Value of: Any bad contract with 3 years term or less to the Blackhawks.

[Castle8130]

Hawks are looking for literally any cap dumps that are attached with 2023 and 2024 firsts and seconds. We would also be willing to listen on some u24 players for non-first round picks (we can't trade those yet).

Keep listing them. What would the Penguins be willing to trade with Granlund and Carter? What would the caps being willing to trade to get rid of Backstrom? Maybe Backstrom + 8th oa for the 19th oa? Or just a 2024 1st?

 

[doublechili]

FWIW, from a long time Isles fan, the Cup teams were set up by the vets on the mid-70s team that played with the young, future Cup winners. Guys like Westfall, Parise, Drouin, Marshall, Hart, etc., set up the kids for success. So, if I were CHI's GM, I'd be less interested in what a cap dump can do on the ice versus their all-around impact on the ice and as role models.

Now, if Josh Bailey happens to fit the description of the kind of guy I'm talking about, so be it.

 

[bernmeister]

Not sure we could afford what you'd have a right to demand, but Panarin has 3 seasons after this

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Petry (2x6.25m left) and Carter (1x3.125m left)+ 2023 3rd and 2024 2nd for 2024 7th

Pens clear 9.5m in cap space. Chicago gets 2 veterans and some draft picks

 

[Diamonddog01]

Boeser and Garland. Not adding picks to them but not expecting much either. Maybe a 3rd for the pair.

 

[Castle8130]

Boeser and Garland. Not adding picks to them but not expecting much either. Maybe a 3rd for the pair.

If these guy's games have really fallen off, I'm not really interested in 11.5 mill worth of defensive liabilities for a 3rd round pick. That's too much cap space for the next two years for such little return.

 

[Diamonddog01]

If these guy's games have really fallen off, I'm not really interested in 11.5 mill worth of defensive liabilities for a 3rd round pick. That's too much cap space for the next two years for such little return.

Boeser yes, Garland no. Garland is a solid ES producer and fine defensively. Boeser can rack up the points but is certainly a flawed player. Both are legit top 6 players despite their shortcomings however - you won't find cheaper top 6 wingers out there imo (in terms of cost) and both don't have much too much term. When you have Jason Dickinson and Buddy Robinson has your two top right wingers I think it's fair.

 

[WannabeFinn]

I get not wanting to throw money unjustifiably in free agency, but taking on bad contracts for the duration of Bedard's ELC seems bold

 

[EK392000]

I get not wanting to throw money unjustifiably in free agency, but taking on bad contracts for the duration of Bedard's ELC seems bold

They don’t have the talent to compete on Bedard’s ELC anyway. And it’s probably wise to not use cap space to build through free agency. You’ll be left with inflated contracts and no cap space in no time.

At least this way, they’re getting some vets/warm bodies to reach the cap floor + draft capital to help restock the cupboards and get a wave of youth to follow Bedard.

This team is gonna suck for a little while LOL unless every goal Bedard scores is a gwg.

 

[CapsFrontOffice]

Backstrom has a NMC. Good luck getting him to waive that.

It would be pretty easy getting him to waive if he decides he is going to still play when the alternative to that is a buy out and career ender.

 

[tomd]

Quite honestly I think there are many GM's who won't do Chicago any favors after they won the lottery. Chicago isn't the only team in the league that has cap space.

 

[Drumman44]

Quite honestly I think there are many GM's who won't do Chicago any favors after they won the lottery. Chicago isn't the only team in the league that has cap space.

NHL GM's are like Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog. They may pretend to be adversaries but they're all just coworkers who keep the league afloat making trades, signing free agents, and attending league meetings.

They punch in, do their jobs, and punch out

Any hard feelings about the draft lottery won't stay too long.

 

[tomd]

NHL GM's are like Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog. They may pretend to be adversaries but they're all just coworkers who keep the league afloat making trades, signing free agents, and attending league meetings.

They punch in, do their jobs, and punch out

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Any hard feelings about the draft lottery won't stay too long.

Not hard feelings but doing them no favors either.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Nashville has no cap reason to move Johansen, but Trotz had some pretty poignant remarks that make me believe Johansen is going to get on board or be gone. He's not a bad buyout price, but they have enough capital and prospects that he could be moved without us really feeling it. He's a fine 2C in my opinion. Fine is another word for meh, ok, or I guess...in this scenario.

