Around the League - 2023/24

[expatriatedtexan]

Nothing that is durable enough. It has been getting worked on for a decade now.

I find that hard to believe. They've obviously got the geolocation stuff down pat because they can flip a switch to highlight the puck in glowing colors. The plane of the goal is not variable, so it is easy to know/program. You just need to put two and two together. I've been bitching about this for three + years now. Offsides, icing and puck crossing the goal line can all be automated now. They already have player tracking data as they use it all the time when trying to sell the new fancy stats website. There are some variables to work though because I'm not sure where the tracking data is located on the uniforms. It would have to be in the skates for icing and offsides to work correctly (one in each skate so you can always know which foot is leading and which is trailing). But none of this stuff is rocket science. It's simple coding once given access to data.

[Edit... Technically, the goal sound could be accomplished with a .0001 cent security tag they use at shopping stores to sound the alarm when they forget to deactivate the little sticker. Freaking KMart was doing this in the 80s. ]

 

[AvBuff]

Jeezus, Edmonton is just worthless.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

f***ing Edmonton, just bending over for Dallas.

 

[henchman21]

I find that hard to believe. They've obviously got the geolocation stuff down pat because they can flip a switch to highlight the puck in glowing colors. The plane of the goal is not variable, so it is easy to know/program. You just need to put two and two together. I've been bitching about this for three + years now. Offsides, icing and puck crossing the goal line can all be automated now. They already have player tracking data as they use it all the time when trying to sell the new fancy stats website. There are some variables to work though because I'm not sure where the tracking data is located on the uniforms. It would have to be in the skates for icing and offsides to work correctly (one in each skate so you can always know which foot is leading and which is trailing). But none of this stuff is rocket science. It's simple coding once given access to data.

[Edit... Technically, the goal sound could be accomplished with a .0001 cent security tag they use at shopping stores to sound the alarm when they forget to deactivate the little sticker. Freaking KMart was doing this in the 80s. ]

It’s about being powerful enough to transmit through a puck, while taking thousands of small and large impacts repeatedly ove r and over and over. It can’t last just a game, it can’t break during the game and it has to act natural. It has been tried for years and solution just hasn’t come forward yet. The actual tracking is the easy part. The durability is the hard part.

The tracking chip for players is right shoulder on the back.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

My erection from the start of the Rangers/Devils game just subsided.

Hockey is the best.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

It’s about being powerful enough to transmit through a puck, while taking thousands of small and large impacts repeatedly ove r and over and over. It can’t last just a game, it can’t break during the game and it has to act natural. It has been tried for years and solution just hasn’t come forward yet. The actual tracking is the easy part. The durability is the hard part.

The tracking chip for players is right shoulder on the back.

Think the nerd in me just found a project to research to pass the time at work. I seriously hadn't thought that material science would be the limiting factor here.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Man Wyatt Johnston is such a great get for the Stars and Stankhoven aswell. They might win the cup if Oettinger plays like this in the playoffs.

 

[henchman21]

Think the nerd in me just found a project to research to pass the time at work. I seriously hadn't thought that material science would be the limiting factor here.

Look up current games used pucks. They have 8 (?) sensor holes now that are used in the current system the NHL is using (iirc they’ve resorted to mostly infrared tracking which has its own limitations). The grail is getting away from the need to have them basically surface set and to be able to track through.

It will get there in time, but we just aren’t quite there yet.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

The Stars are the best run organization in hockey.

The talent they’ve amassed while not drafting high in the draft is extremely impressive. There’s a lot of teams in the West that have incredible depth, Dallas leads them.

Colorado needs to avoid the injury bug, because they need all the bodies they can muster for the playoffs.

 

[dahrougem2]

Holy did not realize Burakovsky was having a nightmare season in Seattle. 15 points in 42 games.

 

[AvsMakar08]

Hopefully Edmonton will manage to get a point or two on the PP.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Look up current games used pucks. They have 8 (?) sensor holes now that are used in the current system the NHL is using (iirc they’ve resorted to mostly infrared tracking which has its own limitations). The grail is getting away from the need to have them basically surface set and to be able to track through.

It will get there in time, but we just aren’t quite there yet.

Yeah, I'm already searching for used pucks online. Am planning on grabbing three. Figure I'll cut the first right in half to have a good look at what exactly the chip is and how it's all assembled. I love tinkering.

 

[The Merchant]

Holy did not realize Burakovsky was having a nightmare season in Seattle. 15 points in 42 games.

Can't blame the guy too much considering how much he's been in and out of the lineup all year

 

[Balthazar]

Holy did not realize Burakovsky was having a nightmare season in Seattle. 15 points in 42 games.

Considering what happened with Donskoi, Grubauer and Burakovsky I don't think former Avs are still on the menu for Seattle..

 

[Alex Jones]

Yeah, he does not seem to be the same after getting knocked out by Lucic.

I have never been hit in the head. Only slapped a few times by women. I don't even know how it feels to be punched in the face.

I think it's just a mental thing. I don't know how badly he was hurt after that fight, but it's possible he's never been dropped that hard before.

