Andersen decision looming for Leafs

[Bomber0104]

not the first time. But 4 years in letting in goals like that in game 7. Absolutely. I gave Freddie a pass in the first 3 years.

then the fourth. Against korpisalo. And looking like a beer leaguer in net in year 5 sealed the deal.

Freddie let in some goals, and the Leafs scored zero themselves.

Again I ask, how do you expect to win a playoff hockey game by scoring zero goals?

Are you aware that this is impossible to do?

 

[deprw]

I repeat:


None of what you wrote has anything to do with my post and you're just recycling the same old lazy, debunked talking points, which are getting even worse now that Freddie is back to putting up elite numbers with Carolina.

Price in that kind of situation shut the door, gave team boost of confidence and it ran it with it. Same went with Korpisalo and Rask. Did Freddy had any game seven shutouts?

Freddy had bad habit to let in first shot of the game, which isn't good trait and it is something that affects teams play.

 

[Legion34]

Freddie let in some goals, and the Leafs scored zero themselves.

Again I ask, how do you expect to win a playoff hockey game by scoring zero goals?

Are you aware that this is impossible to do?

ummmm except this isn’t true?

Freddie has not played 4 series where they were shut out in elimination games. He played 1.

They had a lead in the 3rd period of game 7 against Boston. Fred let in what? 7?

 

[Bomber0104]

Price in that kind of situation shut the door, gave team boost of confidence and it ran it with it. Same went with Korpisalo and Rask. Did Freddy had any game seven shutouts?

The offence scored zero goals in the game 7 against Columbus.

That has nothing to do with Andersen.

Freddy had bad habit to let in first shot of the game, which isn't good trait and it is something that affects teams play.

For a mentally weak team, it sure can be.

 

[hotpaws]

not the first time. But 4 years in letting in goals like that in game 7. Absolutely. I gave Freddie a pass in the first 3 years.

then the fourth. Against korpisalo. And looking like a beer leaguer in net in year 5 sealed the deal.

the bad angle goal he let in with 10 mins left in the 3rd made it 2 - 0 , had we lost only 1 - 0 would that have made you feel that much better?

 

[Legion34]

the bad angle goal he let in with 10 mins left in the 3rd made it 2 - 0 , had we lost only 1 - 0 would that have made you feel that much better ?

The first one was a floater from the blue line as well.

i never had a problem with Andersen. He was a great regular season goalie for 3 years. He was out played 4 straight times by 4 different goalies in playoffs.

he let in terrible goals in every elimination game in 4 straight years. He was one of the worst goalies in the last year and was not even hutch level. It makes sense to move on at this point for both

Facts are facts.

 

[AvroArrow]

Watch this from 4:37 the 2 goals scored there were f***ing horrible. If we had average goaltending we win this, also Gards was complete f***ing garbage.



Game 7 2019, watch from about 2:30, another absolutely brutal goal in yet again a game 7 in the playoffs.




Watch at 3:10, absolutely brutal goal to give up in yet again a playoff elimination game. Yes the offence didn't score, that's still not an excuse for allowing a weak ass goal like that in the last game of a playoff series. Freddy was consistently a top 3 worst player for our team every playoff.

Mainboards are trash as usual, look for any excuse to shit on the Leafs. They were relentless with Kessel, the second he was traded "omg Toronto is so stupid, traded a PPG winger who went on to win 2 cups and robbed for a Conn Smythe" while we had Kessel "haha one dimensional garbage, doesn't back check"

Now it's Freddy/Hyman. When we had Hyman "haha over rated grinder, leafs fans think he's good leeching points off 34/16" Now he's gone to Edmonton "LOL leafs are so stupid, he has 6 goals in 6 games ! didn't want to pay him !"

I'm genuinely happy for Freddy and the success he's having, he's a very likeable guy, but people are acting like he was great for us when in reality he was our worst player not named Gardiner/Barrie in his last 3 playoff series here. He was brutal in the post-season and was a major reason why we lost the two game 7s and game 5 vs CBJ.

 

[theTTC]

Freddie let in some goals, and the Leafs scored zero themselves.

Again I ask, how do you expect to win a playoff hockey game by scoring zero goals?

Are you aware that this is impossible to do?

Freddie is now showing what he is capable of with a functional team in front of him. And please, keep engaging with these guys. The cognitive dissonance - seeing Freddie's true excellence while trying to hold the belief he is crap - will make their heads explode.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Andersen's off to a great start. Good for him.

Based on his play with us the last couple of years, I don't regret letting him walk though.

Campbell has been excellent.

 

[hotpaws]

The first one was a floater from the blue line as well.

i never had a problem with Andersen. He was a great regular season goalie for 3 years. He was out played 4 straight times by 4 different goalies in playoffs.

he let in terrible goals in every elimination game in 4 straight years. He was one of the worst goalies in the last year and was not even hutch level. It makes sense to move on at this point for both

Facts are facts.

he was screened by 2 players on the first goal

as you have been told repeatedly , we didn't score a f***ing goal and when don't score a f***ing goal you can't win

and then we shit the bed for 3 straight close out games last year against the Habs but i guess that's all on Campbell as well ? it's sad you don't see a trend here and instead just blaming the goalie

 

[Legion34]

he was screened by 2 players on the first goal

as you have been told repeatedly , we didn't score a f***ing goal and when don't score a f***ing goal you can't win

and then we shit the bed for straight close out games last year against the Habs but i guess that's all on Campbell as well ? it's sad you don't see a trend here and instead just blame the goalie

but they did….. Freddie Andersen had a multiple goal lead in Boston with 20 min left. Focusing on one game against the least offensively gifted team in the league. Over a 4 year sample where he got beat by 4 separate goalies as the HIGHLIGHT of his playoff career is ridiculous and sad.

