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I guess he'll be putting up a ton of points playing with Bedard..
Around the League - 2022-23 season thread part I
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He's gonna go stand in front of that cannon at this rate.
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The Muzzin injuries sound real rough, not sure he plays again but I thought the same about Odrej Kase.
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I don’t thimk he really cares all that much. If his wife is happy and he likes the city …
He doesn’t strike me as the type of guy that woild out winning over everything.
Not sayig that there is anything really wrong with that . Just that he doesn’t prioritize hockey over some things. Maybe I’m wrong , that’s just my take on him
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Putting Huberdeau on a line with a 35 year old winger, who has scored double digits in goals twice (12G in 2016-17 & 14G in 2017-18) in 14 previous seasons, so you can put Lucic with the winger who scored 35 goals last season feels slightly, I dunno, galaxy brained.
Everyone was crowning Sutter as a savy vet genius last season but having a contract year Gaudreau, a contract year Tkachuk and Lindholm play all 82 games together, plus having the god mode version of Markstrom most of the regular season, made his job a hell of lot easier.
I also think putting Huberdeau with Lewis is dumb, but to be fair, Sutter has tried to stick with the Huberdeau - Lindholm - Toffoli combination and it simply hasn't worked.
In the absence of scoring, I can see some rationale for Sutter just trying to build four competent lines that can hopefully play to a draw.
Yeah I agree, it's easy to coach when your goalie is on a heater and you have probably the best line in the league. He doesn't have those things now though.
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Habs game has potential to be very entertaining.
Habs are fun to watch . They have a lot of holes in their roster but Caufield / Suzuki / Laf will be cool to watch.
I just hope that thier rookie Dman Xakakajaiaii doesn’t try to be a hero and take runs at Hughes and Bratt. That kid hits hard and goes out of his way to do so .
I haven’t looked at the Habs schedule , I’m hoping they need to give Allen a rest so we can light uo their backup for a half-dozen .
Habs are fun to watch . They have a lot of holes in their roster but Caufield / Suzuki / Laf will be cool to watch.
I just hope that thier rookie Dman Xakakajaiaii doesn’t try to be a hero and take runs at Hughes and Bratt. That kid hits hard and goes out of his way to do so .
I haven’t looked at the Habs schedule , I’m hoping they need to give Allen a rest so we can light uo their backup for a half-dozen .
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I honestly don’t care or follow the Flames too much. Maybe playing with Backlund helps him.
I can’t see any argument for him playing with Lewis. He’s simply more of a facilitator and Lewis can’t be facilitated into doing much of anything.
It’s good that Ruzicka has finally broken through though, he was one of their best players against us when he got to play in the 2nd game.
Hopefully Bratt is paying attention that the grass is not always greener...
Huberdeau seemed happy in Florida, but they couldn't come to a long-term agreement. Not sure how much negotiation went on, but he sure was pissed when he got traded and now he's struggling in the new environment.
Surely, things are not going as well as expected for Gaudreau either in Columbus.
Hopefully Bratt and his agent realize what a good fit Jesper is in NJ, see the potential of this team with him on it and can come to a reasonable agreement for both parties on a long-term extension.
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My understanding is there was no negotiation with Florida.
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Sometimes the players need to step in and tell the agents to get a deal done. An agent is never going to leave money on the table because he wants to help a franchise with team building and the Cap unless the player instructs him to. That’s what I’m hoping Bratt has done or will do. Having a successful season and seeing that it could potentially be the 1st of many should help.
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Expand on this too… I hope Bratt leaves some money on the table in a sense that him and his agent don’t drag things on to get the Devils to cave. If Bratt wants to be a part of what is building and happening here then he has a chance to make his fair share of money while also leaving something to allow the team to sign the depth guys or next up 2nd contracts for players.
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Eh, he said he wanted to win here and we actually haven’t done a lot of that winning stuff while he’s been here.
I said before the season that a worst case scenario was Bratt having a very good to fantastic year while the Devils’ season went into the toilet for dumb and frustrating reasons yet again.
