Sore Loser
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Can't disagree there. They played a great first period. After that ... not so much.
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Can't disagree there. They played a great first period. After that ... not so much.
Matthew
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Sore Loser
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Like already
+1...
Hated the guy as a player. Always thought him a pretentious, self humiliating, overrated ****. The worst part for me, is that the Avalanche fans I know keep defending him and justifying his every move. I always knew there was a reason I hated the Avalanche, just never really realized that it was because of Patrick Waaaaa.
ROFL. You know I find Crosby to be some of what you described, but I would never call him overrated.
Honestly, I find Roy refreshing and entertaining. I know I will be in the vast minority. At the same time, Boudreau's comments were pretty classless. Typical "listen to me rookie" comments. The more and more I see of Boudreau the less I like him.
Roy is going to have his flareups, but didn't he somehow manage to coach for like 6 or 7 seasons before this gig? If he really was that much of a problem all the time, I don't think he would have this job.
I so loved taunting Roy and I love that he's in the league so I can taunt him some more. I love strong personalities unless you are a hockey legend that dresses like a clown.
Personally for me it's seeming to be that Roy lost his **** - and oh yeah there was a hockey game. He's the only focus here when, to my mind, the focus should probably be on the team. Just my opinion and mileage may vary and all that.
The problem with Roy's antics is it sends the wrong message to the players. Passion is one thing, but how do you expect your players to keep their cool and not take a stupid penalty that could cost you when you cant keep your cool yourself. I dont have a problem with the yelling, but when youre banging on the divider like a lunatic, your players will start to act the same way
Roy is a vile human being. I hope (and think) he fails miserably.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2008/03/25/patrick-roy-and-son/232/
http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2008/03/25/patrick-roy-and-son/232/
EspenK
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Ranger fans already down on Nash. 
Check out their post game thread. Starts about on pg 5
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1508901&page=5
Check out their post game thread. Starts about on pg 5http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1508901&page=5
JKinCLE
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Ranger fans already down on Nash.
he showed up with about 2 minutes to go in a laughable fight with handzal, however he was pretty ineffective in that as well. If you're gonna start a fight, at least bring the intensity.
Sore Loser
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The one for me is watching his kid - on the junior team he coached - pummel a player who refused to defend himself, and then watching Roy and his son defend their actions.
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Ranger fans already down on Nash.
he showed up with about 2 minutes to go in a laughable fight with handzal, however he was pretty ineffective in that as well. If you're gonna start a fight, at least bring the intensity.
Nash even floats when he fights.......................
FANonymous
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Nash even floats when he fights.......................
Well at least he got the "Float like a butterfly" part down.
mt-svk
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I follow KHL and I must say that I am suprised because it is very good league. I think that players there are very skill, speed. I dont think that your players are better. IMHO absolutely not. Of course i dont say about players like Datsyuk, Zetterberg or Malkin. IMHO thqa best problem and the best difference is character. Your players willl fight, always fight, players of KHL not, prespective the most of them. Plus ice... you cannot skate the whole match or the many match in the big temp on the big ice. But I think that the times will change soon. Teams like Medvescak will help it.
Sore Loser
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I disagree completely. You look at some of the guys who have had major success in the KHL, and compare that to their NHL careers (if they have had them). Some of the top line guys are very good players. It's the league-wide talent and the second, third, and fourth lines that make the difference. Not to mention the fact that defense is actually played in the NHL - something that seems to be a foreign thing to KHL teams.
I watch plenty of hockey worldwide. I believe the SEL to be the league that closest mirrors NHL hockey.
mt-svk
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Because this team plays hard and Russian must play too if they want to win, go to battle and not run before it
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mt-svk
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Maybe SEL is the closest to AHL but KHL is better than AHL. Again I know NHL, I see it many years, I follow KHL (more than 70 games per season) and I know players there I saw AHL. By the way, Sweden or Finnish players says that KHL is better than their leagues and stars of their leagues have often problems in KHL.