What would it cost to take him?

 

[rajiabu]

Kuznetsov is available, would be a good fit

 

[Guffman]

Blake Wheeler with a third round pick. 1 year, $8,250,000 contract. You probably can flip him for up to a 2nd round pick at the TDL with 50% retention.

 

[miscs75]

The New York Islanders have Joshua Bailey from Bowmanville, Ontario available. He makes five million for the 2023-24 NHL season and is then an unrestricted free agent following that. He could be had for a promise of sending more damaged goods to the New York Rangers to help them implode in the playoffs early on again.

 

[Space umpire]

Not sure we could afford what you'd have a right to demand, but Panarin has 3 seasons after this

Panarin is very much NOT a Davidson type of player. If it was a year, then maybe but I don’t think they would want him around what they are trying to build.

Blake Wheeler with a third round pick. 1 year, $8,250,000 contract. You probably can flip him for up to a 2nd round pick at the TDL with 50% retention.

Blake Wheeler with a 1st rd pick for a 2nd and 4th.

The New York Islanders have Joshua Bailey from Bowmanville, Ontario available. He makes five million for the 2023-24 NHL season and is then an unrestricted free agent following that. He could be had for a promise of sending more damaged goods to the New York Rangers to help them implode in the playoffs early on again.

Bailey and a 1st rd pick for a 2nd rd pick.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Blake Wheeler with a third round pick. 1 year, $8,250,000 contract. You probably can flip him for up to a 2nd round pick at the TDL with 50% retention.

Jesus, it would cost a 1st to dump that with Chi returning a 3rd.

 

[bernmeister]

Panarin is very much NOT a Davidson type of player. If it was a year, then maybe but I don’t think they would want him around what they are trying to build. ....

Have had further thoughts since I posted.
bread to Avs by way of CHI, so they get to retain half and up value of his return

Panarin full pop + LaF
for
NYR 2023 2nd
CHI 2023, 2024, 2025 2nds
NYR 2025 4th

you keep LaF (for now at least) and see how he works Bedard, maybe you get lucky on finding good linemate there

and you sell bread to Colorado
they are thin on picks atm, but you should be able to make a package of pix, prospects that works

NY will be happy w/cap relief and explore various options

 

[TGWL]

1 yr at 5 mil? I’d do it if you include a 3rd that turns into a 2nd if they trade or re-sign.

You can't do the latter anymore as already stated, and you probably can't do the former. Like a team is trading you a better pick if you're able to trade him? Can't see the league letting you shit all over the player you're getting just to get a better pick.

 

[Lt Dan]

Cal Petersen come on down!

 

[Mrfenn92]

Have had further thoughts since I posted.
bread to Avs by way of CHI, so they get to retain half and up value of his return

Panarin full pop + LaF
for
NYR 2023 2nd
CHI 2023, 2024, 2025 2nds
NYR 2025 4th

you keep LaF (for now at least) and see how he works Bedard, maybe you get lucky on finding good linemate there

and you sell bread to Colorado
they are thin on picks atm, but you should be able to make a package of pix, prospects that works

NY will be happy w/cap relief and explore various options

No thank you from Chicago

 

[Zynbanejad]

Have had further thoughts since I posted.
bread to Avs by way of CHI, so they get to retain half and up value of his return

Panarin full pop + LaF
for
NYR 2023 2nd
CHI 2023, 2024, 2025 2nds
NYR 2025 4th

you keep LaF (for now at least) and see how he works Bedard, maybe you get lucky on finding good linemate there

and you sell bread to Colorado
they are thin on picks atm, but you should be able to make a package of pix, prospects that works

NY will be happy w/cap relief and explore various options

Classic bern post. Rangers aren't just tossing Laf in a trade like that lmao might as well ride it out and see how he does next season.

 

[Guffman]

Jesus, it would cost a 1st to dump that with Chi returning a 3rd.

Wheeler had 55 points in 72 games (6 points in 5 games).

You think the Jets would attach a first to move him for one year? The Jets are likely getting a 2nd round pick for him at the TDL with 50% retention.

Essentially, what your big brain is saying that Chicago should get a 1st and 2nd round pick, while only eating half his contract after the TDL. LMAO!