Armchair GMs: What moves would you make to maximize the roster?
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I'd trade Nyquist/Tatar for Larsson easily. If Cam Atkinson is the main piece going back to NJ for Larsson I'd be so pissed at Holland for not trying to trade for him.
That being said I highly doubt a 5'8, 40 point winger is the centerpiece in a deal for Larsson. Shero should be fired if he ever does a trade like that. And it's not like CBus has any great prospects outside of Werenski.
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Pulu + Prospect + 3rd/later round pick.
That's better then anything CBJ has if Atkinson is the main deal.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Would love to have Larsson he's 22 signed for 6 years at slightly over $4 million per. He would be a solid addition. Would gladly do something around Pulu+Prospect and maybe another seni decent piece for him. Not sure that New Jersey would be interested in that though.
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What about something crazy like Larsson+1st rounder for Tatar/Nyquist+Smith+late pick.
I'm very unsure about value.
I'm very unsure about value.
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I would call Philly and ask them what they would want for one of their defensive prospects (Morin, Sanheim, Gostisbehere, Hagg) and trade one of Tatar/Nyquist in a package that would include another FW coming our way.
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It's going to take a lot more than Cam Atkinson for CBJ to land Larsson. I seriously doubt NJ will move Larsson at all, but if CBJ is desperate enough to overpay.. who knows.
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Agreed, Larsson is starting to become the player they had hoped when he was taken (4th overall?). If we can get him for pulks ++ you jump all over that. Even Tats for Larsson would be a steal. I don't see what reason NJD has for trading him whatsoever.
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Yeah if Columbus is offering something around Atkinson+ for Larsson then Ken Holland definitely needs to be on the phone with the Devils GM and see what we need to offer to make a deal.
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I wouldn't be mad at that at all. If Detroit got Matthews or even Chychrun (I highly doubt this) they'd have a quick rebuild considering the core of younger players they already have. If we are gonna miss the playoffs, getting a truly elite prospect for the first time in 25 years isn't the worst thing in the world.
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I'd tank for the next 3 or 4 seasons. They aren't a team that could make it further than the 1st round of the playoffs anyway. Might as well grab some elite prospects, try to dump most of the d-corps and hope Franzen retires. Andersson is also useless.
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This is exactly what i'm thinking as well, Missing the playoffs and getting a top 10 pick hopefully isn't the end of the world. We can never get out of the first round and ways so why not try to get a top 10 pick. Even if we picked at number 10 we should get someone decent any ways.
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Missing the playoffs wouldn't be terrible. Lets grab some elite talent, especially at defense and build a team around the prospects they already have. In 5 years they could be a cup contender.
the team was good these past five seasons not because of holland but because of babcock
holland knows how to employ people who know how to draft and he knows how to not change his philosophy of development
no chance whatsoever he knows how to orchestrate a proper NHL trade
holland knows how to employ people who know how to draft and he knows how to not change his philosophy of development
no chance whatsoever he knows how to orchestrate a proper NHL trade
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Babcock managed to make an average team look like they were decent and had potential. Now we're looking at a 5th place finish in the division at best.
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Nope I think the 2016 draft is suppose to be deep with defensive talent, Wouldn't mind missing this year and getting a decent defenseman that could help us in the near future would rather do that then go out and spend an arm and leg on a trade.
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If you think the defense we have seen the past six games is indicative of what to expect the rest of the season, no trade will adequately address the litany of problems it has shown.
If you think the defense will play similarly to how it performed last season, which certainly wasn't good either, but better than the past six games, the Wings would need to trade for a #2/#3 defenseman. I don't think a trade for a top four D will cut it. I think Buff would sorta fit that criteria, but I haven't seen a single Jets game this season and my opinion isn't very informed at this moment.
Other than Buff, I can't think of any targets that would qualify as a top three defenseman the Wings could realistically trade for.
Holland can't trade/sign for another stop-gap defenseman like Zidlicky or Ian White and expect it to make any difference.
He either needs to be ultra aggressive or take his tire and go home.
The situation the Wings are in sorta reminds me of the 1997 Spurs. David Robinson missed almost the entire season and that resulted in the Spurs winning the lottery that season which ended up getting them Tim Duncan. That one awful season resulted in the Spurs winning a title two years later and set them up for four more championships and potentially several more over the next decade.
If the Wings did have a terrible season, drafting in the lottery one season might be enough to set them up for the short and long term if they get lucky and draft an NHL ready defenseman who immediately improves the blue line. It's a long shot, and once Datsyuk returns, he will make the Wings too good to potentially draft in the lottery.
If you think the defense will play similarly to how it performed last season, which certainly wasn't good either, but better than the past six games, the Wings would need to trade for a #2/#3 defenseman. I don't think a trade for a top four D will cut it. I think Buff would sorta fit that criteria, but I haven't seen a single Jets game this season and my opinion isn't very informed at this moment.
Other than Buff, I can't think of any targets that would qualify as a top three defenseman the Wings could realistically trade for.
Holland can't trade/sign for another stop-gap defenseman like Zidlicky or Ian White and expect it to make any difference.
He either needs to be ultra aggressive or take his tire and go home.
The situation the Wings are in sorta reminds me of the 1997 Spurs. David Robinson missed almost the entire season and that resulted in the Spurs winning the lottery that season which ended up getting them Tim Duncan. That one awful season resulted in the Spurs winning a title two years later and set them up for four more championships and potentially several more over the next decade.
If the Wings did have a terrible season, drafting in the lottery one season might be enough to set them up for the short and long term if they get lucky and draft an NHL ready defenseman who immediately improves the blue line. It's a long shot, and once Datsyuk returns, he will make the Wings too good to potentially draft in the lottery.
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When the last decent defenseman Detroit has developed is Niklas Kronwall... I think drafting a decent defenseman is easier said than done.
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