Around the League 2020-21 Part 3, Trade Deadline Edition

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I mean that's about as serious of an admonishment of an NHL employee as I can ever remember. On the one hand, it feels like going to the principal's office to tell on someone, but on the other hand, these are businesses worth a lot of money, and this is no joke. If advertising dollars start to get involved, we'll see change.

Is Capital One excited to see Wilson going nuts with their logo on his helmet?
yeah i mean it's kinda ballsy going "we think you're wrong, what the f*** you gonna do?" but at the same time, it's standing up to the old boys club and well, they can do a lot...

then again, it's the rags, an original 6 franchise... lot of moving parts. if the league goes "f*** you, here's your fine, pay it to parros in person" do they pay it? do they refuse to play? how deep are they willing to go? i'm betting they're not willing to do anything more than release the statement and move on though
 
If this was the Kings response, we could toss it in with Bark Madness and all the other soft, lame shit that they do.

Just go out and take care of it tomorrow like hockey players used to do. Hell, they could have suspended him one game so he didn't play tomorrow like they usually do in a situation like this but he's there for the taking, as are the Caps skilled players. Just shut up and go get him.

Indefinite suspension. Horrific!!! You can like the sentiment of Parros getting dragged but the statement is ridiculous.


ooooh baby that public statement is spicy. i think it's a bitch move but i kinda respect it at the same time

can't wait to see how much they're gonna be fined and if they're willing to stick to their guns


I kind of prefer both.

I think in this case it's important for the org to stick up for their players and it's a pretty strong statement to go after a league official for failing at his job.

On the other, yeah, I'd also hope they go out there and make his life a living hell. Tough job, but put up or shut up.
 
I mean that's about as serious of an admonishment of an NHL employee as I can ever remember. On the one hand, it feels like going to the principal's office to tell on someone, but on the other hand, these are businesses worth a lot of money, and this is no joke. If advertising dollars start to get involved, we'll see change.

Is Capital One excited to see Wilson going nuts with their logo on his helmet?


Sorta. I'd say it's like standing in the middle of the school's quad accusing the principal of tacitly endorsing the jocks beating up the nerds. In any case the administration will be both pissed and embarassed.

You're absolutely right that at some point the ad dollars will be involved imo. NHL will probably publicly fine these guys but you know they don't like the appearance of weakness/not having their shit together. It's a pretty bold chess move by the Rangers there.
 
alls i know is i'm 100% watching that game tomorrow

if tom wilson isn't eating crosschecks every shift he's out there, the org's message is pretty flat
 
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Wilson is an idiot but the league is a joke right now. They call so many garbage penalties, basically if you sneeze the wrong way it's 2 min. Goons are gone and it's down to a few players who play with an edge. We don't even see solid bodychecks anymore becasue they will call it and so we see embelishments everywhere. With a rematch for these 2 teams tomorrow, back in the day, the Rangers wouldn't want Wilson suspended. The issue would of been taken care of on the ice. Now they go on twitter and social media for retribution ...lol
 
Every single time you post, you show how much of a clown you are. Your defense of Wilson is insane. Parros needs to go because of a history of terrible calls, much like Wilson deserved a suspension because of a history of terrible plays. This is just another one to add on to the pile.

I've run out of rope for Wilson. He injures multiple guys every single year. When he ends someone's career, will we be surprised? Probably not. What if it's Byfield, or Vilardi, or Bjornfot? Will we be wondering if there was anything more that could have been done?

I'm just not okay with Wilson' actions anymore. They're consistently indefensible. The league got this one wrong, bottom line.

Clutch those pearls tighter.

There are actions that draw penalties in-game with some actions being worse than others. When they rise to a certain level, there is further discipline doled out via fines and/or suspensions.

Yes, Wilson has a history of incidents that rise to that certain level but, hate to break it to you, his history is the only damn reason there was even a fine for this incident as nobody would care if it wasn't a high profile villain and a high profile superstar involved.

They can't pre-emptively kick a guy out of the league as much as you'd like them to do so. The hate Wilson crowd is a loud majority and I completely understand why as the Dryden's have won and those NHL fans that cut their teeth over the last 15 years might agree that what they witnessed last night was "horrific". Outside of saying how myself and thousands of others now actually care about tomorrow's Caps/Rangers game, I'm not here to argue about if the game is better now or not as it is obvious that us "clowns" have it wrong and "progress" is always correct.

