Around the League 2021-22 Part 2

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Magic, Gretzky, Kareem, West, Shaq, Dustin Brown? Who is out of place here?
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First player in history of ANY sport to have his captaincy stripped away then receive a statue, amazing accomplishment. Also the worst modern player in his sport to ever get a statue, another amazing accomplishment.
 
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Putting a Brown statue would be like putting a Fowler statue if he finishes his career here (Brown has the Captaincy even though they pulled it from him vs. Fowler is a better player and will be for longer/longevity IMO). About even. :laugh:

They haven't gone that far yet, but I bet you can guess which Ducks source is already openly debating having his jersey retired.
 
Maybe I’m ignorant but I have no idea who would be debating that. Surely not Stephens?

CJ Woodling said they were talking about it in the Crash the Pond discord (it gives me a chance to try and dunk on them). He leans toward yes for 4 hanging in the rafters someday and it being automatic if he wins a cup because he's going to have an insurmountable lead in most franchise D categories, which is a big stretch for me. I love Cam, he's been a good soldier, but that's an honor that the franchise hasn't even given Giguere yet (despite his number unofficially being out of circulation since his retirement) who is probably the bar for non-HHOFers getting the jersey retired.
 
CJ Woodling said they were talking about it in the Crash the Pond discord (it gives me a chance to try and dunk on them). He leans toward yes for 4 hanging in the rafters someday and it being automatic if he wins a cup because he's going to have an insurmountable lead in most franchise D categories, which is a big stretch for me. I love Cam, he's been a good soldier, but that's an honor that the franchise hasn't even given Giguere yet (despite his number unofficially being out of circulation since his retirement) who is probably the bar for non-HHOFers getting the jersey retired.
He is as much of a source as anyone on HFBoards. If they give Cam Fowler a statue I'll be on here posting the same thing I am about Dustin Brown.
 
That is some hardcore lashing out from Kings fans trying to justify the Dustin Brown statue on the mainboards LOL

I just imagined them thinking to themselves how devastating it was going to be to bring up the Wild Wing statue as they high fived the Drew Doughty FatHead on the wall and then loading up their HD DVD copy of the 2012 Stanley Cup Finals.
 
That is some hardcore lashing out from Kings fans trying to justify the Dustin Brown statue on the mainboards LOL

I just imagined them thinking to themselves how devastating it was going to be to bring up the Wild Wing statue as they high fived the Drew Doughty FatHead on the wall and then loading up their HD DVD copy of the 2012 Stanley Cup Finals.

 
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Going to be hilarious when the average person walks by all the statues outside Staples and sees all the legends then sees Dustin Browns statue and walks over to see who it is.... reads "Dustin Brown" and still not know who he is :laugh:
 
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That is some hardcore lashing out from Kings fans trying to justify the Dustin Brown statue on the mainboards LOL

I just imagined them thinking to themselves how devastating it was going to be to bring up the Wild Wing statue as they high fived the Drew Doughty FatHead on the wall and then loading up their HD DVD copy of the 2012 Stanley Cup Finals.
Their defense is basically "it's not the most embarrassing thing anyone's ever done," which is a pretty bad spot to be in if that's your STARTING point.
 
They haven't gone that far yet, but I bet you can guess which Ducks source is already openly debating having his jersey retired.

CJ Woodling said they were talking about it in the Crash the Pond discord (it gives me a chance to try and dunk on them). He leans toward yes for 4 hanging in the rafters someday and it being automatic if he wins a cup because he's going to have an insurmountable lead in most franchise D categories, which is a big stretch for me. I love Cam, he's been a good soldier, but that's an honor that the franchise hasn't even given Giguere yet (despite his number unofficially being out of circulation since his retirement) who is probably the bar for non-HHOFers getting the jersey retired.

IF, and I can't bold/italicize/emphasize enough IF Cam happens to Captain the Ducks to another Stanley Cup I'd argue he'd be jersey retirement worthy as he'll likely hold a majority of franchise defenseman records to boot. A statue? No f***ing shot and I'm a huge Cam supporter.
 
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I don’t think Giguere should have his number retired. Hall of famers only or at least guys who were on track to be in the Hall at some point (Perry)
i think he will eventually since they didn't issue #35 to gibson and that's the # he had worn his entire career
 
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Games played is the only stat King fans are using..... And that he was captain (even though he was stripped of it). Definitely statue worthy.
And hits. They like to talk about how he hit a lot of people and how important that was for the two cups. More important than Kopitar’s elite two-way play, Quick playing out of his mind in goal, Doughty playing 30 minutes a night on D, or Justin Williams clutch scoring.

I don’t think Giguere should have his number retired. Hall of famers only or at least guys who were on track to be in the Hall at some point (Perry)
I think Perry is going to sneak into the Hall at some point due to his full resume and continuing to at least help teams get to the finals in his mid/late 30s. At one point before he was bought out he was definitely trending away from the Hall.
 
I don’t think Giguere should have his number retired. Hall of famers only or at least guys who were on track to be in the Hall at some point (Perry)
I always thought that was a silly standard for jersey retirements. No reason to restrict a team-specific honor to a league-wide standard. It's not even necessarily a higher standard. I mean we've had players who were better than Dick Duff but I wouldn't necessarily retire all of their jerseys. We putting Chris Kunitz up there? We could, if HHOF was the standard.
 
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I always thought that was a silly standard for jersey retirements. No reason to restrict a team-specific honor to a league-wide standard. It's not even necessarily a higher standard. I mean we've had players who were better than Dick Duff but I wouldn't necessarily retire all of their jerseys. We putting Chris Kunitz up there? We could, if HHOF was the standard.

It's not the only standard but I like that its included. Jersey retirement should be incredibly exclusive so best to make the standard as high as reasonably possible. The five we're looking at is as great of a standard as any in the league IMO.
 
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It's not the only standard but I like that its included. Jersey retirement should be incredibly exclusive so best to make the standard as high as reasonably possible. The five we're looking at is as great of a standard as any in the league IMO.

I completely agree with this. There’s no reason the newer teams in the league should have a lower standard than the likes of original 6 teams just because they don’t have as much history. Give it 50 years and every team will have had multiple elite players make an impact for them.

I’m good with 8, 9, 27, 15 and 10 being up there. 10 is possibly a bit of a stretch for me but I think it works. Would like 35 too but that’s possibly more because of nostalgia than anything.
 
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