Are the Toronto Maple Leafs Stanley Cup contenders?

[General Fanager]

ha!!! He had no room to do anything. He left the 2023 -24 handcuffed. He blew his wad.
Nylander would have been his only move. And Dubas loves Nylander. Stated many times.
"Nothing is off the table" Doug Fords favorite line when he has no answer.

Marners no move had not kicked in yet, Nylander was a possibility and Matthews had not resigned.

there were options....he said nothing was off the table.

OK, let's buy this line that what happened in Toronto is all the fault of Dubas and it was Shanahan saving him from screwing things up more.

How long (much longer) of a leash does Shanahan get, now that he's brought in a hand-picked GM, who's kept the same coach, before we start [accurately] pointing the finger of blame for why the Leafs can't get their shit together at Shanahan? What has to happen before "you know what, maybe Dubas wasn't all the problem here" gets whispered?

it wont happen. most fans are buying the nonsense that The Leafs leak to the media.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Marners no move had not kicked in yet, Nylander was a possibility and Matthews had not resigned.

there were options....he said nothing was off the table.


it wont happen. most fans are buying the nonsense that The Leafs leak to the media.

Those are indeed facts. well, the media thing is not, but the player information is.

 

[PaulD]

Marners no move had not kicked in yet, Nylander was a possibility and Matthews had not resigned.

there were options....he said nothing was off the table.

That's not the debate.
I'm saying that Shanahan did not have to stop Dubas from trading Matthews or Nylander. Neither guy would have moved them.
So if you are implying Shanny and Kyle were at odds on the core . Do tell. There are always options but who did Dubas want to move that Shanny kiboshed?
Certainly not Austin not Willy.

 

[PaulD]

Marners no move had not kicked in yet, Nylander was a possibility and Matthews had not resigned.

there were options....he said nothing was off the table.


it wont happen. most fans are buying the nonsense that The Leafs leak to the media.

Did he say what was ON the table?? Sounds like you are implying Dubas wanted to blow up the core but Shanny would not allow it.
The entire hockey world knows neither Shanny or Kyle were ever going to trade Matthews. So Austin was off the table. Nylander was Dubas favorite, and Willy easily bent him over because of that last deal.
So who are you implying was "on the table" and Shanny would not alow Kyke to move him Marner?
Taveras?

 

[DRW895]

Not even close since Doug Gilmor, even earlier since late Pat Burn, left franchise

 

[General Fanager]

That's not the debate.
I'm saying that Shanahan did not have to stop Dubas from trading Matthews or Nylander. Neither guy would have moved them.
So if you are implying Shanny and Kyle were at odds on the core . Do tell. There are always options but who did Dubas want to move that Shanny kiboshed?
Certainly not Austin not Willy.

Mirtle: With Kyle Dubas gone, prepare for more Maple Leafs front-office fallout

The Maple Leafs' parting ways with Kyle Dubas is likely the beginning of front-office upheaval with the team.

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not the big 4 but Shanny blocked several deals

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

hate posts like these because Jones has been playing out of his mind. He was not responsible for any of the goals that occurred tonight. Every single one of them (Except for the flukey one) can be blamed on bad D coverage.

So the Leafs' hopes reside on a 34-year-old goalie who has had save % of .896, .896, .896, .900 and .886 the 5 previous seasons and a 25-year-old goalie with good stats but has missed significant time because of 3 serious injuries in his 4 1/2 pro career?

 

[snag]

You guys are celebrating beating that team while they were playing their third string goalie in Edmonton so it can’t be that bad.

Your goalie didn't lose it for you.

 

[TheNumber4]

That was not on him......hell, Matthews even leaned back to create the lane for it Can't always stop what you can't see....especially when the guys in front of you leave this hole.

Thanks again, Auston

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Mr. Selke ain’t risking his face to block a shot. He has Magazine photo shoots to consider, that is after all his priority.

Biggest fraud in Hockey.

 

[Fatass]

Not even close since Doug Gilmor, even earlier since late Pat Burn, left franchise

Loved his Gilmore in played. Reminded me of Keon. Just don’t see those kinds of guys in the current core. Tavares is closest.

 

[snag]

Unfortunately they wouldn’t.

It’s been so long the Leafs have won a few rounds.

After last year that was 20 rounds in 56 years.

