Confirmed with Link: [ARI/TOR] Conor Timmins to Toronto for Curtis Douglas

[Knies iT]

I don't know much about this kid other than he was a solid prospect but his career has been derailed by injuries. Anybody know what kind of injuries we are talking about?

Concussion and knee.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Because of the price paid.

You think Arizona wanted him because he sucks? Why didn't they ask for Joey Anderson or equivalent? You are telling me Dubas masterfully negotiated sending a 4th liner instead?

Or did Arizona want him because they know the value of these players? I am betting they know in a few years this guy is going to be a valuable piece on our 4th line. Like Trent Frederic who was useless and now a key part of the Bruins depth.

I am mad because it shows Dubas STILL doesn't get it.

If you want to trust Arizona's player evaluation like gospel, go right ahead lol

 

[Menzinger]

Nothing ? What about size and grit?

Douglas has a bigger body than Marchment. But is slower. Also plays a different position and has worse production, especially goal scoring.

Marchment stands out not because he has grit, but because It turns out he had grit and could produce at NHL level. I'm not sure anybody can confidently say that Douglas has remotely close to that ability

 

[Stephen]

Yeah there was speculation last night about Timmins coming off his conditioning stint and maybe being available to the Leafs. Douglas really went in the dog house after Kallgren was run in a Marlies game and he did nothing but wave at the refs while a scrum ensued. Didn’t seem like he was on strong footing thereafter.

 

[Stephen]

If you want to trust Arizona's player evaluation like gospel, go right ahead lol

They probably just went for a guy with a unique build as a flyer. Probably not any special insight beyond that.

 

[Menzinger]

They probably just went for a guy with a unique build as a flyer. Probably not any special insight beyond that.

From the looks of things it seems as if they needed a center for their AHL team's bottom six. If they can get a manage all games from the guy down the road I guess they see as a bonus

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Because of the price paid.

You think Arizona wanted him because he sucks? Why didn't they ask for Joey Anderson or equivalent? You are telling me Dubas masterfully negotiated sending a 4th liner instead?

Or did Arizona want him because they know the value of these players? I am betting they know in a few years this guy is going to be a valuable piece on our 4th line. Like Trent Frederic who was useless and now a key part of the Bruins depth.

I am mad because it shows Dubas STILL doesn't get it.

They likely would rather have had Joey Anderson. You are completely off the plot on this one.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Sounds like when the Leafs waive him the Coyotes will pick him up and relieve the Leafs of a contract.

I doubt Arizona wants to claim him unless they play him every day.

850k is a lot for a depth guy in ARI.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

They probably just went for a guy with a unique build as a flyer. Probably not any special insight beyond that.

It's also much easier to crack the coyotes roster than the Leafs, so even if they see him as a physical 4th line option is no guarantees he'd ever be the same player here. I really don't mind losing him at all, but Timmins probably wouldn't have been my choice as a defensive stopgap either. He's too risky

 

[uncleben]

Totally not an indicator of anything, as we're not bringing him into score goals, but Timmins sits 9th in active NHLers for GP without a career goal.
He was in the top 5 last year before his season was paused due to injury. Timmins sits at 41GP without a goal.

Toronto also has the player first overall in GP without a goal: Carl Dahlstrom, 67GP.

Last year, Toronto acquired Ilya Lyubushkin while he was first overall in GP without a goal, before Boosh famously broke his goose egg.


Truly means nothing, just a little factoid, for ya!
Carolina currently has two players in the top 5 - 2nd William Lagesson 60GP and 5th Jalen Chatfield 53GP (and tied for second is Gustav Olofsson, who was on Carolina last year).

 

[LaPlante94]

Can't really be mad at this deal tbh. I think a guy like Timmins could play well with a guy like Brodie, Gio, Sandin or Benn.

 

[cyris]

Waiving Timmins to send him to the league that Douglas plays on the 4th line

Come on, this is a lottery ticket for a free wallet type deal. Timmins is at least a 32nd overall with pedigre where Douglas was undrafted.

Just for clarification Douglas was drafted. By Dallas.
They chose not to sign him.

Still a lot of complaints about trading a guy who is highly unlikely to have an NHL career.

 

[ACC1224]

They probably just went for a guy with a unique build as a flyer. Probably not any special insight beyond that.

Plus leafs had to send a contract

Just for clarification Douglas was drafted. By Dallas.
They chose not to sign him.

Still a lot of complaints about trading a guy who is highly unlikely to have an NHL career.

I’ve only ever seen one complain.

 

[ponder]

Kind of a nothing deal, both are long shots to be NHL players. Dubas' fetish for Soo players is pretty ridiculous, but in this case, not a big deal.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Can't really be mad at this deal tbh. I think a guy like Timmins could play well with a guy like Brodie, Gio, Sandin or Benn.

I guess Rielly is too high in the lineup?

 

[TheDoldrums]

Or did Arizona want him because they know the value of these players? I am betting they know in a few years this guy is going to be a valuable piece on our 4th line. Like Trent Frederic who was useless and now a key part of the Bruins depth.

