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LeafEgo

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Looking more and more like he got carried by Brisebois in Tampa Bay. So many misses. Their drafting is still pretty decent I think?
I misread a previous post and took a quick glance and it looked pretty good compared to the field. Also with Yzer surprisingly taking Seider at 5 and essentially driving that selection from the very beginning, along with the Tampa picks, I'd say he's a particularly good bet at drafting, if there are any.

Yzer collected the players, launched them to the top of the standings, and got them to the ECF. Brise got bounced in the first round the next year. They were probably both very good in putting together and executing a minor dynasty.

That previous poster was very correct though in that his FA signings are quite regrettable, and seemingly predictable too.
 

1specter

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The Atlantic division is a cesspool of mediocrity. The worst division in the league.
I don't know about that. The Pacific is pretty awful as well, Anaheim and San Jose are barely NHL teams, Calgary is being carried by Wolf but is otherwise extremely mid, and the Kings are perpetual frauds.
 

Squiffy

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Right now

1.Toronto
2.Florida
3.Boston

1.Washington
2.New Jersey
3.Carolina

1.Tampa Bay
2.New York

Only one third of the season done but I have a hard time seeing the 8 other team in the east getting in. The bottom 4 in the Atlantic are in a never-ending rebuild and the bottom 4 in the Metro are bad.
Don't look now, but a win against the Caps tomorrow is for first in the East no jinx.

Yes, the Devils, but three games in hand, lets be reality.
 
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TMLBlueandWhite

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The only thing harder to find than quality goaltending in the NHL this year is consistent refereeing.

Normally I'm not one to complain about the officials. But it gets hard watching games being decided by phantom calls and blatant non-calls. I understand there's a game management aspect to help keep things flowing smoothly.

But there's an awful lot of head scratching calls being made and not being made.

Bednar's job has to be on the line if the Avs don't make the playoffs. Sakic's probably should be as well. They have far too much talent to be in the position they are today.

You can blame Sakic for not bringing in a quality goaltender.

Rangers are in even worse shape. Imagine having a recent Vezina winner, a recent Norris winner, and one of the best coaches of all time and still only being a couple points from last place in a division with Columbus and Pittsburgh in it. If it wasn't for Quick the Rangers would be in the gutter.

Quality goaltending is at a premium right now and for once the Leafs aren't the ones looking for it.
 

1specter

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Trouba on waivers is crazy. That contract is so bad though and he is so overrated

Boston is 6-2 under Sacco. I don't love it.
Look at who they've played. The two playoff teams they actually faced in the past month had no problem beating them.
 

SprDaVE

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I'm sure the Rangers will dump him on a team like Anaheim.

The Ducks suck but if you're going to go to a bad team, living in Anaheim probably isn't that bad at all. And they are bound to become a better team at some point. Imagine a team with both Gudas and Trouba?

Man Trouba just seems like a real entitled prick

He wanted to go to NYR and they didn't pay a huge premium to get him so they were happy to do it then. They gave him that contract with his NTC, so he's entitled to use it. I think the Rangers are being bigger pricks than he is.
 

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The Ducks suck but if you're going to go to a bad team, living in Anaheim probably isn't that bad at all. And they are bound to become a better team at some point. Imagine a team with both Gudas and Trouba?



He wanted to go to NYR and they didn't pay a huge premium to get him so they were happy to do it then. They gave him that contract with his NTC, so he's entitled to use it. I think the Rangers are being bigger pricks than he is.

So they really, really want him gone from their NHL club.

What are we not aware of?

There is performance bad, but this smells more than that.
 
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SprDaVE

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So they really, really want him gone from their NHL club.

What are we not aware of?

There is performance bad, but this smells more than that.

He's been overrated for awhile. He's kind of like Phaneuf in a lot of ways.

This is a Laviolette coached team. He always starts off well and shit hits the fan quick with that guy.
 

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He's been overrated for awhile. He's kind of like Phaneuf in a lot of ways.

This is a Laviolette coached team. He always starts off well and shit hits the fan quick with that guy.
He certainly seems to have a short shelf life, but I don't think he is the issue here. Rangers are in a weird spot where their core is aging out of their primes while the young players who were suppsoed to carry them forward haven't really taken the next step. Laf at least saved himself from bust status, but he's not the franchise saviour he was supposed to be, while Kakko is a total disappointment and Chytil looked promising until concussions ruined his development. K'Andre Miller has also been struggling. Seems like if Shesty, Fox and Panarin can't carry them most nights they can't win.
 

SprDaVE

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He certainly seems to have a short shelf life, but I don't think he is the issue here. Rangers are in a weird spot where their core is aging out of their primes while the young players who were suppsoed to carry them forward haven't really taken the next step. Laf at least saved himself from bust status, but he's not the franchise saviour he was supposed to be, while Kakko is a total disappointment and Chytil looked promising until concussions ruined his development. K'Andre Miller has also been struggling. Seems like if Shesty, Fox and Panarin can't carry them most nights they can't win.

They are also playing hard ball with their franchise goaltender, Kreider and Zibanejad. They'll get it done with Shesterkin but I don't know how much that room will like how they treated their captain on top of it all. The majority of players were there when he was named captain. He's only been captain for like 2 seasons.

Just a weird situation and I think their execs need to look at the coaching staff and also look in the mirror.
 
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Damisoph

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Maybe I’m mistaken, watching the Nash game tonite, Habs on the pp Pred loses his stick in his dzone, Laine moves the stick with his stick out of the way,away from the Nash player. I’m sure I’ve heard this talked about in some detail on Leafs broadcasts this year a couple of times(and I believe Leafs got penalized for it at least once) that you can’t do it even to help a teammate.
Yet tonite it was obvious waht Laine did and there was no mention at all. Mike Johnson is usually right on this kinda thing.
Maybe I misremember or maybe it’s another example of ticky tacky calls in Leaf games. As always the state of refereeing and rule enforcement remains curiously haphazard

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I think it was McMann that was penalized against Detroit. Then McDavid did it to JT's stick and seconds later Draisaitl tied the game with the net empty. Another rule being applied inconsistently. Or just applied against the Leafs might be a better way to put it
 
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He certainly seems to have a short shelf life, but I don't think he is the issue here. Rangers are in a weird spot where their core is aging out of their primes while the young players who were suppsoed to carry them forward haven't really taken the next step. Laf at least saved himself from bust status, but he's not the franchise saviour he was supposed to be, while Kakko is a total disappointment and Chytil looked promising until concussions ruined his development. K'Andre Miller has also been struggling. Seems like if Shesty, Fox and Panarin can't carry them most nights they can't win.

Re Laf; vs. Kakko

Laf has 17 points in 24 games, with 17:27 a game, 8 goals.
Kakko has 13 points, in 24 games, with 13:27 a game, 4 goals.

Laf starts 62% in the Ozone, Kakko 52%

Laf is on ice for 4.5 goals against/60
Kakko is on ice for 1.4 goals against/60

Laf is on ice for 2.8 GF/60, Kakko 3.4 GF/60

Kakko on ice goals 74.4%, Expected 57.7%
Laf on ice goals 43.1%, expected 49.6%

Laf -11
Kakko +10

Laf scores more no question, more points.
When Laf is on the ice, NYR are losing at the game of hockey
When Kakko is on the ice, NYR are winning at the game of hockey.

Just my opinion.
 
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