Anyone else concerned about Matthews?

[ACC1224]

Matthews is playing great defensively, scoring over a point per game and at a 40+ Goal pace, leading NHL forwards in blocked shots while probably dealing with a nagging injury.

Nice down year.

Players of his caliber and pay grade don’t get the luxury of a ‘down year’.

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Seeing this commercial during the game was hilarious.

Give him credit, effort was there that day.

 

[DarkKnight]

Matthews has such an amazing shot, he can score 40 a year with little effort. That’s the problem. He plays with this non chalant attitude that he can turn it on whenever he wants.

Also Keefe’s comments should put to rest this nagging injury excuse, unless desire is an ailment.

 

[horner]

Matthews has such an amazing shot, he can score 40 a year with little effort. That’s the problem. He plays with this non chalant attitude that he can turn it on whenever he wants.

Also Keefe’s comments should put to rest this nagging injury excuse, unless desire is an ailment.

Is there anything else going on outside of hockey that has him messed up or is this just mathews play when I want to?

 

[LeafsFan89]

Matthews is playing great defensively, scoring over a point per game and at a 40+ Goal pace, leading NHL forwards in blocked shots while probably dealing with a nagging injury.

Nice down year.

There's a difference in having a "down year" in terms of points, but yet still dominating/playing/being paid like a top 5 superstar, and just not playing with a purpose/intensity. I feel for the most of this year, it is the latter.

If he has an injury, he should be sitting out until it is healed. Period.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Is there anything else going on outside of hockey that has him messed up or is this just mathews play when I want to?

Pastrnaks baby freaking died and he went on to a 48 goal/95 point pace. How mentally soft is Matthews? I'm just sick of these excuses. SICK of them.

Outrageous contracts come with outrageous expectations. I do not ACCEPT Matthew's play this year. His play is unacceptable.

 

[horner]

At least we're FINALLY at the acceptance phase that Matthews sucks this year. The first half of this thread is primarily people in denial and saying things like "He's fine. This is proven by the fact he's been blocking shots sometimes." (Can't make this stuff up... lol)

Keefe essentially called the core out yesterday post-game for not playing with "purpose or intelligence". Was that a dig mostly at Matthews? Because that's PRECISELY how I would describe Matthews play yesterday. And if so, would the coach really do that to a player if he knows he's playing through an injury?

No matter what, it's not good. If it IS a nagging injury that can't be fixed until the off season, then that is REALLY bad for an "all in" season. If he's just mentally checked out, that's even worse. Shows how mentally soft he is and that's a major problem for the playoffs. If he just wants out of town, that's the worst of all.

And the "saving it for the playoffs" is something I won't ever address. I've literally never heard of such a thing in over 30 years of being a hockey fan. It's something leaf fans have only very recently made up out of thin air when Matthews started sucking. Look at the big name superstars and the seasons they're having. None of THEM are (lol) "saving it for the playoffs". No fans of other teams are saying things like "Pasta... McDavid... Point... calm down. Save it for the playoffs." It's an INSANE thing to claim. I sometimes feel like a lot of people in leaf forum are bots designed to drive me crazy.

If he wants out he can be a big boy and tell Dubas.
The amount of picks we get and propect would be insane.
Just don't sign you deal and check out.

 

[Niagara Bill]

Is there anything else going on outside of hockey that has him messed up or is this just mathews play when I want to?

It is always 1 of 2 things.
Money, he is planning, his agent is planning, blackmail or I am rich enough
Sex, either the girls have him distracted or he is concerned about which side of the fence he is on.
Oops #3, booze or legal pot. (not drugs, he is tested).

 

[ER89]

Pastrnaks baby freaking died and he went on to a 48 goal/95 point pace. I'm just sick of these excuses. SICK of them.

Outrageous contracts come with outrageous expectations. I do not ACCEPT Matthew's play this year. His play is unacceptable.

THIS.

So much losing due to a shit attitude.
Keefe is also a moron. But hey the prisoners run the ship when you coddle the f*** outta them ever since they were drafted.

