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The best part is, the time for that conspiracy theory was c. 1960 when commercial jets first started crossing the sky...the fact that all the idiots waited 40+ years until after 9/11 to "notice" says a lot about them.

Nah, they were too busy with freaking out about fluoridation in the water supply. Can't expect them to multitask!
 
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I think I have a bad habit on this forum of assuming I’m engaging in good natured banter, and being insulting in the way buddies are insulting over beers at the poker table. Then I think it turns out that I’m actually in one of these Twitter fights where people are mad. Then I realize that not only am I jerk but I’m also a fool.

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Best thing to tell a person who thinks planes are making chemtrails - "Be careful when you go to a cold climate, because the government will make you spread harmful chemicals in the air just by BREATHING." Then grab the popcorn and watch the hijinks ensue.
Not if you don't get vaccinated, that's their most effective way to get the micro-chembots in you! Chemtrails are highly inefficient, sure a lot of people properly breathe them in but the government wastes A LOT of micro-chembots this way as most to fall to the ground, it's just too expensive which is why they invented Covid. That campaign was wildly successfull and no longer important so they stopped investing in that, hence the stock prices dropping, and instead are rerouting funds to finish the second phase of the program, the 5G towers! This will allow us to more effectively communicate with all the microbots, even the non-chem ones, we have installed over the past few years.
 
You guys are too funny! Not all conspiracy theories are created equal. Some of these ludicrous things get circulated and gain traction and it just discredits all of the stuff that actually is true haha. We like to lump them all into the same big crackpot…
 
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You guys are too funny! Not all conspiracy theories are created equal. Some of these ludicrous things get circulated and gain traction and it just discredits all of the stuff that actually is true haha. We like to lump them all into the same big crackpot…

Well, I'm a simple guy who appreciates Occam's Razor and the scientific method, as well as carefully vetting and curating multiple sources. As such, I don't buy into too many conspiracy theories and I use tinfoil to keep food fresh rather than use it as a sartorial accessory. :D

That's not to say that conspiracies don't exist. They do. But most of the ones screeched about by various special interest groups are bogus, ginned up to produce enough outrage to achieve their own aims at the expense of others. A good rule of thumb is to look at a conspiracy theory and try to figure out what the people pushing it have to gain by it.
 
They are spreading something; heard of cloud seeding? Currently only done locally, but some have suggested a global program to reduce temperatures.


Best thing to tell a person who thinks planes are making chemtrails - "Be careful when you go to a cold climate, because the government will make you spread harmful chemicals in the air just by BREATHING." Then grab the popcorn and watch the hijinks ensue.

The best part is, the time for that conspiracy theory was c. 1960 when commercial jets first started crossing the sky...the fact that all the idiots waited 40+ years until after 9/11 to "notice" says a lot about them.
FP and DOM, are you suggesting that you don't believe the article MIG linked is based on real information?
 
Cloud seeding is definitely a real thing. But that has nothing to do with the chemtrails conspiracy theory.
Nothing?

I think the basis of the conspiracy theory is that weather modification is being carried out intentionally with airplane exhaust.
I acknowledge that there's more extreme versions, but that's the basis of it.

So I'm surprised that you'll acknowledge cloud seeding is real but posture that chem trails are fake. To me it's the same thing.
 
Nothing?

I think the basis of the conspiracy theory is that weather modification is being carried out intentionally with airplane exhaust.
I acknowledge that there's more extreme versions, but that's the basis of it.

So I'm surprised that you'll acknowledge cloud seeding is real but posture that chem trails are fake. To me it's the same thing.
You mean stuff like this:


What could possibly go wrong?
 
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Nothing?

I think the basis of the conspiracy theory is that weather modification is being carried out intentionally with airplane exhaust.
I acknowledge that there's more extreme versions, but that's the basis of it.

So I'm surprised that you'll acknowledge cloud seeding is real but posture that chem trails are fake. To me it's the same thing.

To me it's not. The cloud seeding is not done with airplane exhaust. It's done by high-altitude spraying akin to low-level cropdusting in specific and selective locations. It's not widespread because they're still testing to see whether it's effective or not.

"Chemtrails" is the fully-debunked theory that regular exhaust from high-altitude airliners is a government-sponsored chemical tainting of the atmosphere, and the only evidence presented is contrails, which are in fact caused by water vapor particles freezing around the heat of an aircraft's engine exhaust at high altitudes.