IMO Lucic is the best fighter in NHL history. He understands how to actually fight. I don't know what his background is but I'm very sure he was in boxing/kickboxing/mma at one point. He understands the value of throwing shorter straight shots (you never see him do the load up all the way from the hip move) and he often seems to find the other guys timing.

MacDermid is like almost every other hockey fighter. You're on ice so you can't really set your feet to drive power from your legs so guys try to generate power by winding way up and throwing a ton of momentum into shots. This is a mistake it creates a very predictable motion that is easy to time, there's a reason so many hockey fights just turn into a rhymical game of "you swing, then I swing back".

Lucic understands that MacDermid likes to throw huge shots with all of his momentum. The only thing that you have to do to neutralize this is land a good shot while the other guy is coming forward....he's doing all of the work for you. Lucic knows this and loves to double up his rights in case the other guy thinks it's "his turn" to throw. That's what happened there it wasn't really even a hard punch that dropped Dermy.

I think that MacDermid got scared from that and now has some fear to throw his bomb. When there's a possibility of get countered I see some hesitation to commit.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Can't blame the guy too much considering how much he's been in and out of the lineup all year

He missed 33 games last year and 33 games so far this season. I'm glad we had him during his most healthy years (20/21 and 21/22) but am a little relieved we didn't have the cap space to re-sign him.

 

[the_fan]

Safe to say Avs not catching Dallas. They’re 5 points up now with a much easier schedule remaining

 

[The Puckhound]

I think it's just a mental thing. I don't know how badly he was hurt after that fight, but it's possible he's never been dropped that hard before.

IMO Lucic is the best fighter in NHL history. He understands how to actually fight. I don't know what his background is but I'm very sure he was in boxing/kickboxing/mma at one point. He understands the value of throwing shorter straight shots (you never see him do the load up all the way from the hip move) and he often seems to find the other guys timing.

MacDermid is like almost every other hockey fighter. You're on ice so you can't really set your feet to drive power from your legs so guys try to generate power by winding way up and throwing a ton of momentum into shots. This is a mistake it creates a very predictable motion that is easy to time, there's a reason so many hockey fights just turn into a rhymical game of "you swing, then I swing back".

Lucic understands that MacDermid likes to throw huge shots with all of his momentum. The only thing that you have to do to neutralize this is land a good shot while the other guy is coming forward....he's doing all of the work for you. Lucic knows this and loves to double up his rights in case the other guy thinks it's "his turn" to throw. That's what happened there it wasn't really even a hard punch that dropped Dermy.

I think that MacDermid got scared from that and now has some fear to throw his bomb. When there's a possibility of get countered I see some hesitation to commit.

You are correct in that Lucic trained/fought as a boxer when he was younger. I agree it sets him apart from the other heavyweights as he is as big and vicious as anyone but also has timing/technique.

I'd be curious to know if any other enforcers/frequent fighters in the league train in martial arts specifically to help their fighting on ice.

 

[The Merchant]

Safe to say Avs not catching Dallas. They’re 5 points up now with a much more easy schedule remaining

And it's the way it should be after how badly the Avs have fumbled against the only easy games remaining on their schedule

 

[RECKLESS]

Angry Edmonton on our back-to-back road game. Not loving it but would be double the fun beating them.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Angry Edmonton on our back-to-back road game. Not loving it but would be double the fun beating them.

Avs are going to get messed up in that game

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Safe to say Avs not catching Dallas. They’re 5 points up now with a much easier schedule remaining

Yep, looking increasingly likely that it will be either the Jets or Preds, probably 75% chance its the Jets at this point.

 

[Alex Jones]

You are correct in that Lucic trained/fought as a boxer when he was younger. I agree it sets him apart from the other heavyweights as he is as big and vicious as anyone but also has timing/technique.

I'd be curious to know if any other enforcers/frequent fighters in the league train in martial arts specifically to help their fighting on ice.

Rypien definitely did mma he used a bunch of clinch tactics.

Brashear was probably trained in something. He had a great strategy. You would think another southpaw would try it.

 

[Grigowski]

Safe to say Avs not catching Dallas. They’re 5 points up now with a much easier schedule remaining

Dallas deserves to win the Central and West. They went on a run in the right moment and didnt shit away games like we did against Montreal and Columbus.

I just want the AVS to be healthy when the show starts. And if they can secure home-ice in Round 1 against the Jets (i think this matchup is nearly set) it would be a good thing.

I still think we can beat Dallas and that our team, with all men on board, is above Dallas. The difference is in net. If Oettinger finds his game we are probably f***ed because our starter searches his game for half of the season.

Hell, i would even say the Tandem of Kuemper/Franky is way above Georgiev/Anunnen...... So our players really need to show a performance like in 2022 to win that damn thing because our goalies wont win them much......

 

[Foppa2118]

I'm surprised the Remepe and Dermy fight ended with both players exhausted. Really thought it would have ended with one of them going down.

Dermy had his chin way up in the air with his arms down at the end too. Rempe was looking for it, but took some hard shots himself. Fight ended at the high time. Someone was about to go down.