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Anson Carter unveils Alpharetta Sports and Entertainment looking to bring expansion team to Atlanta

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MrHeiskanen said:
Who is funding this? The only group of the people listed that seems to have a lot of money is Zeigler with 84 automotive dealerships. I'm sure he has good money, but is it pro sports money?

Carter doesn't have money, the other two groups own a bunch of minor league baseball and hockey teams.. funding an ECHL team is a lot different than an NHL club.
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They will put together a group of private equity investors most likely, e.g., 15 investors at $100M each would probably raise enough dough to pay the expansion fee and start-up costs until they start to cash flow. There is so much funny-money wealth in the Atlanta area that it probably wouldn't take more than a week to raise it.
 
Looks like we're on a path to a 34 (SLC, Atlanta), then eventually a 36 team NHL. At that point, having less than 50% of the teams making the playoffs will be used as an argument for a play-in round.

Money talks and the owners will approve anything that increases revenues and their franchise values.
 
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SnuggaRUDE said:
Quebec City and Montreal have each lost as many NHL teams as Atlanta
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You didn't come here and say this as a serious comment, right ?



Atlanta and/or the state of Georgia seems to be growing, so sure, give them a 3rd try, but not as an expansion team, but rather a team moved there.

Hockey is pretty f***ing diluded already you're just making it worse..
 
There’s not enough talent to spread out for 33-34 teams yet. I actually think it’s been starting to get a tad dry since Seattle joined. The league was watered down in early 2000s with the amount of expansion.
 
I'm all for it.

I think NHL expansion of today is much different than previous eras. Obviously much better data and analytics available for acquiring organizations, and with the steep new franchise fee these tend to be smart folks serious about building for success.
 
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Frank the Tank said:
Looks like we're on a path to a 34 (SLC, Atlanta), then eventually a 36 team NHL. At that point, having less than 50% of the teams making the playoffs will be used as an argument for a play-in round.

Money talks and the owners will approve anything that increases revenues and their franchise values.
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too bad the NHL will never get popular because of 34-36 teams
 
Viqsi said:
Cue all the jealous fans of O6 and Canadian teams whining "but relocated twice WAHHH HOW DARE THEY" even tho both times were forced by bad ownership rather than fan support, followed shortly thereafter by frustrated fans of Unapproved Teams making veiled comments about Winnipeg even though it's solid financially despite the overhyped attendance stuff and not going anywhere.
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I think it's more that most fans will argue that the league needs to fix current franchise problems like the Coyotes before expanding again.

Also, why would fans of O6 and Canadian teams be jealous of Atlanta getting a third expansion team? Wouldn't those fans already have teams?
 
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TheDawnOfANewTage said:
Seriously, and then people balk at the idea that racism might be a concern amongst some hockey fans.

“We can’t go to Atlanta, for.. demographic reasons. That’s a normal thing to say without further explanation.”
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Demographics and racism are two different things. In what different reality do you live in from the rest of us where demographic isn't an issue when it comes to where you put a sports team?

You can't put a MLB team in Europe because nobody give a toss about boreball in Europe.

That's reality, not some made up xenophobia.
 
sxvnert said:
The demographics trend in Metro Atlanta area will ensure failure in the long term. Utah should be the next team.
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You mean to say, all the people moving to this market from established markets, such as New York, Philadelphia, and my hometown of Detroit would actually cause Potential Atlanta NHL Franchise 3.0 to fail?

That's a really odd position to take. What, praytell, am I missing here?

ItWasJustified said:
Demographics and racism are two different things. In what different reality do you live in from the rest of us where demographic isn't an issue when it comes to where you put a sports team?

You can't put a MLB team in Europe because nobody give a toss about boreball in Europe.

That's reality, not some made up xenophobia.
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Sure, except the departure of two NHL teams from the Atlanta market had nothing to do with the fans or the demographics of the region, which makes that comparison to the MLB in Europe laughable at best.

So, care to try again?
 
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ItWasJustified said:
Demographics and racism are two different things. In what different reality do you live in from the rest of us where demographic isn't an issue when it comes to where you put a sports team?

You can't put a MLB team in Europe because nobody give a toss about boreball in Europe.

That's reality, not some made up xenophobia.
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Someone else posted the demographics where they have the fastest growing young economy in the US. Demographics aren’t the issue.
 
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Rob Brown said:
I think it's more that most fans will argue that the league needs to fix current franchise problems like the Coyotes before expanding again.

Also, why would fans of O6 and Canadian teams be jealous of Atlanta getting a third expansion team? Wouldn't those fans already have teams?
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You'd have to ask the complaining fans themselves why the idea of an Atlanta team is so utterly horrible. It's difficult, though, as they never give a straight or consistent answer and cross-examination only gets you circular logic and anger.
 
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Rob Brown said:
I think it's more that most fans will argue that the league needs to fix current franchise problems like the Coyotes before expanding again.

Also, why would fans of O6 and Canadian teams be jealous of Atlanta getting a third expansion team? Wouldn't those fans already have teams?
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The two aren’t related. It takes years for the expansion process to play out. An arena needs to be built. If you’ve got a good bid, you don’t put that on hold for an issue in another market. You might lose it entirely.

Priority one for Arizona is staying put. If that can’t be worked out, SLC and QC are both fallback options.

Edit: And realistically we know that’s just their way of trying to put a cap on the number of southern teams by making the league choose between Arizona and Atlanta. The league doesn’t want to choose. They want both.
 
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sxvnert said:
The demographics trend in Metro Atlanta area will ensure failure in the long term. Utah should be the next team.
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First of all we all know what you're trying to say with this.

2nd of all, if you did any basic research, you would realize that the team would be in Alpharetta, Georgia, and not specifically in Atlanta, Georgia.

Go on Google, type in Alpharetta demographics, and get back to me
 
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