Sportsnet: Arizona have received an offer matching their asking price for Jakob Chychrun.

[BB88]

The issue that FLA fans need to understand is that guys like Tippett and Denisenko aren't all that appealing. Sure, they're former 1st round picks but they're not exactly lighting the world on fire. And both play wing. Samoskevich is still in school. You don't have a 2022 1st round pick. Goaltending is extremely volatile and the Yotes are tanking so I don't think they have use for Knight.

There's gonna be much better offers for the Coyotes if Lundell isn't on the table.

Nobody is putting anyone close to Lundell on the table

 

[Dead Coyote]

Arizona has been a rebuilding team every year since they entered the league

Yes, rebuilding teams often trade for 1yr of Taylor Hall.

 

[Stickpucker]

Jordan Staal, Brady Skjei and 2023 1st.

 

[Dead Coyote]

How can the league even allow this to happen? Arizona is such a shit and shame show and it will take forever, if ever to get respectable, even if they have like what, 200 draft picks.

Malding

 

[Dr Beinfest]

Oh I didn't miss it you just can't count. He has a full NMC for 2 years after this one. Jan of 2024 he still can't be moved...thats 2 years right? So the only way he could be traded is 3 years from now and the cost to take on a 10 mill cap hit for 2 full years is going to be astronomical. It also doesn't help because you need to sign Hubs.....so your point makes no sense.

Florida has some serious cap issues coming up.

HAH gottem, can’t count!! So let’s do the math together here, friend.
It’s January 2022 right now. In one year it will be January 2023. The Panthers will have paid Bob’s $6 million signing bonus and half of his $6 million 2022-2023 salary. There will be $25 million left on his contract.
In 1.5 years, let’s add that together… February, March, April, May, June, July 2023… the Panthers will have paid all $12 million and now covered another $5 million signing bonus. There will be $17.5 million left on his contract and he will in his last year of full NMC.
In two years (January 2024, in case you lost count), there will be $15 million left on his contract, and he will be on the edge of no longer having an NMC.
It would not be inconceivable that the Panthers could retain some percentage of $15-17.5 million and pay a king’s ransom of picks if that’s what it took to hold onto Huberdeau. Why you dont think this helps the Huberdeau contract is a bit daft, since the whole point is to free up ~$5 million in cap space needed for Huberdeau. A move dealing Bob with some retention would do that. And it’s not inconceivable that a team with cap space would see this as an opportunity. f*** outta here with your condescending “you can’t add” bullshit.

 

[Heldig]

I’d really like to know who made the matching offer and what it was

You and every other person that has viewed this thread.

 

[Alluckks]

If the asking amount being talked in here is accurate then I don't see the Rangers being involved when a deal finally gets made

 

[canadianmagpie]

If a team matched their asking price, why hasn't it been completed? My guess is that Arizona released the information to try and get a team with someone else they want on a different team to up their bid.

 

[PromisedLand]

He is signed for 4.6 AAV for 3 more years (not including this one) should be interesting.... Yotes are really trying to build for the future it seems. They had a really solid offseason and did a lot more than Kraken and they continue to do so....

I wonder if Kraken will get into the action near the TDL to build for the future?

 

[PromisedLand]

Ritchie + Liljegren + 1st.

Leafs don't have much on the right; not sure trading Lily is smart given Lily is also on ELC.

I'd swap Dermott for Lily there and perhaps someone else to make the 4.6 AAV work within the Leafs cap structure

 

[Vitto79]

If a team matched their asking price, why hasn't it been completed? My guess is that Arizona released the information to try and get a team with someone else they want on a different team to up their bid.

theres a bidding war so they will wait to get the players they like

meeting the reported asking price doesn’t mean they are in love W the offer

 

[FlaPanthers11]

Florida has some serious cap issues coming up.

When? What’s the math on that?

If Huberdeau gets 10 mil and Weegar gets 7 then in ‘23-‘24 the Panthers would have their top 8 Fs, top 4 D, and 1G locked up at 72M. Even if the cap doesn’t move an inch that’s not at all concerning and that’s with Bob’s contract

 

[Kurrilino]

So you’re saying that the Kings have offered;
Tobias Bjornfot
Gabriel Vilardi
2022 1st rounder

No, im sure he said
Dustin Brown
Anze Kopitar
2023 1st

If i get the Twitter right, it was 2 former 1st round picks and a 1st round draft

 

[sens13]

Leafs don't have much on the right; not sure trading Lily is smart given Lily is also on ELC.

