Around the League '15-'16: New Years Edition

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Minnesota I could see slumping a bit, but I'm perplexed by Nashville. They have some great parts there. They added a really good player and already had a formidable back end and great goalie. Can't figure out why the wheels have fallen off, their style and roster is built for stability.

Rinne is probably having the worst season of his career. His sv% is .902, and the only other time it's been that low was 13-14 when he was hurt most of the year. All that, and Nashville is giving up the 2nd fewest shots in the league. 2nd in the Corsi stuff behind the Kings. He's just not saving enough shots. It might be the same issue as the Kings had last year. Don't give up a ton of chances, but when you do, they're too good.

Plus they've got 4 guys with double digit goal totals, and 2 of them are defensemen. Which is one reason why they traded for Johansen.

Look at the standings closely. The Pacific isn't that far off from the Central at all, especially in the middle of the pack. And the Kings already have a large number of games in hand on all those teams (2 on Dallas, 4 on Chicago, and 5 on St. Louis).

That's what I meant. All year it's been the Central, it's 5, 6, even 7 teams deep. The playoff system should be changed because the Pacific maybe deserves 1 team. Maybe it should be changed for other reasons, but that's a different topic. They started the year really hot, and a lot of the Pacific teams didn't. Not that the Pacific is great overall, but, some of those teams in the Central are coming back down to Earth a bit.
 
I'm not as worried about the Ducks. Their goal differential is awful and their spot in their division currently is appropriate. San Jose should wind up at #2 in the division, followed by whichever of Phoenix, Vancouver or Anaheim sucks least.

I am worried about the ducks..Yes their goal differential is ****, but that is due to the fact they cannot score and sucked the beginning of the year. They are starting to turn it up and I could see them striking on all cylinders come playoff time.
The way their team is trending it reminds me of 2012. Team struggling to get goals, should be in the playoffs but will likely just get in.
 
That's what I meant. All year it's been the Central, it's 5, 6, even 7 teams deep. The playoff system should be changed because the Pacific maybe deserves 1 team. Maybe it should be changed for other reasons, but that's a different topic. They started the year really hot, and a lot of the Pacific teams didn't. Not that the Pacific is great overall, but, some of those teams in the Central are coming back down to Earth a bit.

I guess you are missing my point. You are right that the Central is coming back down to earth, but the Pacific teams are rising. In the end, 4 teams from each division will go, and it will be a lot closer to looking at a mirror between the two divisions.
 
Because of all the backlash the NHL got for that ridiculous trade it engineered.

Amateur hour at 1185 Avenue of the Americas.

that is the conspiracy view on it and it maybe right. However in his 30 thoughts friedman says that the league wanted Maloney to wait till after the all star game to make the trade.
I think I will believe Freidman.
 
that is the conspiracy view on it and it maybe right. However in his 30 thoughts friedman says that the league wanted Maloney to wait till after the all star game to make the trade.
I think I will believe Freidman.

I like Friedman and am inclined to believe him.

I am not a conspiracy theorist at all, but this trade was absolutely ridiculous. And if the league wanted Maloney to wait, why didn't he?

Oh yeah, I posted elsewhere where I considered Maloney a moron for not going after Khudobin when Smith went down with an injury. In hindsight, he looks smart now for sticking with Domingue, but Khudobin would have been insurance at the time.

So maybe Maloney is a moron after all that doesn't follow the league's advice. Just seemed like way too much a coincidence, given the embarrassment this has caused the league and everyone involved.
 
I like Friedman and am inclined to believe him.

I am not a conspiracy theorist at all, but this trade was absolutely ridiculous. And if the league wanted Maloney to wait, why didn't he?

Oh yeah, I posted elsewhere where I considered Maloney a moron for not going after Khudobin when Smith went down with an injury. In hindsight, he looks smart now for sticking with Domingue, but Khudobin would have been insurance at the time.

So maybe Maloney is a moron after all that doesn't follow the league's advice. Just seemed like way too much a coincidence, given the embarrassment this has caused the league and everyone involved.

in his 30 thoughts Freiedman does talk a bit about why Maloney did not wait. he mentions how he did not want Downie and Scott both down in the AHL, and how some coyote teammates were not happy that Scott was the representative (Maloney denied this).
So who knows why Maloney did not want to wait. Could just be because this deal was a fleecing and he did not want to look a gift horse in the mouth or risk any player in the deal getting injured.
 
It says a decent amount in context, especially in relationship to your team and teammates.

What it tells me is exactly what I see every time I see them play--he's an elite offensive defenseman that has defensive lapses aplenty.

