Around the League - 2022-23 season thread part I

[bossram]

They did a LOT more than that, which I noted a few posts later. Constant Neverending harassment. And you know what I was essentially told by the school principal? "Fight them". Seriously, that is not a joke.

And this anecdote about the principal doesn't have anything to do with the Miller situation.

 

[sabremike]

And this anecdote about the principal doesn't have anything to do with the Miller situation.

It was intended to show just how messed up the entire situation was and how indifferent people were in authority were to what was happening to me.

 

[bossram]

Seguin doesn't fit the culture because young partier but Miller fits right in...

Even worse, Dougie liked to go to museums! We can't have that kind of character in the locker room! We need Miller to show the boys what's up.

 

[Sgt Brylin]

Didn't Ken Holland get the memo Miller was available, then?

Also, Auston Matthews is, has always been, and will always be a cheap punk. It's not about toughness, it's about someone being paid and skilled and not pulling his weight in the grind. We've seen it for years, he's a 6'3 baby. It's like watching Eric Gelinas all over again.

 

[My3Sons]

sorry, this goes well beyond "kids being kids"

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That goes beyond just bullying and reeks of thr sort of behavior that really disturbed people exhibit. He probably should be undergoing an evaluation to determine if he is a sociopath or at least personality disorder. I wouldn’t want him around any of my kids until he’s cleared by a properly qualified panel of psychiatrists.

 

[MauDevils]

That goes beyond just bullying and reeks of thr sort of behavior that really disturbed people exhibit. He probably should be undergoing an evaluation to determine if he is a sociopath or at least personality disorder. I wouldn’t want him around any of my kids until he’s cleared by a properly qualified panel of psychiatrists.

My thoughts exactly. Someone who can torture animals, hurt kids or target someone with a mental disability is just not right. That's not a maturity issue.

 

[britdevil]

f*** the Bruins and f*** Miller.

You don’t grow out of that behaviour. These scum bags only learn how to hide their actions as they get older.

Bullying is terrible, doing it to a mentally handicapped peer at age 14 is extra terrible. Then you add racial slurs into the mix and you get a really rotten egg.

f*** this guy, he should never see NHL ice.

 

[Satans Hockey]

For me, playing professional sports is a privilege, not a right. You get paid a ton of money to play a literal game for a living then there should be a code of conduct for your past, current and future actions.

This wasn't just kids bullying kids that happens in normal schools. This was beyond over the top and disgusting. I don't know what kind of schools everyone here went to but the ones I went to people never f***ed around with the kids in special education because even the vast majority of kids have empathy for those with special needs.

This guy ain't worth the headache to have on anyone's team, if he actually ever makes it to the NHL he's going to get booed around the league and constantly have a negative spotlight on him and his team. Why invite this mess when you don't need too.

Also good lord this douche bag has one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen.

 

[Satans Hockey]

What an embarrassing press conference, yikes...

 

[Darkauron]

Jesus christ what a joke of a franchise.

 

[Satans Hockey]

 

[My3Sons]

I don’t think Bergeron believes what he’s saying.

 

[Xirik]

I don’t think Bergeron believes what he’s saying.

I feel for him when/if his kid asks about it.

 

[Satans Hockey]

I don’t think Bergeron believes what he’s saying.

I took it as that he didn't seem thrilled about it and there were reports that some of the leaders on the team were not happy with the signing so probably an easy guess that he's one of them.

Seems like their front office put their guys under a distracting spotlight that wasn't remotely needed.

 

[NJDevs26]

Didn't Ken Holland get the memo Miller was available, then?

Apparently there were a number of teams considering signing him according to Elliotte Friedman. Amazing that it took a year and a half for him to put out some lameo 'apology' on Instagram to attempt to rehab his image just enough for asshole NHL GM's to justify signing him. I really hope we weren't one of them, I trust Fitzy enough to think we weren't one of them.

 

[Sgt Brylin]

Apparently there were a number of teams considering signing him according to Elliotte Friedman. Amazing that it took a year and a half for him to put out some lameo 'apology' on Instagram to attempt to rehab his image just enough for asshole NHL GM's to justify signing him. I really hope we weren't one of them, I trust Fitzy enough to think we weren't one of them.

If we were, I'd have been embarrased to be seen in our colours until both him and the entire front office that signed him was long gone.

 

[Bleedred]

I actually didn't realize until a half a day later that this is the same one the Coyotes drafted and later dropped just weeks after.

I immediately thought of that player yesterday, but didn't actually realize it was the same guy, as I forgot what his name was.

I'm actually relieved that it's indeed the same guy. I see it as ''Well, at least it's not one additional piece of shit involved with hockey. It's the same piece of shit''.

I can't remember if Arizona dropped him after everything came out or if they felt pressured to drop him for the weeks after drafting him. I can't recall if it was already out in the open at the time he was drafted.

 

[Triumph]

Apparently there were a number of teams considering signing him according to Elliotte Friedman. Amazing that it took a year and a half for him to put out some lameo 'apology' on Instagram to attempt to rehab his image just enough for asshole NHL GM's to justify signing him. I really hope we weren't one of them, I trust Fitzy enough to think we weren't one of them.

