Andrew Brunette DUI video released

[ninetyeight]

What charade? People are saying he got what he deserved, no one's furious or up in arms. Seems like more people are up in arms about the cop for some reason.

I was mostly talking about the few from this thread and the first thread combined. Especially "golf cart's are no joke" people. With some googling there are less than 10 annual US deaths from golf carts and none reported from traffic accidents. A lot of injuries (mostly for the drivers themselves), but you can find deaths and injuries on pretty much anything that enough people do. The guy claiming that several people die in his neighborhood from golf cart dui's every year, should probably move.

 

[NorthStar4Canes]

I was mostly talking about the few from this thread and the first thread combined. Especially "golf cart's are no joke" people. With some googling there are less than 10 annual US deaths from golf carts and none reported from traffic accidents. A lot of injuries (mostly for the drivers themselves), but you can find deaths and injuries on pretty much anything that enough people do. The guy claiming that several people die in his neighborhood from golf cart dui's every year, should probably move.

Funny, in my first google search after reading this the first article popping up is an accident reported only 11 days ago on April 10th in Collier County, Florida, a traffic accident involving a golf cart with 9 people riding in it. 1 golf cart passenger dead and the other 8 hospitalised.

Time to change the oil in your Google machine.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Its actually crazy that you can drive a golf cart on public roads. Florida gonna Florida.

The accident referenced above by @NorthStar4Canes had a golf cart on a public road with 9 people on it being rear ended by a passenger vehicle. I'm assuming, with that amount of people, and the time of the crash, that alcohol was a factor. Its quite possible that if they didn't have the "its just a golf cart" attitude they may not have all piled into a passenger vehicle to get to where they needed to be.

A golf cart.

On this highway. Surely that can't be legal.

 

[Toby91ca]

Funny, in my first google search after reading this the first article popping up is an accident reported only 11 days ago on April 10th in Collier County, a traffic accident involving a golf cart with 9 people riding in it. 1 golf cart passenger dead and the other 8 hospitalised.

Time to change the oil in your Google machine.

But also, why is death the only potential issue?

Long-story short here.....crazy the amount of people suggesting the cop is the worst guy here....lots of overly aggressive cops out there, was his tone or approach annoying at times, perhaps, but it's not like Bruno was assaulted/tackled/tased, etc.....that's what you expect when you hear about how a cop escalated a situation. Then you have people saying no one got hurt, no victim, therefore nothing wrong. End of the day, he's getting a citation for DUI, his life will go on, mostly uninterrupted....big difference vs. if there was a victim that you killed driving drunk....then you are looking at manslaughter.

 

[Bernie Federko]

Talk to Erik Johnson about golf cart danger

 

[DaaaaB's]

I was mostly talking about the few from this thread and the first thread combined. Especially "golf cart's are no joke" people. With some googling there are less than 10 annual US deaths from golf carts and none reported from traffic accidents. A lot of injuries (mostly for the drivers themselves), but you can find deaths and injuries on pretty much anything that enough people do. The guy claiming that several people die in his neighborhood from golf cart dui's every year, should probably move.

I agree with your last sentence but I'm not sure I trust those numbers you're googling. They also wouldn't include the many golf cart accidents that don't get reported because the driver was drunk and no one was killed. In some cases, lucky that no one was killed.

But also, why is death the only potential issue?

Long-story short here.....crazy the amount of people suggesting the cop is the worst guy here....lots of overly aggressive cops out there, was his tone or approach annoying at times, perhaps, but it's not like Bruno was assaulted/tackled/tased, etc.....that's what you expect when you hear about how a cop escalated a situation. Then you have people saying no one got hurt, no victim, therefore nothing wrong. End of the day, he's getting a citation for DUI, his life will go on, mostly uninterrupted....big difference vs. if there was a victim that you killed driving drunk....then you are looking at manslaughter.

Well said, and if Brunette wasn't a rich white guy he would've got a lot more than a couple f-bombs dropped on him. This thread certainly shows that this site has a lot of users who are entitled white people.

 

[NorthStar4Canes]

Its actually crazy that you can drive a golf cart on public roads. Florida gonna Florida.

The accident referenced above by @NorthStar4Canes had a golf cart on a public road with 9 people on it being rear ended by a passenger vehicle. I'm assuming, with that amount of people, and the time of the crash, that alcohol was a factor. Its quite possible that if they didn't have the "its just a golf cart" attitude they may not have all piled into a passenger vehicle to get to where they needed to be.

A golf cart.

On this highway. Surely that can't be legal.

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Yikes that indeed looks like you'd have to be crazy or drunk as hell to get out there, especially at night. Agree with the rest.

Also, 2nd hit my Google machine...August 9 2022, Galveston TX. Family of 4 in a golf cart dead, hit by a drunk driver who failed to stop at an intersection. Seems like being too drunk to stop at intersections can matter a lot after all.