Ottawa as a team is -12, so you wouldn't expect many of their players to be good there. However, Karlsson's usual partner is Methot, who is +6. His newest on and off partner is Claesson, so that hurts--and he's a -8. They're on a suck streak in that regard, so his is obviously dinged, but if you're going to call a guy the best all around d-man in the game, he can't be -1 when he has teammates (including d-men) that are +6, 5, 8, and 14 on the same team. And that's with his extremely offensive deployment (not tired from the PK--getting steadily fed 5v5 time and all the PP a guy can handle) so he's getting to pad his stats while getting the "boo hoo he's tired he can't be expected to carry his team defensively too" treatment from all the apologists.

To be fair I didn't see tonight's game so for all I know it's -3 the same way Doughty was vs. the first Ottawa game where McNabb ****ing fell down and a slowass changeup went thru Quick so who knows. All I know is that if you put up 47 points but you're still a 5v5 minus it's hard to argue you're having a statistically large positive impact on your team's chances to win despite being a high-CF% player. He still only has a 50% GF%, 8th on the Sens.

The thing is, those stats defy the eye test to a small degree, because I think he has a greater offensive impact than the points actually show--not in the sense that he should have more points, but that he's doing more throughout the game to generate offense (hence the high CF%). And he's usually decent defensively but he his breakdowns are so, so visible because they're judgment lapses and soft play in front of his own net, so honestly, he's like a microcosm of last year's Kings--drive play lots, but if you give up a chance, give up a gnarly one.

Not even going to dive deep into his GA and GA/60 again but he's still given up the most 5v5 goals in the league and his GA/60 is 167th out of 187 d-men who have played 300 or more minutes this year.


Yuuuup pretty much sums it up. No argument here. Karlsson looked tired against the Sharks looked like he's been playing way too many minutes. They praise him for the amount of minutes he plays but if Sens are smart they would at least try to reduce his minutes. Some games he's just brutal. Or maybe that's just who he is.
 
Yuuuup pretty much sums it up. No argument here. Karlsson looked tired against the Sharks looked like he's been playing way too many minutes. They praise him for the amount of minutes he plays but if Sens are smart they would at least try to reduce his minutes. Some games he's just brutal. Or maybe that's just who he is.

i agree but must admit I praised Drew for his minutes last year. I am glad he is not playing as much this year.
 
i agree but must admit I praised Drew for his minutes last year. I am glad he is not playing as much this year.

It's pretty clear that 30 minutes Drew is hit or miss; some games he'll give 30 good minutes, but you can tell some games he rests out there (I remember games last year when he was bent over his stick for the whole 3rd period), especially if he KNOWS it is coming, and more often than not he'll give 27-28 good minutes and 2 WTF minutes.

Karlsson isn't that different. He's getting all sorts of weird praise on one hand (WHAT AN ATHLETE WHO ELSE CAN MATCH HIM PLAYING 34 MINUTES) and then all sorts of excuses on another (HOW CAN A GUY PLAYING 34 MINUTES BE EXPECTED TO BE GOOD ON D THE WHOLE TIME). Karlsson and Suter are much more efficient than Doughty imo, DD goes crashing and banging everywhere and I wouldn't have it any other way. Suter is a master energy conserver and Karlsson has an effortless stride and tries to stay up at speed, so he stays fresh by avoiding stop-and-gos in the corners/boards/on defense.
 
i agree but must admit I praised Drew for his minutes last year. I am glad he is not playing as much this year.

And the next D-man with the most minutes on ice was not Karlsson, but Suter. Funny how they want to pump Karlsson's tires (some of it deserved, I will admit), but barely any mention of Suter's efficiency.
 
And the next D-man with the most minutes on ice was not Karlsson, but Suter. Funny how they want to pump Karlsson's tires (some of it deserved, I will admit), but barely any mention of Suter's efficiency.

Maybe it's because I follow the kings religiously and Doughty is Canadian but I think suter maybe more underrated than Drew. I sure hear him mentioned way less.
 
Maybe it's because I follow the kings religiously and Doughty is Canadian but I think suter maybe more underrated than Drew. I sure hear him mentioned way less.

It's not just you. He's quietly having a great year.

It's too bad they couldn't have given the Conn Smythe to the coach. Sutter's line juggling and strategy employed during the 2014 playoffs were pure genius, and were principally the reason they were able to outlast Chicago in the WCF.
 
Really glad to hear this.

I might just have to watch the All-Star game this year just to see this big pile of junk try to skate up and down with the boys. LOL. Maybe when he's on the ice they'll just have him stand next to the goalie and try to block some shots. This is gonna be hilarious.
 
I think Sutter should play Scott as a d-man and use Doughty as a forward. Leave his slow ass in their own end.
 
He's baaackk....

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I really hope they let him participate in the skills competition.

Some people (though not as much on this board) are acting like John Scott and the fans have sullied the integrity of some historic event. It's the all star game...WGAF?
 
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