What I will say, however, is that the NHL is a f***ing entertainment business and this sport is infinitely better when it has villains like Tom Wilson, Matthew Tkachuk, Marchand etc. Do they bring an element of risk to the health and safety of other players? Sure, but so do slapshots, Kevin Fiala and Chandler Stephenson. Can't complain much about the slapshots but did you feel warm and fuzzy about the latter two and their little suspensions with the Kings doing nothing about it? Would you have felt better if they were suspended all season since what they did was far more egregious than what we saw from Wilson last night?

What if it's Byfield, Vilardi or Bjornfot? Well that would sure suck but I can't protect every Kings player by banning every mean player from the league unless they earn it. You can argue that Wilson has already earned it if you'd like, and that's fine, but asking for it after last night's incident is highly reactionary and a submission to mob mentality.
 
I actually think it takes a set of balls to release a statement like that and shows the support they have for their player, rather than accepting the results like a bunch of chumps.

Now to see what type of retribution Wilson will face tomorrow, which by the way, is a nationally televised game on NBCSN.

Problem they have, is Quinn came out after the game, and said Panarin was fine....

So who is lying?
 
Friedman's 31 thoughts , starting on why Wilson needed stronger punishment.

31 Thoughts: Why Tom Wilson needed a stronger punishment

Also. this background to the NHL debut in net last night for 28 year old MIchael Houser
Very cool, what a moment for him, something he'll never forget.

13. It was a long, challenging road. Born with bilateral club feet, Houser had 14 surgeries by the age of two, and two more by 11. The Knights found him in 2009 playing for the Des Moines Buccaneers, a last-place team in the USHL. They needed a backup for
Michael Hutchinson; Houser was their man.

Houser was supposed to be the backup in 2010–11 to highly touted prospect Igor Bobkov, a third-round pick of the Anaheim Ducks. Instead, he ripped the job from Bobkov’s hands, and never gave it up. The following season, he played 62 of the team’s 68 games, as injuries wreaked havoc on their backup situation.

“I’d go to him and say, ‘We’ve got three games this weekend; which ones do you want to play?’” laughed Bill Dark, then the team’s goaltending coach. “He’d say, ‘All of them.’ So we’d play him in all three.”
“Here is someone who was told he shouldn’t be playing any sports,” Tinordi said. “And he played so well. It’s crazy.”
The Knights went all the way to the Memorial Cup Final, losing 2–1 in overtime to hometown Shawinigan. Houser was the CHL Goaltender of the Year and the OHL’s MVP.

There are great stories about his time there, from him seeing Wayne Gretzky at a practice and not giving up any goals while the Great One was watching, to Game 1 of the league final against Niagara. Dougie Hamilton scored for the IceDogs in double overtime, then did a somersault in celebration. It was an ugly goal, and, as an annoyed Houser left the ice, he was told he had to stay for a drug test. Fired up, he allowed just seven goals over the next four games as London won the series 4–1.
The family can’t say enough good things about how the Knights treated their son, and the bonds between players remain strong. (Rumour has it that on one vacation with his ex-London teammates, Houser got a beer company’s logo tattooed on his back.)

14. McKegg and Tinordi are now Boston Bruins. They weren’t dressed for Monday’s 3-0 win over New Jersey, “and we were paying attention through our phones,” Tinordi said.

Harrington didn’t dress for the Blue Jackets’ loss to Nashville. Did he watch Houser?
“You’re going to get me in trouble,” he laughed. “Actually, the timing was perfect. During the break before our game started overtime, I was able to see the end of Michael’s win. I haven’t been that nervous in a long time. It’s a cliché, I know, but he is the ultimate teammate and friend. He never made you feel bad for a mistake on the ice.”

As much as people loved him, it took a long time for the NHL to love him back. The 2012 Draft — right after his hugely successful season — was in Pittsburgh, where he lived. Houser didn’t attend the event, “but we had a plan that he would go to the rink when selected,” says agent Paul Capizzano.

Houser was never taken. Florida signed him as a free agent. He’s bounced around since then, mainly in the ECHL. Heading into Monday’s game, he had only two AHL appearances in the last five years and hadn’t played in any game since March 7, 2020.
“He had chances to go to Europe,” Capizzano said. “And he’d say, ‘No, I’m going to be in the NHL someday.’”

“All you ever hope is he gets a chance to play,” Bill Houser said. “I didn’t doubt it would happen. The question was how much longer would he have to wait to get a break. You never hope for injury, and there were some years he played very well, but nothing opened up in front of him. Teams would be healthy and there wasn’t anywhere to go.”