And another, June 17th 2022, Statesville NC. 3 dead, a father, 5 year old son and 14 year old, after their golf cart was hit by a drunk driver. 3 other passengers 2 to 26 years old hospitalized.

Dec 21 2022, Palm Beach FL, 1 dead after his golf cart hit by hit-and-run driver.

Aug 15, 2022, Kinderhook NY, 1 fatal, driver of golf cart dead after they entered another roadway and collided with a car.

Oct 3, 2022, Welch OK, 1 dead, the driver of golf cart who tried to cross a road and hit a truck, ejected, then got run over by truck's trailer.

So I'm not sure what ninetyeight was talking about when he said less than 10 fatalities per year and none reported from traffic accidents, when within 5 minutes of little-effort searching I found around a dozen golf cart-traffic accident fatalities within less than a year.

A simple google search triggers multiple hits, there's a lot more than I cited so I stopped at about a dozen. There are plenty of other fatalities that don't involve collision with other cars, but collisions with something or people just falling out of them. It's easy to be ejected from a golf cart.

It's clear that some people just make stuff up.

 

[Lua]

At least the cop managed to make the arrest without shooting anybody, stick taps for that

 

[Dirty Dog]

The voice sounds like a voice over

 

[rt]

Maybe police don't investigate them with the seriousness of a motor vehicle on the road because if you're drunk and on a bicycle and crash, you're (1) probably not going more than about 10 mph because you don't have the coordination to ride faster, and (2) even if you're going faster, when you crash you're probably taking out you and your 175 lbs. along with a 5-7 lb. bike. Compare that to being drunk in a motor vehicle on the road, where you're controlling an object with at least 2500 lbs. of weight - a lot more if we're talking about an SUV - and can easily propel that to 35 mph, 50 mph, 85 mph and generate an incredible amount of force that does an incredible amount of damage when it collides with another object or a person.

Of course, they also probably don't investigate them with the same seriousness because there's not some daily rash of drunk college kids and homeless people on bikes and scooters everywhere in every big city like it's Day of the Zombies - because, as I have pointed out a few times now, people are lazy and will find whatever item gets them from A to B with the least amount of effort, riding a bike is not some easy task even sober, the number of motorized scooters in the hands of even college students is small, and the number in the hands of homeless people is exceedingly small.


Define "lots of people die while drunk walking." Are we talking about 100,000? 10,000? Or like 100, if that?

More people die while walking drunk than do while driving golf carts drunk. I bet it’s 100x more.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Can't understand why this thread hasn't been closed, it hasn't been about hockey for quite a while.

The mods are probably busy with the playoff board

 

[rt]

Its actually crazy that you can drive a golf cart on public roads. Florida gonna Florida.

The accident referenced above by @NorthStar4Canes had a golf cart on a public road with 9 people on it being rear ended by a passenger vehicle. I'm assuming, with that amount of people, and the time of the crash, that alcohol was a factor. Its quite possible that if they didn't have the "its just a golf cart" attitude they may not have all piled into a passenger vehicle to get to where they needed to be.

A golf cart.

On this highway. Surely that can't be legal.

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Yes that sounds like exactly what the context of this situation was. Haha

Can't understand why this thread hasn't been closed, it hasn't been about hockey for quite a while.

It never was.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Funny, in my first google search after reading this the first article popping up is an accident reported only 11 days ago on April 10th in Collier County, Florida, a traffic accident involving a golf cart with 9 people riding in it. 1 golf cart passenger dead and the other 8 hospitalised.

Time to change the oil in your Google machine.

You mean this one, where an SUV rammed into the cart from behind??

1 dead, 8 injured in golf cart crash on Collier Boulevard

Florida Highway Patrol (FHP) is investigating a fatal crash involving a golf cart in Collier County.

www.fox4now.com

According to the traffic report, the SUV was behind the golf cart and collided with it from behind and it overturned. At this time another vehicle was involved and hit the hood portion of the golf cart.

Imagine if the SUV plowed into a tricycle, you'd be hollering about that darn third wheel for weeks.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Its actually crazy that you can drive a golf cart on public roads. Florida gonna Florida.

The accident referenced above by @NorthStar4Canes had a golf cart on a public road with 9 people on it being rear ended by a passenger vehicle. I'm assuming, with that amount of people, and the time of the crash, that alcohol was a factor. Its quite possible that if they didn't have the "its just a golf cart" attitude they may not have all piled into a passenger vehicle to get to where they needed to be.

A golf cart.

On this highway. Surely that can't be legal.

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Yes, automobiles are dangerous when they collide with you. Nobody should be operating anything other than a car on a highway.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Can't understand why this thread hasn't been closed, it hasn't been about hockey for quite a while.

