout. There were posters on this board trying to say Weegar was some elite D. I never saw it. Anytime in the playoffs the guy was getting owned. Never passed the eye test as you say. The fault of analytics is it tells more about how and where a player is being used, and with who, then it says about the actual player.

 

[Beerfish]

We as a fan base talk a lot of smack about the flames who are 2 points behind us in the standings.

 

[bellagiobob]

We as a fan base talk a lot of smack about the flames who are 2 points behind us in the standings.

That’s the fun part about sports, trash talking your hated rivals. Doesn’t matter how many points they have, you enjoy it when they lose.

 

[Coffey]

Tee hee

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[Drivesaitl]

We as a fan base talk a lot of smack about the flames who are 2 points behind us in the standings.

Part of it is that how the Flames roster is now structured they will be paying huge amounts of money to players that are going to be pretty old and are not difference makers in first place. Calgary leverage to try to be in a compete now window and sold their futures for that. Calgary has no play at contention, none, and so that its silly the decisions they have made. With Tkachuk and Gaudreau departing they may as well have gone into a rebuild. They didn't.

Oilers conversely have at least a shot at contention this season, did last season, and are in the mix of teams that have a legitimate chance. The standings may not reflect that but its also a given that great players will elevate down the stretch and separate as has tended to be the case here in the McDrai window. Calgary wasn't missing a player like Kane all season either.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

We as a fan base talk a lot of smack about the flames who are 2 points behind us in the standings.

It’s almost like they are our rivals.

 

[McShogun99]

I'm glad that Lucic showed how useful he is during a game where the Flames were getting destroyed by Trouba. Hopefully he gave the Rangers bench a lot of mean stares as he skated past it.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

That was a thing of beauty. Kadri gets absolutely wrecked and the whole world cheers. Popped him real good, contact went up to head (legal hit) then because Kadri doesn't have his helmet strapped on he bangs his melon on the ice. He had obvious cobwebs for a long time there. Interested to know if concussion protocol took effect at all.


Said the same thing throughout. There were posters on this board trying to say Weegar was some elite D. I never saw it. Anytime in the playoffs the guy was getting owned. Never passed the eye test as you say. The fault of analytics is it tells more about how and where a player is being used, and with who, then it says about the actual player.

Nope, didn't miss a shift. Remember when the spotter took McDavid off for bumping his chin? Kadri took a pretty good bang on the ice with his head. Just another day of spin the wheel at the DoPS.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Nope, didn't miss a shift. Remember when the spotter took McDavid off for bumping his chin? Kadri took a pretty good bang on the ice with his head. Just another day at the DoPS.

Thanks. This is exactly what I figured. Flames get carte blanche on it, Kadri doesn't miss a shift. How is that not spotted by the NHL as a possible concussion? The camera was on him for 10 secs as he's trying to gather his cerebral fruit loops parked on the bench. Guy didn't know what funkin day it was. Somebody photoshop some stars flying around his head.

Kadri has also had multiple preceding concussions in his career. Concussion protocol ought to have been automatic.

 

[FanOfSadTeam]

If you haven't seen the Kadri blowup then Dube coming in to ask Trouba to please stop hitting his teammates so hard and eating a couple, here it is:

So dumb that every clean hit has to result in a fight nowadays. What's Trouba supposed to do? Let Kadri skate through?