Until Buffalo in 2021. Only in this year of unpredictability and insanity could the Sabres lose Carter Hutton, Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen and Linus Ullmark. Houser and Luukkonen became the first tandem to play a full season together in the ECHL (Cincinnati, last season), then debut for the same NHL team in the same season.
Buffalo was down 2–0 midway through Monday’s game, both scores on deflections. Adam Pelech scored the first and set up the second, not easy for Capizzano — who also represents the Islander defender.

Dark was groaning while watching from home.
“Some nights, regardless of how you play, you’re not going to get the puck luck,” he said. “(Houser) wasn’t behind the play at all. He looked like he did nine years ago. There was no hint of fighting the puck.”

“He didn’t flinch,” Bill Houser said. “We were so proud. And the Sabres played really well in front of him.”
Yes, they did. Buffalo took control and charged back
Sam Reinhart scored twice to win it and clinch it. Bill, Monica and Alex Houser looked at each other and cried.
“We’ve never been so excited to see an empty-net goal in our lives,” Alex said.
“Absolutely amazing,” added his mother.
Yes. Yes, it was.
 
And this is why we have a violence problem in this country. If you can't see how smashing a helmetless skull into the ice from a standing position could lead to paralysis or death, I don't know what to tell you.



"Thawts and pRay3Rsssssss!!!"
"BigKing" already put my thoughts into better words than I could ever dream of. So I'll leave it at this:

As if Professional Hockey, or how we respond to action on the ice, has any bearing on societies problem with violence. GIVE ME A F****** BREAK.

I am born and raised Buddhist. I don't believe violence in any form. To infer this incident represents the bigger problem with our society as a whole, is well, inaccurate. But sure, continue to grandstand and assume I like and support violence lol. Wilson is a douchbag, and he probably deserved a game or two because of his past, but to act like he should be banned for half a season is laughable.
 
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What a dick move by Gostisbehere giving his former teammate Mark Friedman a check from behind into the boards on his empty net goal. Luckily he was not injured.
 
Rangers front office knowing they're getting a massive fine:

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"BigKing" already put my thoughts into better words than I could ever dream of. So I'll leave it at this:

As if Professional Hockey, or how we respond to action on the ice, has any bearing on societies problem with violence. GIVE ME A F****** BREAK.

I am born and raised Buddhist. I don't believe violence in any form. To infer this incident represents the bigger problem with our society as a whole, is well, inaccurate. But sure, continue to grandstand and assume I like and support violence lol. Wilson is a douchbag, and he probably deserved a game or two because of his past, but to act like he should be banned for half a season is laughable.
OH! You’re BUDDHIST! :eyeroll: Hitler and Pol Pot were vegetarian, who cares? Internet shout all you want, your casual attitude about someone getting their skull cracked on the ice says something about you, like it or not.
 
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The solution to Tom Wilson for the Rangers is to take runs at Kuznetzov, Backstrom, Carlson, Orlov and the caps goalie all night. It doesn’t have to be intent to injure to send a message. And if they do that it should carry over games into next season, until the emotion has played out.
 
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I shouldn’t even pay attention to NY media because it’s the biggest rag mag market in the US, but the notion Tom Wilson is some plug is absurd. He’s a very good player and would rank sixth on the Rangers in points. He regularly plays with Ovechkin, one of the greatest goal scorers of all time. You don’t put any plug with Ovechkin and there’s no way he plays with someone he doesn’t like. I disliked the first punches on the downed player more than the sequence with Panarin. I have no dog in the fight and Wilson has definitely crossed the line, but it looks like an altercation and then Panarin lost his balance and fell. Wilson was going berserk mode, but what player of his style wouldn’t? I don’t like it but some of these articles I’m reading are totally hysterical.
 
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NHL players have long memories. This will find balance later. Maybe not upfront. Maybe in an elimination game if WA is moving on ala Chris Chelios, Rox Hextall to a different player, maybe a goalie, who knows. NY doesn't have the toughness right now to take Wilson straight up so it may fall to another player. Maybe next season, but the DPS is obviously doing nothing so it goes back to the ice to settle it. Players will have to work it out.

"Everyone has a plan til they get punched in the face". -Iron Mike
 
OH! You’re BUDDHIST! :eyeroll: Hitler and Pol Pot were vegetarian, who cares? Internet shout all you want, your casual attitude about someone getting their skull cracked on the ice says something about you, like it or not.
No it doesn't. It says more about you for making broad assumptions about somebody over an internet debate. I wish the best man. You clearly have some unresolved issues to work out. But I aint going to let you work them out on me. Pain is unavoidable,suffering is self created. Your over reaction to the play, and my posts are clear indicators that you're making life more difficult for yourself by judging others. Take some deep breaths.
 
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