Are we in Canada paranoid about 2026 or should we not be worried?

Nucks2001

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“We’re getting close to calling him Team Canada Tom Wilson”​


If management starts making decisions like this, revoke my Canadian citizenship and take Marchand and Wilson with me please.
 

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“We’re getting close to calling him Team Canada Tom Wilson”​


If management starts making decisions like this, revoke my Canadian citizenship and take Marchand and Wilson with me please.
There was this same report floating around before 2022 that he was going to make that team too. I get that the management wants to recreate the 2010s team that had physical, north south, forechecking wingers, but the drop off in ability to Tom Wilson or Adam Lowry (who I would assume would play wing) is astonishing.

I’m not saying they take the 12 top scorers on the forward group and call it a day, but for god sakes take someone like Verhaeghe or Lafrenière if you want for hard forechecking wingers. Having to stick to a philosophy that does not apply to the current pool of players will get them destroyed
 
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ORRFF Stats Watch (October 24, 2024)

Positives :

* Jordan Kyrou with 2 assists - he's PPG and he was everywhere against the Leafs.
Hockey Canada needs to decide what to do with the 2018 kids.
* Brandon Hagel with his 6th goal - short handed.
* Colton Parayko's playing awesome - as per Gord Miller. :)

* LAF with his 4th goal - given the fact that he gets next to NO PP time, how do we keep him off the team?
* Sam Bennett with his 6th - remember when he was a bust?
* Carter Verhaeghe with his first goal of the year.
* Sam Reinhart with another point - an assist. Dude is on fire.
* Dylan Holloway with his 2nd and 3rd goal. Edmonton will rue the day they let him get away.
* Matt Duchene with his forth goal and an assist - but is he too old?
* Jake Neighbour with his 2nd and 3rd goal of the year - he stole the puck off Nylander to get his 3rd. Nice!
* Seth Jarvis with his 2nd goal - nice to see him finally lighting the lamp.
* Logan Stankoven with his first goal - Calder anyone?
* Cale Makar being Cale Makar with his 3rd goal.
* Brandt Clarke is doing well in L.A..
* Mark Scheifele having a strong year - 2 assists, tonight, and PPG+.
* Cole Perfetti continually puts up the points.
* Jordan Eberle on his way to having a career season at 34.
* Jared McCann with 2 assist.

Goalies :

* Jordan Binnington giving up only 1 goal on 42 shots. Nice!
* Cam Talbot with a solid N.J. win.
* MAF with a strong night against Tampa Bay.
* MacKenzie Blackwood with a meh night.

Negatives :

* Byfield!
 
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He seldom gets mentioned but Colton Parayko needs to be considered. He's 6'6" and, as Gord Miller mentioned, he was a brick wall against Toronto.
 
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ORRFF Stats Watch (October 25, 2024)

Positives :

* Alex Pietrangelo with a 3 point night.
* Drake Batherson with a goal and an assist.

* 27 points in the Ottawa / Vegas game, 16 of them are Canadian.
* Bo Horvat with his 3rd goal - he has dropped off most people's radar for a Best on Best tournament.
* Bedard with his 2nd goal.
* Evan Bouchard with a goal and an assist.
* RNH with his first goal.

Goalies :

* Adin Hill gave up 4 goals / 39 shots in the win.
* Jake Allen gave up 4 goals, including 2 LATE goals, in the N.J. loss to the NYI.
* Stuart Skinner shut out Pittsburgh.
 
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On A Personal Note :

Not many posters know this but I post from jail. It's not easy but I just got some wonderful news. The District Attorney greenlighted my resentencing earlier today. Looks like (my brother and) I may be getting out of prison VERY, VERY SOON!!!

Wish us luck! :)
My ^ joke ^ fell flat - 24 hours later, I was still waiting for a laugh.


I was TRYING to be funny. I guess I failed. :)
 
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While the goaltending is worrying to some degree I still believe Hill and Binnington, guys who do best in the playoffs and higher pressure situations, could get it done. While it would be great to have an actual solidified elite goaltender like the US or Russia, I think the strength of the roster in general will be able to compensate. MacKinnon, McDavid and Makar are possession monsters who have shown they can and will take over playoff series and games, as well as Bedard who has gamebreaking and clutch potential on the big stage.

I hope Canada doesn't take Lowry, a guy with a career high 35 points, or Wilson. I like Wilson and his style of play and is valuable in the playoffs, but I could also see him taking a shit penalty in a tie game or a penalty that starts a comeback. Verhaeghe, Laf and even longer shots like Hagel/Konecny or Byfield can provide checking/speed and skill.

The margins are thinner on the intl stage, if Wilson loses a team a game in the playoffs it isn't ideal but his value is him being able to wear down opponents throughout a series, as opposed to the olympics which is 6-8 games max and losing 1 game can mean the end of the tournament.

Hockey Canada seems to constantly overthink things though by trying to include grinder players or feel good stories. WJC is clear evidence of this, with guys like Allard and Minten, while Heidt, Cristall, Firkus got snubbed.

Although they do try rotate out more older experienced players to give younger guys a shot which is somewhat understandable considering its a young tourney. There's no excuse for this on the biggest stage of all though.
 
