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Around the League 2020-21 part 2 *Insert funny thread title here* edition

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YP44 said:
Except this has been two season of Seabrook trying to play through injury. He is a warrior, and this one 100% seems legit to me..
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Seabrook had shoulder and hip surgeries last year after his season ended and it seems the hips were the major issue



I think if it was just the shoulders he would have continued to try and play thru but with the hip surgeries and this information it really doesn't seem it was at all possible for him to continue on
 
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Herby said:
They were both legit, and anyone who says otherwise is clueless, especially with Hossa.

The piece by Scott Powers in The Athletic on Hossa was eye-opening, the guy was suffering from a severe form of eczema that made it impossible for him to play hockey anymore without greatly effecting his overall health and quality of life. Maybe this is personal to me because I have a daughter who also suffers from pretty severe eczema and it's lame to hear people minimize just what Hossa was going through on a daily basis to try and play hockey or insinuating he and Chicago were lying so Chicago could clear Hossa's pretty minimal cap hit from the books. The guy was making barely over $5m and was scoring at about a 30G, 50P pace his final year while being one of the better two-way wingers in the league.
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I'm sure the Hawks wanted him to keep playing. The real question is if Hossa wanted to. Look at the contract he signed and guess which year the eczema problem became too much for him to continue? I mean I'm not saying him and the Hawks cooked the whole thing up but I don't think it's outlandish to have at least some skepticism about the timing of it all.

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Not gonna throw stones in a glass house though. The Kings have some shady contract stuff of their own.
 
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Throw stones. Hossa situation was complete manipulation. And so is the Seabrook situation. Masterful ways of getting out of bad contracts by an original 6 team that is the NHL darling. While all the others have to play by the rules...
 
Toews has a strange malady as well. Guess the Blackhawks will be getting out of that contract soon.
 
RaymondReddington said:
Throw stones. Hossa situation was complete manipulation. And so is the Seabrook situation. Masterful ways of getting out of bad contracts by an original 6 team that is the NHL darling. While all the others have to play by the rules...
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Ehhh,

I don't know about that last part. What the Kings did to Mike Richards to create cap space was probably more appalling than anything any team has done in regards to cap circumvention. If any other player on the Kings had done what he did they would not have been terminated.

I've never been so disappointed and disgusted by anything the Kings ever did, it was an embarrassment.

Speaking of that, If I were Erik Karlsson I wouldn't let Doug Wilson anywhere near my luggage.
 
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mbar said:
I'm so happy that Sutter is back behind the bench I'm really tempted to buy the NHL package to follow the Flames the rest of the year. I just love everything about Daryl Sutter.
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yeah as much as it hurts, i'm kind of in the same boat

sutterpuck is so love/hate i think i'm probably being tainted by the nostalgia a bit, but daryl's a stud and i respect the hell out of him
 
Maynard said:
Because Sutter knows all about Doughty and how he gets rattled. He’s aware of Drew’s long history of whining and acting like an actual child when he’s frustrated. To Drew’s credit he seems to be doing less of that this season but there’s no doubt in my mind that Sutter would to try and throw Drew off his game.
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You left out the part where lastly he gets pissed and will totally take over the game. Sutter ain't stupid.
 
DryIslandBartender said:
The Michael Cammaleri special.
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I hope Calgary ends up with something better than a German league defender with that 1st round pick.

In all honestly, I could see Lombardi going somewhere and completing something that had the places in place, specifically a dominant center already in house. I think he'd be better off going north on Queen Elizabeth Highway. I think he could add the right pieces to what they have. Not sure it's going to work in Calgary.
 
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Herby said:
I hope Calgary ends up with something better than a German league defender with that 1st round pick.

In all honestly, I could see Lombardi going somewhere and completing something that had the places in place, specifically a dominant center already in house. I think he'd be better off going north on Queen Elizabeth Highway. I think he could add the right pieces to what they have. Not sure it's going to work in Calgary.
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Yeah, but he wouldn't be getting Draistl and McDavid on discount contracts like he did with Kopitar. Still, I would like to see Dean get a chance to put the right pieces in place in Edmonton.

A lot of work to do to shore up the defense and goaltending in Edmonton.
 
KINGS17 said:
Yeah, but he wouldn't be getting Draistl and McDavid on discount contracts like he did with Kopitar. Still, I would like to see Dean get a chance to put the right pieces in place in Edmonton.

A lot of work to do to shore up the defense and goaltending in Edmonton.
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True, but his major achilles heel both in LA and SJ was evaluating skilled players, you have two consensus superstar forwards in Edmonton so that problem is non-existent. If anything those two making so much would prevent some of the nonsense we saw in LA such as acquiring "high character" overpaid jokes like Smyth and Lucic.

I think the build from the net out stuff only worked to a point with the Kings, you need skilled players, the Kings didn't win until they added a bunch of skilled players in Carter, Gaborik and Richards. With the skill in house I think he could find his goaltenders and defenseman to compliment those guys.

I don't think Calgary has that championship caliber forward on the level of Anze, and history says that DL is probably not going to be able to draft and develop that kind of player. Unless he has done a 180 on his philosophy. I think a lot of teams may feel the same way, and that is why teams may have stayed away for so long. Edmonton is a diff situation though.
 
Herby said:
True, but his major achilles heel both in LA and SJ was evaluating skilled players, you have two consensus superstar forwards in Edmonton so that problem is non-existent. If anything those two making so much would prevent some of the nonsense we saw in LA such as acquiring "high character" overpaid jokes like Smyth and Lucic.

I think the build from the net out stuff only worked to a point with the Kings, you need skilled players, the Kings didn't win until they added a bunch of skilled players in Carter, Gaborik and Richards. With the skill in house I think he could find his goaltenders and defenseman to compliment those guys.

I don't think Calgary has that championship caliber forward on the level of Anze, and history says that DL is probably not going to be able to draft and develop that kind of player. Unless he has done a 180 on his philosophy. I think a lot of teams may feel the same way, and that is why teams may have stayed away for so long. Edmonton is a diff situation though.
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Your first paragraph is a fair point. As a GM, Dean has a the acumen to fill the holes in Edmonton's lineup quite well. Adding grit, leadership, defense, and goaltending are all right up his alley.
 
In his presser Sutter mentioned that he would only come back to coach in two cities and one was Calgary. I wonder if LA was the other one or not.
 
The contract shenanigans are what they are--but guys that are longtime nhlers retiring I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt because you know they don't want to really stop playing (even if only getting paid a million).

The ones I don't like were the Kane LTIR to come back for the playoffs and the same thing that's inevitably happening with Kucherov in TB today.
 
Herby said:
I hope Calgary ends up with something better than a German league defender with that 1st round pick.

In all honestly, I could see Lombardi going somewhere and completing something that had the places in place, specifically a dominant center already in house. I think he'd be better off going north on Queen Elizabeth Highway. I think he could add the right pieces to what they have. Not sure it's going to work in Calgary.
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Holland has done a descent job since tkaing over
 
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