Around the League - 2023/24

[Ararana]

Good luck trading him as well.

I'd still trade for him. Especially now that he's probably cheap as all hell

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Help potentially cause CTE? 4 games

Bet on hockey? 41 games

Makes... sense.

Baseball...

Throw at someone's head, 2-3 games

PEDs, half to full season suspension

Bet on baseball, lifetime ban.

 

[dahrougem2]

We might not see Pinto all season.

That'd make two Sens top-9 forwards (Pinto, Formenton) gone due to suspension/theories of suspension.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[AegonLeConqueror]

I'd still trade for him. Especially now that he's probably cheap as all hell

I’m confused by the whole* Pinto situation. I read somewhere that they offered him like 1yrx$1M. I thought he was a pretty good player?

 

[Avs_19]

I’ll wait for more info but my immediate reaction is who cares if he’s betting if it’s not related to hockey, which it reportedly isn’t. We’ll see if he did something truly idiotic/egregious. Of course if it’s in the CBA then he should know better and he’s screwed.

 

[Balthazar]

Baseball...

Throw at someone's head, 2-3 games

PEDs, half to full season suspension

Bet on baseball, lifetime ban.

That's understandable. Betting affects the integrity of the sport/league.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Ok, then why is he suspended if the league allows betting on other sports?

 

[The Abusement Park]

I’ll wait for more info but my immediate reaction is who cares if he’s betting if it’s not related to hockey, which it reportedly isn’t. We’ll see if he did something truly idiotic/egregious.

Yeah I agree. In the NFL you can get in trouble for betting on non NFL sports if you’re on team premises I’m pretty sure, which I think is stupid. If it’s something like that with Pinto then who cares. If it’s on Sens or nhl games that’s different.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Pinto shouldn't have joined a cash Yahoo fantasy hockey league with his buddies

 

[Balthazar]

Ok, then why is he suspended if the league allows betting on other sports?

This is BS.

Friedman: There are situations where leagues have punished players who did not bet on their sport. One example: In June, Tennessee Titans lineman Nicholas Petit-Frere was suspended six games for placing a legal bet at the team’s facility, which is not allowed under NFL rules.

There's no way in Hell that they suspended him 41 games if they didn't believe that he betted on NHL games.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Ok, then why is he suspended if the league allows betting on other sports?

Yeah that’s dumb…

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Doesn't sound like someone that's going to fight it..

 

[LOFIN]

Ok, then why is he suspended if the league allows betting on other sports?

Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, but that tweet by Seravalli said

"League found no evidence that Pinto made any wagers on NHL games."

Note the bolded. That (at least for me) leaves the door open he still placed an NHL related bet.

 

[arun]

I'd still trade for him. Especially now that he's probably cheap as all hell

Yes do it.

 

[Balthazar]

Doesn't sound like someone that's going to fight it..

It's in Pinto's interest to keep a low profile and not fighting it. The NHL knows that he betted on NHL games, he got punished accordingly but both the league and the player are saving face with the "no evidence, case closed" crap.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, but that tweet by Seravalli said

Note the bolded. That (at least for me) leaves the door open he still placed an NHL related bet.

So what's he betting on? Like the Points Bet shit the Altitude crew does, betting on who scores the first goal, how O/U on goals scored, that so-and-so gets an assist, etc.?

 

[LOFIN]

So what's he betting on? Like the Points Bet shit the Altitude crew does, betting on who scores the first goal, how O/U on goals scored, that so-and-so gets an assist, etc.?

Imagine he took a prop bet on Dorion being the first GM fired this season and he refused to sign a contract until he was.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[dmac7719]

So what's he betting on? Like the Points Bet shit the Altitude crew does, betting on who scores the first goal, how O/U on goals scored, that so-and-so gets an assist, etc.?

Betting on who wins which award, who wins the cup, etc.

Lots of NHL related bets out there that aren't NHL game bets

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

GARRIOCH: Senators centre Shane Pinto suspended for gambling violations

Ottawa Senators RFA centre Shane Pinto has been suspended by the NHL for 41 games "for activities violating the league's wagering rules."

ottawasun.com

Sources say Pinto didn’t bet on hockey, but the league found enough in its investigation to find there was behavior that isn’t allowed under circumstances.

So what did Pinto do?

League sources say Pinto’s online gambling account in the United States was flagged by a company that is a partner of the league because of unusual activity and it contacted the NHL’s head office two weeks ago.

Since then, the league has been conducting a thorough investigation and clearly they found something was untoward or Bettman wouldn’t have come down so hard in his ruling.

Judging by his account on X (formerly known as Twitter), Pinto is a huge fan of the Philadelphia Phillies.

The collective bargaining agreement between the NHL and the NHLPA clearly states that gambling “on any NHL game is prohibited” and club employees are subject to the same rules.

Under the terms of the CBA, Bettman has the right to impose discipline on any player for conduct that’s “detrimental to the game of hockey.”

 

[Chiarelli]

Don't look now but Ovechkin has 2 goals!

Garbage minute goal and an empty netter. I do think he's the best goal scorer of all time but he’s gonna pass Gretzky beating a third string AHLer in a 5-1 game and it’ll be so anti climactic

Matheson is 6'2 and Karlsson is over 6'0?

Makar and Orlov are the only guys under 6'0 in the top 10 at least.

Wow I always thought orlov was bigger. 215 at 5’11 tho is big

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

The NHLPA was involved in the Shane Pinto case and was part of the negotiations for the duration of the 41-game suspension. There will obviously be no appeal.

 

[Chiarelli]

Dude for sure was tampering or betting on games in some way to get half a season

 

[S E P H]

Help potentially cause CTE? 4 games

Bet on hockey? 41 games

Makes... sense.

I know right but it isn't just hockey. In futball Ivan Toney got an 8 month ban and Tonali just got banned 10 months.