 

[Notsince67]

Matthews is playing great defensively, scoring over a point per game and at a 40+ Goal pace, leading NHL forwards in blocked shots while probably dealing with a nagging injury.

Nice down year.

Truth is that his defense has suffered more. He is actually bad defensively...and I'm a fan b4 anyone decides to take a swipe.

 

[All Mod Cons]

At least we're FINALLY at the acceptance phase that Matthews sucks this year. The first half of this thread is primarily people in denial and saying things like "He's fine. This is proven by the fact he's been blocking shots sometimes." (Can't make this stuff up... lol)

Keefe essentially called the core out yesterday post-game for not playing with "purpose or intelligence". Was that a dig mostly at Matthews? Because that's PRECISELY how I would describe Matthews play yesterday. And if so, would the coach really do that to a player if he knows he's playing through an injury?

No matter what, it's not good. If it IS a nagging injury that can't be fixed until the off season, then that is REALLY bad for an "all in" season. If he's just mentally checked out, that's even worse. Shows how mentally soft he is and that's a major problem for the playoffs. If he just wants out of town, that's the worst of all.

And the "saving it for the playoffs" is something I won't ever address. I've literally never heard of such a thing in over 30 years of being a hockey fan. It's something leaf fans have only very recently made up out of thin air when Matthews started sucking. Look at the big name superstars and the seasons they're having. None of THEM are (lol) "saving it for the playoffs". No fans of other teams are saying things like "Pasta... McDavid... Point... calm down. Save it for the playoffs." It's an INSANE thing to claim. I sometimes feel like a lot of people in leaf forum are bots designed to drive me crazy.

I think we coined that phrase along with "own rental".

 

[Deez Nuts]

This guy is Seguin 2.0. If he was drafted by Boston he would be long gone.

What also sucks is that it will be nearly impossible to trade him in the off season for a good return.

This guy will walk next year. Book it.

 

[Jojalu]

Pastrnaks baby freaking died and he went on to a 48 goal/95 point pace. How mentally soft is Matthews? I'm just sick of these excuses. SICK of them.

Outrageous contracts come with outrageous expectations. I do not ACCEPT Matthew's play this year. His play is unacceptable.

He is a having a bad year. It happens. It's not unacceptable, it's not unprecendented.

Kane 4 year stretch

82 46-60-106
82 34--55-89
82 27-49-76
81- 44-56-100

Crosby

80-36-68-104
77- 28-56-84
80- 36-48-85
79 35-65-100

Ovie

72 50-59-109
79 32-55-85
78 38-27-65

All 3 includex in top 100 players of all time. All 3 one of highest paid players while going through down years. I can list way more.

Athletes in every sport have bad years no matter what they are paid. It just happens

 

[DarkKnight]

I’ve always been amazed at the selective criticism. Big sexy largely gets a free pass, Mitch a lighting rod. Guess what, last playoffs nobody faded worse than 34, when the going got tough he was invisible, passing the puck, he didn’t want to touch it. Marner needed to do more and he took the vitriol, but if you were being fair, Matthews was worse and in my mind that’s a stone cold fact. This year, I see the same tendencies, when it flows, look out, when we need him to put the team on his back during adverse moments, he’s nowhere to be found. Like last night.

He’s an incredible talent, the best release I’ve ever seen, defensively he’s been fine, but he isn’t a leader and he isn’t the engine he needs to be to justify his contract and “superstar” status. Let’s hope he figures that out, because we can’t win without him.

 

[leafs in five]

when does the Bieber x Matthews doco come out

 

[Niagara Bill]

Has a core player been told they are in play to be traded? Are they all sulking because of this? Dubas has free rein and nothing to lose and maybe very vindictive, bye WN.?

 

[leafs in five]

What also sucks is that it will be nearly impossible to trade him in the off season for a good return.

Damn that does suck

 

[horner]

It is always 1 of 2 things.
Money, he is planning, his agent is planning, blackmail or I am rich enough
Sex, either the girls have him distracted or he is concerned about which side of the fence he is on.
Oops #3, booze or legal pot. (not drugs, he is tested).