That was the best 5 game stretch of his last 2 years in Toronto and he still screwed it up.
He was borderline unplayable for the last 2 seasons.

it’s just facts. Because lou traded for him doesn’t mean it isn’t true. He had to go at this point for both sides. Hope he does well.

also hope that the “fans” who are marvelling over his 6 game start were twice as impressed as campbells 11 game NHL record.

but dubas traded for him so I’m sure that’s not gonna happen

 

[deprw]

The offence scored zero goals in the game 7 against Columbus.

That has nothing to do with Andersen.

For a mentally weak team, it sure can be.

Yeah, against Columbus he was here longer, those kind of goals make teams mentally weak, because you can't trust your goalie which affects your play. You don't play like you should, when you have to over defend.

 

[Bomber0104]

Yeah, against Columbus he was here longer, those kind of goals make teams mentally weak, because you can't trust your goalie which affects your play. You don't play like you should, when you have to over defend.

Successful playoff teams don't get deflated by goals against.

Mentally weak teams do and they don't have success in the playoffs.

Sorry but I don't make excuses or have any respect for players that quit on the team, regardless of pretty much anything that happens on the ice.

If what you're saying is true, then the Leafs have bigger problems than just who's playing in net for them.

 

[hotpaws]

Yeah, against Columbus he was here longer, those kind of goals make teams mentally weak, because you can't trust your goalie which affects your play. You don't play like you should, when you have to over defend.

so if Campbell's muffins in 3 straight close out games caused us to be mentally weak and play poorly why are so many fans dumping on Mitch for his playoff performance ?

 

[egd27]

Freddie Andersen had a multiple goal lead in Boston with 20 min left.

When did he have a multiple goal lead with 20 mins left?

 

[Morbo]

imagine making excuses for Fred at this point.

the Leafs were 7th in GA last season, appears some folks in this thread didn't know that

 

[Legion34]

Successful playoff teams don't get deflated by goals against.

Mentally weak teams do and they don't have success in the playoffs.

Sorry but I don't make excuses or have any respect for players that quit on the team, regardless of pretty much anything that happens on the ice.

If what you're saying is true, then the Leafs have bigger problems than just who's playing in net for them.

??? There can be more than one problem on a team?????

we absolutely may have bigger problems. None of that has anything to do with Freddie being outplayed by 4 separate goalies and allowing back breaking goals and playing horrifically for the last 2 years.

except the role that Knowijg you have the second best goalie in every series has on team confidence.

whatever role that plays. It’s not an excuse for no goals in Columbus.

no goals in Columbus is no excuse for being the second best goalie in 4 straight seasons and being below replacement for 2 straight seasons.

See. When you don’t have an agenda. The world is easy

 

[Legion34]

When did he have a multiple goal lead with 20 mins left?

We were up multiple times in Boston. Leading going into thr 3rd and he let in 6 goals.

we may have not had it right in the third.

Freddie gave up so many goals it was hard to keep track of the gaps

 

[justashadowof]

Campbell is just as bad or maybe even worse.

Very weak example as Matthews deflected that shot.

 

[egd27]

We were up multiple times in Boston. Leading going into thr 3rd and he let in 6 goals.

we may have not had it right in the third.

Freddie gave up so many goals it was hard to keep track of the gaps

Assuming you mean Game 7 2018.

Boston led 3-2 after 1
Toronto led 4-3 after 2

Andersen let in 3 in the 3rd . A screen from the point......DeBrusk with a weak one......Pasta all alone in the slot.
Marchand into the EN

He never allowed 6 in the 3rd

 

[Aashir]

Lol imagine arguing over a goalie who isn’t even here anymore

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I don’t really look at the main board. I deal with enough stupid people on a daily basis

I'll try not to contribute to that

 

[Twine Tickler]

I am happy for Freddy. He was a great goalie for us for 3.5/5 years. He gave us stability in the cage for the first time in over a decade, and for that I will be forever grateful for.

It was very clear that the 2 parties needed to separate at the end of last season. Freddy needed a change of scenery. I am not shocked 1 bit that he is having success early on. He can be an elite goaltender in my honest opinion. I also remain confident that he would not have been that in TOR.

Like Hyman in EDM, I wish nothing but the best for Freddy.

 

[IPS]

imagine making excuses for Fred at this point.

the Leafs were 7th in GA last season, appears some folks in this thread didn't know that

I mean he got crucified HARD last year. Naturally there's gonna be a little 'I told you so'.

 

[deprw]

Successful playoff teams don't get deflated by goals against.

Mentally weak teams do and they don't have success in the playoffs.

Sorry but I don't make excuses or have any respect for players that quit on the team, regardless of pretty much anything that happens on the ice.

If what you're saying is true, then the Leafs have bigger problems than just who's playing in net for them.

Succesful team consist also their goaltender and if he lets in softies regularly it affects everyone. Everyone who has played any teamsport knows that, if you don't trust your goalie you are screwed. Price bailed Habs defense many times during our series and they could concentrate on defending.