Ziggy Stardust
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The hockey world is seeing just how much this Vegas team loves to dive, and they are completely falling apart. Completely stupid hit by McNabb. I'm glad to see them getting embarrassed.
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kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
It as if Vegas reverted to Duck mode in the final 2 min. Cheap shots left and right, McNabb only getting 2 min for boarding, yet Oshie got a 10 min misconduct for skating around afterwards. The refs lost control of the game in the end.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
Man, they really don't like being on the losing side do they?
Where have we seen this before [ cough, cough, Anaheim]
Sol
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I've never indirectly hated a team as much as Vegas.
All the way from their coach to their players.
Gallant may be a good coach, but he will always have the mind of a loser. Just like the Knights. They played well this season, but when it came to it, the heart of losers with zero sportsmanship.
All the way from their coach to their players.
Gallant may be a good coach, but he will always have the mind of a loser. Just like the Knights. They played well this season, but when it came to it, the heart of losers with zero sportsmanship.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
DryIslandBartender
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DoktorJeep
Luc and Rob are a waste of time and money.
Real happy to see the Caps close to their first cup and Vegas finally getting shut down. McNabb was brain dead tonight and Marchessault was a real baby.
SettlementRichie10
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This is baseless nonsense.
Gallant took a group of castoffs and turned them into fantastic finals team. That’s more than the Kings could do with their ten trillion dollar lineup.
Now Vegas is going through the ringer against a superior opponent, and Gallant has “the mind of a loser”? Where do you come up with this tripe? Everyone gets chippy when they’re being blown out, including the Kings. And don’t forget Captain Embellisher himself Dustin Brown. Your lack of self awareness is mind blowing.
I’m sure you’re one of the geniuses who thought the Knights were a joke at the expansion draft, but now wants the rules changed for Seattle.
Sol
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Your poor reading comprehension failed you yet again.
I said I'm sure he's a good coach but his incessant whining and lack of composure is apparent when his team is losing which is why his team is skating around trying to fight while the caps are scoring on them.
I'm sure Gallant made W. Karlsson score 40+ goals.
A new team of cast offs with something to prove and Florida getting bent. He's accomplished nothing significant since this year. Your hard on for an over achieving team is pathetic. Please save face and don't reply with your usual pseudo-intellectual baseless assumptions. Weird for someone who tries to act as smart as you do to make as many assumptions as you do.
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KingsFan7824
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Connolly had 0 goals in 7 games last year, but 6 in 23 this year. Eller, 0 in 13 last year, 6 in 23 this year. Teams that go deep get production from throughout their lineup, and depth players that produce tend to be on teams that go deep. Which comes first? One year they do it, the next year they don't. Smith-Pelly has 11 goals in his last 118 regular season games. He has 6 goals in 23 playoff games this year. One is 7.6 goals over 82 games, the other is 21.4 over 82. That's the kind of thing that happens when you get to within a win of the Cup. Unexpected production. Above and beyond production.
deeshamrock
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That would be the lowest its' been in years...
That would be the lowest its' been in years...
DryIslandBartender
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Um, what do you want gallant to say after a total drubbing? Lol.
I don’t like Vegas at all but Gallant is just sticking up for his guys, trying to change the focus from the beating they got to how the referee missed a few calls and trying to get favorable calls for game 5. Every coach does it, heck John Stevens did it in the first round after just about every game.
lexlavender
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Gallant is a pro at gamesmanship, he practically single-handedly got Doughty suspended for game 2 with his post game quotes.
The Tikkanen
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It will be very interesting to see if Vegas' UFA's return this July. Will NHL players with families choose Vegas long term or will they use their offensive system to boost their numbers and bolt for "traditional" hockey markets?
Ziggy Stardust
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It's a good question, the lack of state tax will certainly benefit them in-terms of the players they already have. However, the downside to success, even if you don't win in the end, is the cap just hammers you. Not only do they have to deal with Neal, Perron, Karlsson, Miller and Theodore this summer (and we've talked that to death), they will also probably try to extend MAF and Nate Schmidt, we know that won't be cheap.
SettlementRichie10
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Why don’t you stop speaking out of both sides of your mouth? Is Gallant a good coach, or has he “not accomplished anything significant” because he has “the mind of a loser”?
You don’t seem to know yourself amidst all the incomprehensible non-sequitars. If you don’t understand what that means, I apologize for employing such elitist pseudo-intellectualism.
Why don’t you articulate a coherent thought first. Then we’ll debate it.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Never forget them pulling Carrier from the game and immediately calling him day-to-day before reinserting him into the lineup once Drew was officially suspended.
KingTrouty
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KINGS17
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The players are going to get a refund of 3.5% on the 11.5% escrow they paid the entire season for the first time in a long time, if not the first time period.
deeshamrock
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In addition to what King17 said, this article spells out what the current CBA (players get 50% of the revenue) holds for CAP, escrow and the escalator and how it affects the players salaries. (article was written prior to LeBrun's tweet today)
The NHL projects the HRR (Hockey Related Revnue) prior to the year upcoming. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, like a few years ago when the Canadian Dollar plummeted. And the players had to sacrifice a good chunk of that to cover the losses by the NHL.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...ther-teams-free-agent-frenzy.2365737/page-228
"Escrow is where each party puts a percentage of their revenue aside to cover the variables. Think of it as a locked-in savings account. At the end of the season, it has to be paid back to the party that’s owed, and it is paid back with interest. The percentage is calculated by a very complex system that I don’t quite understand. To makes things easy for my scenarios, I’m just going to use 15%. In reality, it is adjusted quarterly, based on league revenue projections, plus the escalator. To look at escrow history, click here. "
This is an example the author used of how much money from a players contract does he actually get and how escrow is a part of that
"Just for fun I thought we’d take a look at Connor McDavid’s contract. It’s an 8-year, 100 Million dollar deal. How much of that is he actually going to get? If we assume he’s losing close to 15% of it every year to escrow, it’s $85M, take away the 3% agent fee and the damn near 50% in taxes, and he’s probably only getting $40M over the course of that deal. It’s accepted that there’s nothing these players can do about taxes. Well, almost nothing, but these escrow payments are a huge extra tax that many players didn’t know they would have to be paying. It’s a strange world when GMs want a higher cap than the players, but it’s planting all the seeds for the next lockout. "
KingTrouty
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Thank you Dee and K17. Lowest it's been since 2011-12 when 8.5% withheld, 8.0% refunded, and before that it was 2009-10 with 4.1% and 3.0%, respectively. Interesting stuff. That reddit Radulov state tax link was interesting debate, too, Dee.
KINGS17
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