I'd swap Dermott for Lily there and perhaps someone else to make the 4.6 AAV work within the Leafs cap structure

laughable that you think 1st +dermott+ ritchie is fair value. and you want arz to take more cap back too?

Man why are leaf fans such homers.

dermott and ricthie have barely any value. ritchie is a cap dump that just cleared waivers and dermott is a bottom pairing d-man,

You really think arz is going to trade their top pairing d-man for a late first, #5 d, and a garbage forward? Get real

 

[jackjohnson]

Jordan Staal, Brady Skjei and 2023 1st.

damn that is horrendous. Old man staal and ski man? The 1st is not even from this year??

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Think it’s clear Zona wants a high end C in any deal.

Thus, Florida not wanting to part with Lundell likely holding up any deal.

I can see CBJ putting a package together that gets it done with their recent picks.

Question is which one and what other prospect?

Id assume lower of their two 2022 picks regardless.

I agree with this, I can see CBJ offering something like

1. Boqvist / Bean
2. Ceulemans
3. Whichever of their 2022 1sts is worse

And Arizona thanking them for giving them something to shop around in particular to Florida to get Lundell but never considering it.

 

[Gentle Man]

What will you do if he sends both?

 

[Egblad]

The issue that FLA fans need to understand is that guys like Tippett and Denisenko aren't all that appealing. Sure, they're former 1st round picks but they're not exactly lighting the world on fire. And both play wing. Samoskevich is still in school. You don't have a 2022 1st round pick. Goaltending is extremely volatile and the Yotes are tanking so I don't think they have use for Knight.

There's gonna be much better offers for the Coyotes if Lundell isn't on the table.

No, I think we understand that Tippett and Denisenko aren't all that appealing. It's just that we don't want to part with Lundell. Totally understand ARZ asking for Lundell. Some FLA fans are more ok with parting with Knight. I just don't think we end up being good dance partners if the ask is Lundell. And that's fine.

 

[Drew311]

If Panthers actually offered two former 1st rounders and a future 1st rounder.

Tippett
Denisenko
2023 1st

 

[unicornpig]

Leafs don't have much on the right; not sure trading Lily is smart given Lily is also on ELC.

I'd swap Dermott for Lily there and perhaps someone else to make the 4.6 AAV work within the Leafs cap structure

So two dumps lol, his proposal was god awful and some how you made it even worse

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I agree with this, I can see CBJ offering something like

1. Boqvist / Bean
2. Ceulemans
3. Whichever of their 2022 1sts is worse

And Arizona thanking them for giving them something to shop around in particular to Florida to get Lundell but never considering it.

Nothing that truly hurts to give up from the Columbus side (Johnson, Sillinger, the higher of the 1sts stay), but still legit value for Arizona here.

The Jackets might be the only team in the league that have the assets to walk that tight rope.

 

[monix11]

Nobody is putting anyone close to Lundell on the table

Not debating that.

Just saying Denisenko and Tippett aren't gonna get you Chychrun. That offer is garbage for a 23 year old top pairing D on a bargain ticket.

Panthers and Coyotes probably aren't dance partners if Lundell isn't in the deal.

 

[Dread Clawz]

its not going to be ceulemans and bean though

I meant either Ceulemans or Bean, not both obviously.

 

[jonlin]

I wonder if Kraken will get into the action near the TDL to build for the future?

If they are - Soucy or Giordano would be good adds for Panthers atleast.

 

[Bevans]

laughable that you think 1st +dermott+ ritchie is fair value. and you want arz to take more cap back too?

Man why are leaf fans such homers.

dermott and ricthie have barely any value. ritchie is a cap dump that just cleared waivers and dermott is a bottom pairing d-man,

You really think arz is going to trade their top pairing d-man for a late first, #5 d, and a garbage forward? Get real

Some guys make questionable offers, some guys make fair ones. Then leafs fans come in, drop a steaming pile, and say you're welcome.

There's such a clear line between leaf offers and every other team's fans.