Okay just checking

 

[leafs in five]

that sure is a throw more waffles post

 

[horner]

He is a having a bad year. It happens. It's not unacceptable, it's not unprecendented.

Kane 4 year stretch

82 46-60-106
82 34--55-89
82 27-49-76
81- 44-56-100

Crosby

80-36-68-104
77- 28-56-84
80- 36-48-85
79 35-65-100

Ovie

72 50-59-109
79 32-55-85
78 38-27-65

All 3 includex in top 100 players of all time. All 3 one of highest paid players while going through down years. I can list way more.

Athletes in every sport have bad years no matter what they are paid. It just happens

All three have won a cop some twice and 3 times...

We haven't won a round

It's a bad time of the yr to be average

If he had signed an 8 yr deal years ago, I don't think people would be questioning so much.

The clock is ticking

 

[DarkKnight]

All three have won a cop some twice and 3 times...

We haven't won a round

It's a bad time of the yr to be average

If he had signed an 8 yr deal years ago, I don't think people would be questioning so much.

The clock is ticking

Comparing him to those three at this point is embarrassing.

I still love the guy, he’s a treasure to have, but he just leaves me wanting at times and that’s a fair critique, it doesn’t equate to hate.

 

[Bomber0104]

He is a having a bad year. It happens. It's not unacceptable, it's not unprecendented.

Kane 4 year stretch

82 46-60-106
82 34--55-89
82 27-49-76
81- 44-56-100

Crosby

80-36-68-104
77- 28-56-84
80- 36-48-85
79 35-65-100

Ovie

72 50-59-109
79 32-55-85
78 38-27-65

All 3 includex in top 100 players of all time. All 3 one of highest paid players while going through down years. I can list way more.

Athletes in every sport have bad years no matter what they are paid. It just happens

You may want to look at league scoring during those years for those players.

You're claiming some of those were "bad" years for said players, when they're leading or nearly leading the league in scoring and the league was at a historical low for goals-scored per game.

Sorry, but nowadays going a point-per-game, heck even 100 points, isn't nearly as impressive when league scoring is the highest it's been since 93/94...

 

[Jojalu]

All three have won a cop some twice and 3 times...

We haven't won a round

It's a bad time of the yr to be average

If he had signed an 8 yr deal years ago, I don't think people would be questioning so much.

The clock is ticking

It is a bad time. No doubt

 

[LeafsandSharksfan]

If you want to argue his point production in a down year is adequate then fine, but the reality is if he is not leading the charge for us as a difference maker in the playoffs our chances of winning are very slim.

 

[Jojalu]

You may want to look at league scoring during those years for those players.

You're claiming some of those were "bad" years for said players, when they're leading or nearly leading the league in scoring.

Sorry, but going a point-per-game, heck even 100 points, isn't nearly as impressive when league scoring is the highest it's been since 93/94...

There is no denying Matthews is having a bad year for him.

The point is players have up and down years. Good players will bounce back.

Kane and Crosby going from 100 points to years 20 points below back to 100 is a reason to be optimistic.

Even Pasta went from winning the Rocket and 98 points to a 77 point season and is now back to himself.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

He is a having a bad year. It happens. It's not unacceptable, it's not unprecendented.

Kane 4 year stretch

82 46-60-106
82 34--55-89
82 27-49-76
81- 44-56-100

Crosby

80-36-68-104
77- 28-56-84
80- 36-48-85
79 35-65-100

Ovie

72 50-59-109
79 32-55-85
78 38-27-65

All 3 includex in top 100 players of all time. All 3 one of highest paid players while going through down years. I can list way more.

Athletes in every sport have bad years no matter what they are paid. It just happens

Kane and Crosby had already won cups for their teams. We'd all be giving Matthews a big break this off-season if he had won us 2 cups by now.

Ovechkin took A LOT of heat for his no show in 2011. There were hit pieces about how he spent the entire summer partying and chasing girls.

Don't demand to be paid as McDavid's equal (when term is included) and then get HALF as many goals and points. How dare he. Outrageous contracts come with outrageous expectations.