Speculation: Armchair GM Thread: I can't believe it's not butter, I can't believe we didn't get Ryan Hartman.

[Ace Rimmer]

Anyone who thought Fox was signing this summer is completely clueless.

I thought he might, then I found out he's a sophomore.

Yeah, he might leave with a year left, but not two.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Trading Dougie would only makes sense if you get, Marner + Liljegren or Domi + Chych or Hanifin + Aho.

Otherwise, no thanks.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I’d trade Dougie but only if we get a stud in return like a Marner, Ehlers type player.

 

[JPeeper]

Only thing I trade Dougie for is the 1st (Dahlin) or 2nd overall (Svechnikov).

Nothing else is worth it.

 

[Lunatik]

People shooting down the suggestion != not understanding that it is just that.

I don't understand why so many of the suggestions are so stupid.

 

[Lunatik]

I thought he might, then I found out he's a sophomore.

Yeah, he might leave with a year left, but not two.

Even then, I'm not so sure. You don't sink that kind of money into a Harvard education to leave early. Fox would have to be 100% sure he is going to be a star for him to leave Harvard early. Spending 4 years getting a world-class eduction won't hamper his development as a hockey player.

 

[Dead Thing Fan]

To Calgary: Vegas 2018 1st

To Detroit: Jon Gillies

Flame away

 

[Kahvi]

I guess you could start by saying why Flames do it?

 

[72hockey guy]

Fox is worth a top five pick imo. He is just as promising as Boqvist.

No he isnt. he's rather small. As an isles fan id easily pass

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

I guess you could start by saying why Flames do it?

Common sense.

Detroit would be crazy to do it though.

 

[DCDM]

Common sense.

Detroit would be crazy to do it though.

What common sense?

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

What common sense?

Adding a first round pick in a year where you have no first, second, or third for the cost of an AHL-caliber goaltender who might pan out into a decent backup if everything goes right? It's a pipe dream.

 

[Kahvi]

Adding a first round pick in a year where you have no first, second, or third for the cost of an AHL-caliber goaltender who might pan out into a decent backup if everything goes right? It's a pipe dream.

Calgary does not have too many goalie prospects (they are always question marks) and who knows what that 1st pick turns into.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Calgary does not have too many goalie prospects (they are always question marks)

We have Tyler Parsons, and I would still put Rittich in that prospect category. Either way, goalie prospects of Gillies' caliber are a dime a dozen. Joni Ortio was better than him and we let him go for nothing at all never mind a first round pick. Remember Laurent Brossoit, who we traded for Ladislav Smid?

Let's be real, Gillies has upside but most prospect goalies do. We're not talking about a guy setting records left and right like Matt Murray or a sure thing like Vasilevskiy, Gibson, or Price. A first would be an overpayment on Detroit's behalf.

and who knows what that 1st pick turns into.

Probably more than absolutely no one.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

No way Detroit does that. Gillies is a very good prospect but he still has flaws.

He could turn into a star. He is a wall on the first save. Truly world class in that regard. But just lets in weird goals from center and bad angles. Like a lot of them. The occasional bad read. He's an enigma.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

No he isnt. he's rather small. As an isles fan id easily pass

To me, there are 5 prospects you take over Fox in this draft. Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Tkachuk, and Bouchard. Then it's between Fox, Hughes and Boqvist.

Adam Fox will be a Ghostisbehere talent. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face.

 

[72hockey guy]

To me, there are 5 prospects you take over Fox in this draft. Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Tkachuk, and Bouchard. Then it's between Fox, Hughes and Boqvist.

Adam Fox will be a Ghostisbehere talent. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face.

He might be but I'm not a fan of his either. He's an offensive catalyst but not much of a defennseman.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Hmm.. you guys are really high on Fox.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Can’t see Detroit doing that, and I am still quite happy with Gillies progression.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Hmm.. you guys are really high on Fox.

I am. When players get to the NHL, the game really slows down for defencemen. Other teams back off and trap now. So you the guys that consistently make the right decisions are more important than ever. Poise is the most important aspect of a defencemans game IMO. And Adam Fox is world class in that regard. He just thinks the game at a higher level. He sees things other players don’t. He’s able to slow things down and control the pace of the game. That’s why I think he will be a great player.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I agree, Fox is gonna be another Ghost. His talent and IQ are undeniable. I can’t wait until he hopefully QB’s our PP.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Hmm.. you guys are really high on Fox.

He sees the game as well as any defenseman I've seen. Like, his hockey IQ is on a Lidstrom level. His hands are excellent too, right there with Flames like Brodie, Kylington, and Giordano able to execute in-tight.

He just can't skate very well. Lacks escapability from forecheckers. He fixes that one area to be NHL-average and he will be a star player in the NHL.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Fox is as good a prospect now as Gaudreau was when he signed his contract.

 

[Mr Snrub]

No he isnt. he's rather small. As an isles fan id easily pass

He's only one inch shorter than Boqvist

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

He sees the game as well as any defenseman I've seen. Like, his hockey IQ is on a Lidstrom level. His hands are excellent too, right there with Flames like Brodie, Kylington, and Giordano able to execute in-tight.

He just can't skate very well. Lacks escapability from forecheckers. He fixes that one area to be NHL-average and he will be a star player in the NHL.

Agreed. He will likely take a few more years, but skating is the one thing that almost always improves most in players (if they aren't great at it in their youth).