And the reason of careers? Do you think that Burmistrov or Mozyakin etc. are less talanted than Stamkos or Bergeron? I say about skating, skill, ice vision. No. But they are lazy. Lazy to play against forchecking, play hard every game. Plus NA believe theirselves. How Dynamo with average players can win Gagarin Cup and not SKA? Because the coach of Dynamo didnt allow lazy in his team and players must play hard. Why Medvescak won over SKA or CSKA at home? I saw these games, Russian teams are skiller, speeder, more talanted, but Medvescak played hard, players played for this guy next to me what miss many Russian players. IMHO one of the most problem is limit of foreign players and young players when Russians know that he will have playe in the team only for their passport and youngs /2 for 20 include goalies/ for their age.
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SuperGenius
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Chicago coughs up a 2-0 lead in the 3rd and loses in a shootout at home to Tampa Bay. Oh, and Chicago outshoots them 39-16, Wow.
Sore Loser
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I'm not trying to be rude, because you are definitely one of the most pleasant posters on this board, but ... to say that Burmistrov or Mozyakin would be anywhere near the level of a Stamkos or Bergeron is ridiculous.
Stamkos has 208 goals and 388 points in 375 NHL games. Bergeron, 434 points in 581 games, and a Stanley Cup. Sergei Mozyakin never even made it to the NHL - with the Blue Jackets. We all know that I'm a Blue Jackets fan above all else, but let's face it - to not be able to make this team in the situation it was in, is difficult for any NHL prospect to swallow. Burmistrov had his cup of coffee in the NHL, but he took his blanket and left as soon as he didn't get the contract he wanted. His 58 points in 194 NHL games leaves him well behind the average pace of both Bergeron and Stamkos.
The KHL leaderboards are dominated by players like Brandon Bochinski (couldn't hack it as a third/fourth line NHL player), Mike Lundin (career AHLer), and Barry Brust. These are players who couldn't even play in the NHL, let alone compete with the best. You argument is full of holes; the players who headed for the KHL are either guys who can't play in the NHL, or guys who head there because of the laughable contracts that the league hands out - and won't be able to afford to keep paying.
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Sore, I know stats. But you probalby dont read what I write. O.K. I explain on NHL example. Sean Couturier great defended Malkin in PO. Do you think that Couturier was better than Malkin? No. Malkin was lazy to play 100% in that PO. Or... do you think that Boston is better than Pittsburgh? No, but Boston played harder and thats why it won SC, similar New Jersey who win over Detroit, they wasnt better. Or the lost of Russia.... do you think that Kovalchuk and Radulov etc are worse US AHL? No. The example from Columbus, who was more talented Dorsett or Filatov? By the way Ufa develops Nikita and probably succesfull but i didnt want about it.
Mike Lundin, Brandon Bochenski, Nigel Dowes (btw the Barys players in the line wouldnt be good play alone), Tim Stapleton etc. use lazy of many Russians players to fight. But when Russian play like they can... these players are invisible. You must say games and not according to stats to say about KHL. KHL is specific it that stats dont show qualities of players, you must see their play.
And still one think I say about potential of hockey players and not that they are better now, they cannot becaouse skill, ice vision isnt all, the most important is character. Thats why Stamkos is superstar and Burmistrov not inspite of it that Alex is more talanted.
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candyman82
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Stamkos is a much more talented player than Burmistrov. Burmistrov may look good now because he's playing weaker competition, but that doesn't make him more skilled.
mt-svk
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He is sniper and in this he is super talented but no in ice vision, speed, skill. Plus again he wants to play hard Burmistrov not. It is forcheckingo f oponent... Stamkos cpntinues to play hard, Burmistrov not. I hope that you feel what is the basic problem of many Russian players. It is a pity that more coaches like Znarok arent in KHL. I would like to see players like Boll, Parros and similar there so that they fight them and maybe they would begin to play hard!!!
Thats the reason why I like NHL.
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