It's not hurting anything, and it's about as much about hockey as it was at the start.

It doesn't have much left, I'll give you that. I had so much fun reading the last five pages that I got a nosebleed.

 

[PunchImlach is Alive]

They should just ban golf carts. You want a little car to ride around in like a baby? What a googoo gaga unserious sport.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Yes that sounds like exactly what the context of this situation was. Haha

Well he was on the same road that a police cruiser was on. Maybe we should have soft rules, you can drive a golf cart home if you're "close" to home. Or if you feel it's safe. Kinda negotiable you know? You just explain to the officer your situation and he uses judgement. If you're a nice guy and you say you're close to home, he lets you go.

If you decide to stop and get cigarettes on the way home and get hit on the way there, you just should have known better. In your inebriated state.

Yes, automobiles are dangerous when they collide with you. Nobody should be operating anything other than a car on a highway.

Not even a tricycle?

More people die while walking drunk than do while driving golf carts drunk. I bet it’s 100x more.

Ban walking

 

[rt]

Seems like being drunk on a golf cart should be more like a drunken negligence charge or something lesser than a DUI. It’s a dumb thing to do but it’s not even close to driving a car drunk.

I don’t really care, though. I don’t golf and I don’t drink.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Seems like being drunk on a golf cart should be more like a drunken negligence charge or something lesser than a DUI. It’s a dumb thing to do but it’s not even close to driving a car drunk.

I don’t really care, though. I don’t golf and I don’t drink.

Well I'm just wondering how you punish the guy who drives a golf cart or rides a bike drunk but doesn't have a license

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Maybe police don't investigate them with the seriousness of a motor vehicle on the road because if you're drunk and on a bicycle and crash, you're (1) probably not going more than about 10 mph because you don't have the coordination to ride faster, and (2) even if you're going faster, when you crash you're probably taking out you and your 175 lbs. along with a 5-7 lb. bike. Compare that to being drunk in a motor vehicle on the road, where you're controlling an object with at least 2500 lbs. of weight - a lot more if we're talking about an SUV - and can easily propel that to 35 mph, 50 mph, 85 mph and generate an incredible amount of force that does an incredible amount of damage when it collides with another object or a person.

Of course, they also probably don't investigate them with the same seriousness because there's not some daily rash of drunk college kids and homeless people on bikes and scooters everywhere in every big city like it's Day of the Zombies - because, as I have pointed out a few times now, people are lazy and will find whatever item gets them from A to B with the least amount of effort, riding a bike is not some easy task even sober, the number of motorized scooters in the hands of even college students is small, and the number in the hands of homeless people is exceedingly small.

That’s just not true. Where I live in Boulder/Denver the number is quite equal, and the amount of dangerous people on bikes and scooters is higher than vehicles. This is true in other big cities I have been to.

I think we agree on why the cops don’t investigate them to the same degree, but you seem to think it’s a rare case. I can assure you if you travel outside of your bubble you will realize how exceedingly commonplace this is.

 

[DaaaaB's]

More people die while walking drunk than do while driving golf carts drunk. I bet it’s 100x more.

That's probably not true and even if it is the number of people who walk drunk is probably about 100,000x more than people who drive golf carts drunk so your point is completely irrelevant. Generally, drunk people walking don't cause car accidents but that point seems to be completely lost on you.

 

[PeE eL DuBoiS]

 

[DaaaaB's]

You mean this one, where an SUV rammed into the cart from behind??

1 dead, 8 injured in golf cart crash on Collier Boulevard

Florida Highway Patrol (FHP) is investigating a fatal crash involving a golf cart in Collier County.

www.fox4now.com

Imagine if the SUV plowed into a tricycle, you'd be hollering about that darn third wheel for weeks.

Just for the record, I'm laughing at you not with you. Like you do realize that accident doesn't happen if a bunch of drunk aren't driving in a slow moving vehicle on a highway in the dark, right?

 

[WarriorofTime]

Who gets blized and hops on a bicycle? Lol. Your balance is terrible when you're wasted. Physically exerting yourself, steering straight and staying up right, all seems like very unfun things to do very intoxicated.

I think you guys confuse people that bike to a bar for a beer or two with people that are way too drunk drive or ride a bike.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Just for the record, I'm laughing at you not with you. Like you do realize that accident doesn't happen if a bunch of drunk aren't driving in a slow moving vehicle on a highway in the dark, right?

For the record, also laughing at you.

First of all, literally zero indication in the article alcohol was involved.

Second, you can operate any of thousands of things in a way that makes you more susceptible to danger, from household appliances to children’s toys. That doesn’t make it an agent of danger lol. Are you going to start posting about razor scooters and blenders too? In this case, the most dangerous vehicle on the road certainly wasnt the golf cart, I’d venture to say it was the two ton SUV doing the damage.