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The Tikkanen said:
Cause he was another scoop of vanilla ice cream on top of a bowl of vanilla ice cream. The Kings have a redundancy problem with players skill sets and personalities, too many of the same old sam old.
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And that goes straight to Lombardi's drafting agenda. Why draft guy with skill who can score, when you can draft great character guys with little to no upside... draft after draft after draft.
 
crassbonanza said:
Leafs lost again and are now sitting in 12th place in the Eastern Conference and have a negative goal differential. They have a game tomorrow and will be relying on a rookie goaltender to stem the tide. It's actually quite impressive how Dubas has seemed to utterly **** up at every single opportunity. He took over a young team that had just put up 105 points and gone to 7 games against the Bruins in the playoffs. He had a number 1 center, number 1 winger, another top line winger, a number 1 defenseman, number 1 goalie and a slew of complimentary players.

His first season included handing out the then most second most expensive contract in the league to Tavares even though the team was already second in the league in GF. This contract led to them losing a significant amount of depth and having a new benchmark set for his young players.

Failing to lock up M and M when he could, this one was probably his biggest ****up.

Waiving the reliable backup that the coach trusted in favor of his guy from the Marlies. Sparks ended up only winning 8 of 17 games and posting a .902 save percentage, he was replaced by the end of the year.

Having a contract standoff with Nylander until the very last moment before giving in. This led to Nylander essentially missing the whole season because he never got back up to speed.

Trading a 1st and 2 good prospects for Muzzin. Probably the right idea, but holding onto young, cost controlled assets is kind of crucial when you have no cap space.

Trading Par Lindholm for Nic Petan. not really a huge trade, but completely went against what his coach was asking for. Trading a solid defensive minded center for a smallish offensive guy seems kind of pointless.

Handing out the second most expensive contract to Matthews and only buying 2 UFA years. Probably the worst contract handed out to a RFA and what made it worse is there was absolutely no pressure to do it at the time.

That team ended up finishing with 100 points, 5 points less than the year prior. They were only 2 points away from missing the playoff altogether.

His second season includes trading a gritty, defensive center(who has shown 30+ goal capability) locked up on a sweetheart contract for a smallish, offensive minded defenseman(despite finishing 2nd in the league in GF the year prior).

Trading a 1st round pick to get out of 1 season of Marleau's cap hit.

Having another prolonged contract dispute with Marner, leading to animosity before eventually caving to give him 10.8x6, again unable to even buyout the max UFA years.

Start the season with Hutchinson as the backup goaltender who proceeds to lose all 5 games he starts and ends up being waived.

It honestly feels like he has ****ed up damn near every move he made and now the team is on pace for 86 points and we are nearing Thanksgiving. They are completely ****ed capwise because they have already utilized the LTIR to go over the cap with Horton/Clarkson, so there is no real possibility to improve the team. How he has gotten such a pass is beyond me.
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What a mess, and for what...nothing. We, like Chicago are paying for our cups with our current problems, the Leafs can't even get by Boston in the 2nd round.They have no money to sign Muzzin next season and others too.
 
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kingsfan28 said:
And that goes straight to Lombardi's drafting agenda. Why draft guy with skill who can score, when you can draft great character guys with little to no upside... draft after draft after draft.
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I assume you are talking about forwards

Moller = undersized, scoring upside, not a character player
Simmonds = obvious upside, moderate character
Loktionov = scoring upside, not a character player
Schenn = obvious upside and a character player
Vey = scoring upside, not a character player
Toffoli = scoring upside, not a character player
Weal = scoring upside, not a character player
Pearson = scoring upside, not a character player
Brodzinski = scoring upside, not a character player
Prokhorkin = scoring upside, not a character player
Kempe = scoring upside, not a character player

I don't think any of these guys fit that mold, really. I think it has to do more with where they were drafting. I don't really count 2006 as he had minimal time to prepare, but from 2007 until the 2016 draft they had 2 top 10 picks, that's it. They only had 7 first rounders, and 2 of those were picks 29 and 30.

I think character was a tiebreaker of sorts with DL, but it wasn't all he drafted for. I think his major weakness was identifying skill forwards because he whiffed on almost all that he took.
 
I probably should've said in later drafts, and not been so general . But his philosophy changed right around 2010-2012. All he seemed to do is draft plugs. We had so many 3rd, 4th liners in Manchester/Ontario , nobody really could come in and do anything. Even guys with skill were told to play defense first and scared the skill right out of them.Look what happened to Weal, he didn't backcheck good enough on a shift and Sutter benched him for 10 games.

I do disagree on character, DL seem to make this a priority during draft interviews. Unfortunately characters guy tend not to score very much.
 
The Tikkanen said:
There are suite tickets to the Knights-Kings game right now for $27. Season ticket sales for next season will set an all time low record.
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never understood those suite tickets, are you gonna be in a suite with a bunch of random people? why would you have a suite if you need to split it with randoms? or is it just some rich dude that isn't gonna go? why would he need the money?
 
tny760 said:
never understood those suite tickets, are you gonna be in a suite with a bunch of random people? why would you have a suite if you need to split it with randoms? or is it just some rich dude that isn't gonna go? why would he need the money?
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Leg room.

And you may meet some fun folks... ?
 
tny760 said:
never understood those suite tickets, are you gonna be in a suite with a bunch of random people? why would you have a suite if you need to split it with randoms? or is it just some rich dude that isn't gonna go? why would he need the money?
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Great views, leg room, quick concession/beer access, etc.

Companies/individuals treat seats like us peons treat season seats, if you're not going to use it for a game, why not?
 
yeah i mean i'm not gonna argue the amenities it just seems like a lot of money to reserve one that you're not gonna use/fill with your event, and i figure if you're not gonna use it, you've got the money to not care if its empty. it's moreso i'm just wondering where the seller is coming from in selling it

like i sat in some PR seats once with these 2 frat boys that were just using daddy's seats he uses for clients and they sold the 3rd for beer money which totally makes sense to me, i guess the suite is just that on another level
 
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Wait, the other goalie skated all the way down the other end and there wasn't a goalie fight?

As of right now, 5 of the bottom 11 teams in the league are from the Pacific. Only one of them has a Cup in the last decade.
 
what this game needs today is a Gordie Howe. If you pulled that shit with him he'd put your ass down, maybe not right at the moment but you damn well knew it was coming. And it did. MT is a punk and unless somebody teaches him he's never gonna learn.
 
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