With exception of Vasilevskiy, there isn't another one of those 1st round goalies goalies you would trade the Panthers #1 defender for. That alone should give you an idea of whether or not the value is there for Knight to be the key piece for a Chychrun trade, and thats with the benefit of hindsight where we know what Vas has become. Goalies don't carry that type of value. Provide one example of a prospect goalie returning a 23 year old top pairing defender on a very good contract for 3+ years. No one is penalizing anyone - the value isn't there. I just went through the active goalies in the NHL and I couldn't find anything close to equal value in a trade for an unproven goalie.
Uh, so 1/3 chance of a superstar and a 100% chance of becoming a NHLer based on the population average? Do you want to the run the outcomes for first round picks in general or top prospects traded in a package?
Your critique here is more a critique of trading for a package of prospects...which is what Arizona apparently wants.
Provide one example of a prospect goalie returning a 23 year old top pairing defender on a very good contract for 3+ years.
Give me one trade where the team has offered a first round goalie prospect who was still a prospect? Rask was the last I think? Martin was the last young goalie trade I could remember, although he was a bit older, more experienced, and less pedigreed. We could look at Levi +1st for Reinhart tbh where Buffalo was looking for a good prospect and a first I guess, but Levi was a substantially lesser ranked prospect.
I'll break up your next two comments and reverse the order.
I just went through the active goalies in the NHL and I couldn't find anything close to equal value in a trade for an unproven goalie.
I like this style of analysis: let's look at actual trades. The thing is that young, top goalie prospects are never traded--it could be little value or it could be that they're too valuable for a trade from the team's perspective or it could be that there's too few! (About quantity, the four most hyped goalie prospects have been Price, Campbell, Knight and Askarov to the best of my knowledge) A lack of trades is not a function of low value lol. (I know if Lundell was taken and Askarov was still around, Florida had a Boldy for Askarov trade agreed upon with the Wild for example.)
What do we when we don't have traded prices? I look at consensus rankings/projections from the main publications who collect information and incorporate the risk of goalies in their analysis.
no one is penalizing anyone - the value isn't there.
You're assuming value away. At this point, we aren't going to agree: I look towards consensus rankings when there's an easy market price to pick; you don't. Ultimately, if you don't rank Knight as a top 25ish prospect, it's not a good trade. If you do, that's the value you want from the centerpiece.