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While the goaltending is worrying to some degree I still believe Hill and Binnington, guys who do best in the playoffs and higher pressure situations, could get it done. While it would be great to have an actual solidified elite goaltender like the US or Russia, I think the strength of the roster in general will be able to compensate. MacKinnon, McDavid and Makar are possession monsters who have shown they can and will take over playoff series and games, as well as Bedard who has gamebreaking and clutch potential on the big stage.

I hope Canada doesn't take Lowry, a guy with a career high 35 points, or Wilson. I like Wilson and his style of play and is valuable in the playoffs, but I could also see him taking a shit penalty in a tie game or a penalty that starts a comeback. Verhaeghe, Laf and even longer shots like Hagel/Konecny or Byfield can provide checking/speed and skill.

The margins are thinner on the intl stage, if Wilson loses a team a game in the playoffs it isn't ideal but his value is him being able to wear down opponents throughout a series, as opposed to the olympics which is 6-8 games max and losing 1 game can mean the end of the tournament.

Hockey Canada seems to constantly overthink things though by trying to include grinder players or feel good stories. WJC is clear evidence of this, with guys like Allard and Minten, while Heidt, Cristall, Firkus got snubbed.

Although they do try rotate out more older experienced players to give younger guys a shot which is somewhat understandable considering its a young tourney. There's no excuse for this on the biggest stage of all though.
There's NO chance Wilson or Lowry is included. I like Hagel's chance. LAF, I love, but I'm not sure he goes at 23.

Canada's depth up front is insane. Sadly, Marchand is a lock and a wasted pick.
 

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A couple years ago, Canada's Best on Best team was looking OLD - Stamkos, Tavares, Sid, Marchand, Bergeron, Mark Stone, ROR, RNH, Jonathan Huberdeau and Zach Hyman. It was not a young team up front and many (myself included) were wondering, "Where are the young kids to push these 30 year old (plus) players out?".

2 years later and a bunch of young Canadian players have come out of no where! It's nice to see.

As for goaltending...

Hard to believe but the goaltending may have gotten WORSE !!! :facepalm:
I guess I was wrong about Monty, but our defense is beyond woeful too.

You're right...............it has gotten worse. We need a saviour
 

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I guess I was wrong about Monty, but our defense is beyond woeful too.

You're right...............it has gotten worse. We need a saviour
Re : "Monty"

Meh. It was one BAD(!) game.

Re : "our defense is beyond woeful too."

??? Why do you say that?
 
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Positives :

* Brad Marchand with the O.T. goal and an assist.

* Sam Reinhart with his 6th and 7th goal of the season.
* Mitch Marner with 3 assists.
* Colton Parayko with his first goal of the season - I want C.P. on Team Canada.

* After being ice cold, Sean Couturier with a Hat Trick and an assist.
* Braydon Point with his 5th goal.
* Bedard with his 3rd goal.

* Thomas Harley with an assist.
* Mark Stone, Alex Pietrangelo and Shea Theodore continue to rack up the points with Vegas.

* Matt Duchene with his 5th and 6th goal.

* Jared McCann with his 5th.
* Brett Howden with his 4th and 5th.
* Jake Neighbours heating up with his 4th goal.
* Travis Konecny with a goal and 4 assists.
* Seth Jarvis is heating up - 3rd goal and 3rd assist of the season.
* Cole Perfetti with his 3rd goal of the season.
* Brandt Clarke with his first goal. He also had an assist.

* Bowen Byram with his first goal.
* Jack Quinn with his first goal - all be it, an empty net.
* Connor Geekie with his first NHL goal.
* Arshdeep Bains with his first NHL goal.
* Dylan Guenther with an assist.
* Olen Zellweger with his first goal of the season.
* Logan Stankoven with an assist - Calder anyone?

Goalies :

* Sam Montembeault with a nice bounce back win against St Louis - a .935 SV%.
* Darcy Kuemper gave up 2 goals on 23 shots in the win against Utah.
* Connor Ingram gave up 3 goals on 20 shots in the loss to L.A..
* Jordan Binnington with a bad game - he gave up 4 on 25 shots.
* Eric Comrie gave up 3 goals in the game against Calgary.
* Scott Wedgewood gave up 3 goals in the win against Columbus.

Negatives :

* Byfield!
* Shane Wright.
 
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Anyone want to put together their teams for February?
Crosby-McDavid-Reinhart
Lafreniere-MacKinnon-Barzal
Bedard-Point-Stone
Marchand-ROR-Marner
Johnston
*Assuming Robert Thomas is out

Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Morrisey-Dobson
Weegar

Binnington
Skinner
Whoever is riding hot

Would have loved to included Hagel or Konecny instead of Marchand.
 

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Anyone want to put together their teams for February?
I posted this in the other thread, but just to post it here:

Marchand-Crosby-MacKinnon
Lafrenière-McDavid-Bédard
Johnston-Point-Stone
Reinhart-Thomas-Marner

(Bennett, Byfield, Stankoven, Kyrou, Jarvis, Cirelli, Verhaeghe, Barzal, Hagel, Hyman, Scheifele)

Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Morrisey-Harley(RH)

(Power, Guhle, Doughty,
Bouchard, Weegar, Dobson, Dunn, Parayko)

Binnington
Hill
(Skinner, Montembault)
 

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Canada is going to be an all star team with 4 elite forward lines, 3 elite defensive lines and 2 back up goalie :p
 

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