Trent Frederic was a 1st rounder man, he was always considered a much better prospect than Douglas

 

[cyris]

Yeah there was speculation last night about Timmins coming off his conditioning stint and maybe being available to the Leafs. Douglas really went in the dog house after Kallgren was run in a Marlies game and he did nothing but wave at the refs while a scrum ensued. Didn’t seem like he was on strong footing thereafter.

Yeah I was waiting for someone to bring that up. The man mountain of intimidation really didn’t do much there.
Add to that 1 assist in 13 Marlies games and a poor camp and things weren’t looking too good for his future with us.

 

[Warden of the North]

Douglas stood around an watched the Marlies goalie get run a few weeks ago. Like just stood there.

Bye. Not what we want a 6'8" dude doing.

Anyways, Friedman called this a few days ago. Good for him

 

[TMLAM34]

Can’t complain about this move. Welcome to Toronto Timmins. He should be sheltered on the third pair how Bogosian was basically to avoid any injury yet provide 14 solid minutes a game.

 

[IPS]

Officially on fire Dubas train right now. WTF

You have to be the most confusing poster on here.

One moment you're defending the f*** out of Dubas and the next you're calling for his firing on a nothing for nothing trade.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

The Mac Hollowell dream may have just ended

Like Eminem, he only gets one shot.

 

[sxvnert]

Trading a 6'9 forward for this often injured timmins is just stupid.

 

[therealkoho]

Holy shit you guys overrate Douglas he isn’t an nhl player now and he probably won’t be

I think you're right he has done nothing this year, he looked like a ghost in pre-season

Conor Timmins

Conor Timmins

Birthday: 09/18/1998 Birthplace: Thorold, ON, Canada Position: D Shoots: Right Height: 6’1″ Weight: 181 NHL Draft: 2017: 2nd Round, 32nd Overall by Colorado Avalanche Rankings: #33 by R…

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Conor Timmins

March 2024 - Unfortunately Timmins has once again run into health issues. After getting into 16 games between late November and late January, which included six points from the blueliner, Timmins was struck with a case of mono. This has kept the Thorold, Ontario native out of the lineup for over...

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“Two-way defenseman who found his offensive game in a big way in 2017, Timmins is an intelligent and physical blue liner with great skating ability, can easily move the puck out of his zone himself with his smooth skating stride and vision on the breakout; all situations minute munching defenseman.” – Brandon Holmes, Riding Pine Hockey

“The cerebral, poised Timmins plays an impressive two-way game featuring sharp intuition and vision that contribute to his skilled passing and playmaking. A great puck-mover and mobile skater that excels at quarterbacking the power play. He took great offensive strides last year with OHL Sault Ste. Marie, finishing with seven goals and 54 assists in 67 contests, far exceeding his previous 13-point campaign. He could add more muscle to beef up his already aggressive defensive game.” – Kevin Wickersham, Dobber Prospects

Conor Timmins Scouting Report: 2017 NHL Draft #25

Conor Timmins was not on many scouts' radar coming into the season. However, he has really broken out with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds.

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Skating​

Timmins is a very good skater. He has a strong first step, and accelerates smoothly and quickly. His top end speed is good in both directions, and solid edge work and pivots allow him to cover a lot of ice. Timmins has good lateral agility, allowing him to walk the line, and open up passing lanes and shooting lanes in the offensive zone. He is also strong on his skates, helping him to battle for position in the corners and in front of the net.

Offensive Game​

Timmins has the stick handling ability to beat forecheckers and move the puck quickly up the ice. He is comfortable both leading the rush and joining in as a trailer. His skating skill allows him to do this, as well as pinch in at the blue line, and still get back defensively. Timmins is an outstanding play maker. He is very smart, seeing plays develop and reacting to the movements of teammates and defenders. His vision is good and he sees plays that others don’t. Timmins passing skills are also very good. He can fit pucks through tight openings. He has the skills to make saucer passes to teammates, landing the puck flat on the tape.

Timmins has a good shot from the point. His slap shot is accurate and has good power. He keeps his shot low, and manages to get it on net, and through traffic. His low shot allows teammates to get to the front of the net, screening goalkeepers, and getting tips and deflections. He also has a good wrist shot which he can use to get the puck on net when pressured at the point. He has a quick release which also makes his shot effect on the rush.

Defensive Game​

Conor Timmins is very physical in his own end of the rink. Forwards have to keep their head up on his side of the ice, as he is always looking to make an impact with a big hit. He maintains good gap control, and uses an explosive lower body to just explode into the hit. Timmins is also physical in the corners and in front of the net. He must continue to get stronger in order to continue to play this style at higher levels against bigger, stronger forwards. His positioning is pretty good, but could continue to be improved with more experience. Timmins can transition the puck quickly out of his own zone when he gets the opportunity.

 

[Future]

Like Bunting?

Bunting scored 10 goals in the last 20 games at the end of that season, did he not?

 

[Amadeus]

This Soo connection is becoming annoying.