Nice.

Anyway.... WON would be 2002-2003 for the Oilers. Leafs won a single round in 2004 and then last year.

Keep racking em up

 

[TheNumber4]

I think they should probably fire the Coach mid-season and then publicly strip John Tavares of the 'C' announcing that they have been unimpressed by his leadership and don't believe he is at this point fit to go forward as the Leafs captain. Leave the 'C' vacant the rest of the season.

They need to do something to wake the team up. Nylander seems happy to get his money, Matthews is happy that he'll make more than McDavid next season, Mitch Marner is a player that likes to win but doesn't hate to win and has always seemed content with how things go. A message should be sent, and Tavares is a good scapegoat while they are contractually hamstrung from trading away the golden boys.

They should have Pajama Boy Tavares bring all his Leafs bed sheets and pillows to Maple Leaf Square for a public burning as well. Really hammer the point through.

O-Dog can light the torch himself. That’ll teach him for aging!

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Christ I couldn’t make it past 90 seconds. How is this guy somewhat popular

I kinda like him.

He wears his heart out on his sleeve.

Signed: -Very far from a Leafs fan.

 

[TheNumber4]

Just watching Matthews on the highlights. Not sure where this guy got a reputation as a great two way player. That’s a pretty feeble effort on McLeod’s go ahead goal in the third.
You want to see more effort from your highly paid leaders.

The legend of Matthews 2 way elite ness has always been a fraud.

 

[TheNumber4]

Play the Leafs, get these vids

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Beat the Leafs, get these vids

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Lol the Bias at TSN is shameless. One more reason to say f*** The Leafs

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Yeah, no idea what Jones was doing.

2 of the 3 goals he allowed were bad. Well actually, 3 of the 4 goals he allowed were bad but luckily Hyman was too dumb to clear the zone forcing himself offside for no reason.

Says a Leafs fan who most probably wish they had someone with Hyman's heart on the team.

Their starting goaltender is injured

Isn't that his third major injury in his 4 1/2 year as a pro ?

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

The difference between the Leafs and Edmonton is Skinner is healthy while Woll is injured

But isn't that a constant with Woll?

 

[TheNumber4]

“After 42 games, I’m not sure if i can even rely on myself”

Buh Bye Keefe. Thanks for wasting 4 years of Matthews’ prime. And all the remaining years of Tavares’ prime.

 

[Devonator]

Right now, obviously the leafs are not a Cup contender....but if they were to trade one of their big 4 for d help or a sand paper type of forward, they could get things right again.....they have plenty of talent...its just the mix is not right.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

It takes a lot of things to go wrong for Edmonton to beat Toronto.

They haven’t won a season series against the Leafs in like 20 years. 2003 was the last time the Leafs had a losing record against Edmonton.

Aren't you one of those who always say that the past is the past. and that you have to look at today?

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

He’s been sporting an .875 the last few games -

And that's surprising given his history over the last five seasons?

And it's .882, not .875...

But you must be a graduate of sn unnamed politician University.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

You can't dance on other teams graves and then call for a lock when it's your turn. Take it to the chin

If you take a look at @34 recent posts, you'll realize that he's going for the reverse jinx.

 

[Divine]

Goalies are never in a standing position, when play is their end, they are in the crouch ready position.
Weird you didn’t know that.

Someone tell every goalie in the NHL. I think they’re missing the memo that they aren’t allowed to stand when the play is in their end.

I guess someone needs to tell Demko to sit down and make sure he can’t see.

 

[TheNumber4]

Right now, obviously the leafs are not a Cup contender....but if they were to trade one of their big 4 for d help or a sand paper type of forward, they could get things right again.....they have plenty of talent...its just the mix is not right.

Hm. They traded for a Top 4D in McCabe last year. And they added Domi, Reeves, and Bertuzzi as sand paper types already. Maybe just maybe there’s an issue with the core 4.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Joseph Woll is reaching "Josh Norris" level where the longer he is out injured, the more the legend of him grows.

HHOF Andrei Vasilevskiy gets major surgery and the Lightning struggle: "safe to say the Lightning are just done forever"

3rd round pick with 109 pro games, 76 % of which were in the AHL is out: "it's impossible to win without the star goaltender"

109 pro games in 4 1/2 pro seasons ?

Is he bad, or often injured ?