I don't think the Devils need Mitchell Miller, they have a gazillion defensive prospects. If it was 2016? Not convinced the Devils aren't involved. Although you do have to wonder if the Bruins were the team leaking the interest from other teams in him.

 

[NJDevs26]

I actually didn't realize until a half a day later that this is the same one the Coyotes drafted and later dropped just weeks after.

I immediately thought of that player yesterday, but didn't actually realize it was the same guy, as I forgot what his name was.

I'm actually relieved that it's indeed the same guy. I see it as ''Well, at least it's not one additional piece of shit involved with hockey. It's the same piece of shit''.

I can't remember if Arizona dropped him after everything came out or if they felt pressured to drop him for the weeks after drafting him. I can't recall if it was already out in the open at the time he was drafted.

I thought it was Malioux at first somehow thinking the Habs had dropped him, I'm not gonna lie - I'd pretty much forgotten about this kid who actually did worse shit than Malioux.

 

[PWiz30]

TIL Rangers fans think Kakko is better than Patrick Kane.

 

[Lou is God]

I don't think the Devils need Mitchell Miller, they have a gazillion defensive prospects. If it was 2016? Not convinced the Devils aren't involved. Although you do have to wonder if the Bruins were the team leaking the interest from other teams in him.

Especially since we have several defensive prospects that are similar in style and size like Casey. I'm actually pretty convinced we were never interested in him.

 

[NJDevs26]

I don't think the Devils need Mitchell Miller, they have a gazillion defensive prospects. If it was 2016? Not convinced the Devils aren't involved. Although you do have to wonder if the Bruins were the team leaking the interest from other teams in him.

I mean it's either them who leaked it or the kid's agent, one of the two. Doesn't really serve anyone else to put it out there that teams were interested. And it wouldn't shock me if multiple teams were interested, the NHL hasn't exactly been above the fray in terms of a lack of accountability for bad seeds. I don't think Chicago is the only place where a sexual assault scandal could have happened unchecked, put it that way - and they weren't even protecting a freaking player in that case.

 

[Blender]

The Devils signing Miller would likely do immense damage to all the brand development they have been doing with minorities in Newark and the area for years now. Why risk pissing off communities you have actively been trying to appeal to with a minor league plug signing?

 

[Brodeur]

I actually didn't realize until a half a day later that this is the same one the Coyotes drafted and later dropped just weeks after.

I immediately thought of that player yesterday, but didn't actually realize it was the same guy, as I forgot what his name was.

I'm actually relieved that it's indeed the same guy. I see it as ''Well, at least it's not one additional piece of shit involved with hockey. It's the same piece of shit''.

I can't remember if Arizona dropped him after everything came out or if they felt pressured to drop him for the weeks after drafting him. I can't recall if it was already out in the open at the time he was drafted.

As I remember it, some of the story was known before the draft. To the point where nobody took him in my keeper league entry draft (which we do before the actual one). I think on talent, he was a 2nd round pick but everybody figured he'd drop or go undrafted the first time like Myles Bell.

After the draft, the mother of the victim told the press some additional details about how Miller never apologized to them directly and would skate by their house after the court ruling as if to say "Yeah, so what now."

The really odd thing was that Arizona hired Bill Armstrong as GM right before that draft. Armstrong was the head amateur scout for St. Louis, so part of the agreement was that he had to sit out the draft for Arizona since he knew St. Louis' draft board.

(That sort of thing isn't unusual. I find it funny when people blame Calgary's 2000 Draft on Craig Button when he was prohibited from being at their table under similar circumstances. The Kings hired Ron Hextall as assistant GM before the 2006 Draft from Philadelphia and he was allowed to join them immediately. LA then traded in front of Philadelphia and took Trevor Lewis who they badly wanted. Bobby Clarke was pissed afterwards, although they got Claude Giroux.)

So Armstrong was at home watching Arizona make their picks and I think he was blindsided about them taking Miller. Then he had to talk to the media afterwards and half-heartedly had to throw his initial support behind the pick before they rescinded his rights.

 

[tailfins]

The Devils signing Miller would likely do immense damage to all the brand development they have been doing with minorities in Newark and the area for years now. Why risk pissing off communities you have actively been trying to appeal to with a minor league plug signing?

You say that, but the headline I saw today was:

NHL team signs player convicted of assaulting black, disabled classmate​

That's going to tarnish the entire sport - including the Devils. I'm not sure most people in minority communities care if it's the Devils who signed this kid or not. They just see that headline and it reinforces the notion that hockey isn't for them.

To me, something like this needs to be brought up at a league meeting. This is multiple acts in a row that proves NHL teams can't govern themselves individually - the Coyotes drafted this kid, the Canadiens drafted Mailloux, and now the Bruins signed this kid. Gary made it so that he needs to approve Quenneville coming back to the league - I feel he needs to step into situations like this as well. It shouldn't be left up to individual teams.