The "chemtrails" conspiracy theory, moreover, implies nefarious government intent which doesn't exist. They're using their nefarious intent on other things, like hobnobbing with lobbyists and selling themselves to the highest bidder... :sarcasm:
 
I dunno... all this cloud seeding has been making me take more trips to the bathroom to water something.

I actually hope cloud seeding works, because it might be the only way to deal with the heat island over Phoenix and get us clear of the drought. The other way to do it would be to get rid of all the concrete and asphalt and find some more climate-friendly stuff to put on the roofs in the city, but the odds of THAT happening are pretty much nonexistent.
 
I actually hope cloud seeding works, because it might be the only way to deal with the heat island over Phoenix and get us clear of the drought. The other way to do it would be to get rid of all the concrete and asphalt and find some more climate-friendly stuff to put on the roofs in the city, but the odds of THAT happening are pretty much nonexistent.

Yer talking to a guy who grew up around crop dusters. My dad would take me out at night and we'd park near a field being sprayed just so I could watch them work.

Always wondered about the poor guy standing at the edge of the field waving his light sticks to guide the plane in and getting doused on each pass.
 
The best part is, the time for that conspiracy theory was c. 1960 when commercial jets first started crossing the sky...the fact that all the idiots waited 40+ years until after 9/11 to "notice" says a lot about them.

I should mention that contrails have been a thing ever since airplanes were able to go above 10,000 feet in service ceiling. One of the big problems in WWII, in fact, was that when fighters and bombers went over European targets in autumn and winter, they would spread contrails across the sky which made them easy targets for ground-based flak batteries. Fighters dogfighting in that weather at those altitudes would also contrail heavily, which made it hard for pilots in distress to escape.

But I digress! :D

Yer talking to a guy who grew up around crop dusters. My dad would take me out at night and we'd park near a field being sprayed just so I could watch them work.

Always wondered about the poor guy standing at the edge of the field waving his light sticks to guide the plane in and getting doused on each pass.

Not to go on a tangent, but the Air Tractors they use to do crop dusting these days have always looked like incredible fun to fly. There are videos on YouTube made by a Air Tractor pilot at work that are just fascinating as hell.
 
Nothing?

I think the basis of the conspiracy theory is that weather modification is being carried out intentionally with airplane exhaust.
I acknowledge that there's more extreme versions, but that's the basis of it.

So I'm surprised that you'll acknowledge cloud seeding is real but posture that chem trails are fake. To me it's the same thing.
You don't need to "acknowledge" cloud seeding is real, it's a well known thing that is done right out in the open, it's not hidden at all and is written about by plenty of reputable sources. Weather modification is a well known thing and is done all over the world, hell China was doing it 15 years ago for the Beijing summer olympics.

Now is it a good idea, I don't know, definitely has that we brought in snakes to control ferrets to control rats energy about it but that's not conspiracy silliness, that's just good 'ol fashion pros/cons discussion, no suspension of the prefrontal cortex needed!
 
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Not to go on a tangent, but the Air Tractors they use to do crop dusting these days have always looked like incredible fun to fly. There are videos on YouTube made by a Air Tractor pilot at work that are just fascinating as hell.
I had no idea those were called Air Tractors, in the heartland where I grew up we just always called them "crop dusters".
 
Peasants like us are usually suffering from some grievous injury done to us by a nefarious plot by mysterious and dark powers we can’t even begin to comprehend. I mean, look just look at insurance companies. And the IRS.

Are they turning our frogs gay? Or magnetizing us with vaccines? Or spraying nightmare gasses on us from above. Probably not. Whatever they’re doing is probably much more horrific. :)
 
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I had no idea those were called Air Tractors, in the heartland where I grew up we just always called them "crop dusters".

Air Tractor is actually a brand name: Air Tractor | Demand More.

They're purpose-built high-lift low-speed ultramaneuverable planes that are way more technically advanced and safer than the old Stearman biplanes that used to dominate the space.
 
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Yer talking to a guy who grew up around crop dusters. My dad would take me out at night and we'd park near a field being sprayed just so I could watch them work.

Always wondered about the poor guy standing at the edge of the field waving his light sticks to guide the plane in and getting doused on each pass.
A fellow rancher, friend of mine used to flag for planes dropping 245T (agent orange) when he was a kid, no health issues, when last we spoke. It’s since been banned, but the cry of the rancher that wanted “cheap” brush control is that it was the extremely high levels of the stuff used in Nam, that created issues. The military needed defoliation in much shorter order than a rancher needs.
 

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