The schedule hit it’s first tough patch around mid/late December but if we keep picking up points before then the good vibes are presumably going to be in full force.
I don’t know about giving us a discount, or what people would consider a discount, but I don’t know if he’s going to be a cold mercenary either.
If he feels like he finally knows this team is taking the next step this negotiation might go a bit easier. Both sides will be motivated.
I think there has to be agreement on a reasonable range. Last year, I think in retrospect, the reasonable range probably opened with something just below the Fiala number so maybe an early deal could have been done for $7.5 to $7.75. By the end of the offseason with the Kyrou contract that reasonable range had probably moved up to the $8-$8.25 range. If NJ really offered something starting with a 6 I can understand why they never got any traction. I expect Bratt to set the new reasonable range this season. Maybe $8.75 to $9?
I'm also curious to see where the Devils would go with some of the other aspects of the contract.
Giving players a higher percentage of signing bonus versus salary is attractive as the full signing bonus gets paid out to the player whereas a (not insignificant) portion of the salary is never received by the player due to the escrow and ensuring a 50/50 player/owner revenue split.
There's quite a difference between what NJ has done luring UFA's versus re-signing players. Half of Palat's contract and 49.3% of Hamilton's are paid out in signing bonuses compared to just 3.1% for Hughes and 5.9% for Hischier. Hell, even Siegenthaler (8.8%) and Vanecek (14.3%) have a higher percentage of signing bonus money in their contracts than Jack & Nico. Wonder if they offer Bratt closer to the 50/50 split of signing bonus to salary to help keep down his cap number?
Another area is with the NMC/NTC. Again, major differences here between re-signing our own guys versus attracting UFA's...though to an extent. Hamilton received full NMC in the first 4 of his 7 years, while Palat has full NMC protection in the first 3 out of 5 years of his contract. After that, it goes to a 10-team no-trade list (plus NMC to avoid being sent to the minors). Surprisingly, Jack and Nico only have a 10-team no-trade list during their UFA years. Will be interesting to (hopefully...as it means Bratt gets resigned) see how flexible they would be here with Bratt, though they seem rather firm on the 10-team only NTC for the latter parts of contracts. That is also what Siegenthaler received for the final 4 of 5 years of his extension.
The main takeaway from this is just how surprisingly team-friendly the Jack and Nico contracts are beyond the cap hits.
Sometimes I wonder how much of coaching is just psychologically messing with the players. I think that was part of the reason why Larry Robinson enjoyed being an assistant more than a head coach. He could help the players out without the mind games.
Mike Rupp told an amusing story about getting called up as a rookie in 2003 and Pat Burns chewed him out during an intermission in front of the team. Rupp was confused since he was a 4th liner who barely got any ice time. After Burns left the room, Joe Nieuwendyk told Rupp something like "Don't worry about it rook, he's just yelling at you because he's already yelled at everybody else."
Feel like Sutter is demoting Huberdeau to try to get him going. Some coaches seem to relish to see if a player responds to negative reinforcement. Huberdeau also might not be 100%, he was just in a walking boot last week and couldn't put on a skate.
Mike Rupp told an amusing story about getting called up as a rookie in 2003 and Pat Burns chewed him out during an intermission in front of the team. Rupp was confused since he was a 4th liner who barely got any ice time. After Burns left the room, Joe Nieuwendyk told Rupp something like "Don't worry about it rook, he's just yelling at you because he's already yelled at everybody else."
Feel like Sutter is demoting Huberdeau to try to get him going. Some coaches seem to relish to see if a player responds to negative reinforcement. Huberdeau also might not be 100%, he was just in a walking boot last week and couldn't put on a skate.
Hopefully a little of that rubs off on Bratt. He can be part of something special with NJ in a pivotal role playing with friends and some countrymen. That sounds pretty good to me.
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im trying to understand how 50/50 split of signing bonus to salary keeps the cap hit down?
As I understand it the cap hit remains but the actual cash payout is subject to escrow so not all of it ultimately gets paid and the payments get suspended if there is a lockout as opposed to signing bonuses which get paid even in the event of lockout.
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