Ziggy Stardust
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Supposedly guys like Pearson and Toffoli were supposed to be next in line to succeed him, but sadly, they haven't elevated themselves to that level.
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Supposedly guys like Pearson and Toffoli were supposed to be next in line to succeed him, but sadly, they haven't elevated themselves to that level.
deeshamrock
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He's the Kings old news. And the team he plays for now, is not that situation. He's providing leadership to a young team from a guy , a vet player, who has been thru those wars. For them, he's the perfect choice for the C, at this time.
You can move on, I'm a hockey fan, and enjoying the ride. I've watched him this year and he is a difference maker.
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
Exactly, and he's the type of character who brought in a different mindset to a team that was used to losing. Just look at the growth in attendance now in Carolina and how many young players are flourishing there. Can't overlook that type of contribution from a captain. Williams has me rooting for Hurricanes to succeed.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Speaking of Pearson...17 goals this season.
Don't care if 8 of them are recent. That still feels like 8 more than most of the roster.
Trade was stupid when it happened. Then it looked cool because the Kings were out of a contract. Now he has 17 goals on the year and how much does his contract hurt when they are going to suck anyways?
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
I don't think Pearson sticking around was going to make a lick of difference. He had stagnated here and even Pittsburgh viewed him as an expendable player. With him gone, there's room for Grundstrom to compete for a top six role next season.
I tend to agree here. Makes me just wish that LA would have got more for him. Hard to get something for someone who was struggling as badly as he was though
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Not for this team's record. Point is that many thought he sold low at the time. Then that changed when he continued to struggle. Now he's sitting at 17 goals and I imagine Vancouver is very, very happy to have him and for the price they paid.
Regardless, Grundstrom could compete for that spot anyways.
We are a tire fire so I'm not sad about it, but I thought it was a lowest value sale at the time and it probably will turn out that way. Just found it interesting that nobody had mentioned his goal total now, although we were getting updates all the time back when he had low goal totals.
KingsFan7824
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Ok, but he didn't even want to stay. Unless he could've been offered some crazy amount of money that he just couldn't turn down. He chose to leave for family reasons.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I'm more laughing at the "Pearson isn't even an NHLer" quotes than anything.
Also a bit bitter that someone could have made the playoffs this year with so few points when we got perfect storm'ed out of them in 2015.
Also a bit bitter that someone could have made the playoffs this year with so few points when we got perfect storm'ed out of them in 2015.
Choralone
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Moving Pearson was the right call. I don't care what he's doing now for his third team this season. The team was putrid, the roster had to be shaken up, and he was actually movable.
2011: Technically the Devils won and moved up from #8 to #4. The Oilers as the worst team had something like a 48.2% chance of retaining the pick.
2012: Oilers won from the #2 spot with an 18.8% chance. Unfortunately their prize was Nail Yakupov.
2015: Oilers from the #3 spot with an 11.5% chance.
2017: Devils won from the #5 spot with an 8.5% chance.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
The team was putrid afterwards as well.
I'm just bringing it up because many on here wanted him to keep sucking to justify giving a guy away that would have fetched a better return one month prior.
Now he is at 17 goals. Might just be a flukey streak and he still hasn't had a good year, but his shooting percentage is now back to what it was prior to last year's dip and he'll probably be back to his 40 points and 15-20 next season.
Pearson needed to go to a 3rd team to start playing well. Pittsburgh wanted no part of him. It was a classic case of him needing to find the environment to make it work.
King'sPawn
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I was okay with the Kings trading Pearson. I was not okay with trading Pearson for a 30 year-old pending UFA ( who subsequently got hurt).
bouncesonly
Registered User
I thought Kings couldn't afford him (didn't he get 3.5 mil from the caps?)....so if he didn't want to stay that means he didn't want to stay on what would have been an eventual downfall for less pay. If the decision was exclusively up to Williams, I say he made the right decision.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
I get it guys, I really do.
But he has 17 goals now. People were saying he'd be out of the league shortly.
But he has 17 goals now. People were saying he'd be out of the league shortly.
I’m wondering if PIT had kept him if they would have sent him down this year because he was absolutely terrible there. That trade really saved him.
KingsFan7824
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If Williams was willing to come back for 1 year at $3m, there's likely no Lucic.
It was a bit of both. The Kings couldn't afford to make it worth it to Williams to not go back to the east coast, and Williams/his wife wanted to go back to the east coast. He got to go to a contender for a couple years, and then back to where he made his first real name for himself, and will probably end up retiring in the general area. He's free to make whatever choice he wants, but I'm just saying he was on the 14-15 team that started this whole slide into irrelevance. Most of the real leaders from 2012-2014 were. Regehr, Greene, Stoll, all still there. Leadership only takes you so far, which is what Lombardi finally figured out when he traded for some actual talent in Carter and Gaborik. So often Lombardi tried to be smarter than everyone, especially come draft day.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Well props to Tanner for turning his season around, but when 2 teams basically give up on you in the same season it's a pretty big red flag. He has 3 more years and a ton of money owed to him so out of the league might be a stretch but his career was certainly trending massively downward.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Yeah. I'm not sad, but it was poor asset management. Good for Tanner to turn his season around to where he'd be the 3rd leading goal scorer on this trash team.
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Speaking of former asset. Cernak now has more PP goals than Kopitar and almost as many goals as Doughty.
Sleeping Dog
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I think the Pens had worse asset management than the King’s on this trade. They pick up Pearson for Hagelin, retaining $250k of his contract to even up the salary swap. They ship Tanner off to VAN for Gudbranson and his $4M contract for two more seasons after this one. Nucks were happy to dump him for a gamble on Pearson.
Kings got a 3rd and conditional 6th for Hags. Getting Pearson’s contract off our books was a huge win for Blake. It almost covers Drew’s increase. If also opened up a slot for one of our young players that we need playing at those lower cap hits.
I liked Pearson, but am very satisfied with how this went down.
Ziggy Stardust
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