Post-Game Talk: And that should be the end of the Leafs core

[OptimusReim]

I would like an explanation from the analytics crowd and Dubas supporters,

I imagine "sample size", but can they come forward ?

 

[yubbers]

if lou was still running things, you'd guys would have a cup by now.

say what you want about him being old, and old school; he knows how to properly run an NHL team, and get the most out of its talent.

plenty of teams in the league have highly skilled core players, but there is a very limited number teams that have a skilled front office to complete the whole thing.

dubas has been in over his head since day one. I'm not saying this trying to be a troll, I'm talking as a fan of hockey. It's obvious he doesn't know what he's doing, and should have never been given the keys to run this team

Imagine sitting on a board and explaining to shareholders why you fired your proven CFO and CEO to roll the dice on some kid that invented a new way to build a company. LOL. It's total madness.

 

[A1LeafNation]

This team deserves JFJ as GM and Mike Babcock as their coach.

 

[Gabriel426]

I think it went to shit the moment our young players decided to put the team hostage and demanded every dollar out of them. We've lost all our depth as a result, starting from Brown, Kapanen and finally Hymen.

It's all business and I get it but their decision will come at the price of this fanbase turning on them because of the bitterness. That's just how it works if you don't back those demands up with success. It's still early this year but I just don't see how this team is improved. It's not and they're not good enough to win. This team just doesn't have IT.

All Hyman, Brown, Kadri and Kap could still be on the team if the 10mil plus boys take 6 mil less collectively plus the money for Ritchie and Kerfoot.

 

[rdogg]

All you can do is laugh at this team.

What a sad sack of shit this organization is

I feel blessed that I've only caught bits and pieces of each game. Wasting any of my time watching this team just seems like a bad investment at this point.

 

[Mr Papagoergyo]

As a team you would think they would want to change the naritive?

 

[Menzinger]

Lou started that too with trading for Boyle and Turtleneck in back to back year.
Hainsey was good bc the D needed help but Marleau seemed to be a rush decision but st the time, we thought he would be trading JVR away to get assets.

The team stopped focusing on futures the moment they drafted Matthews. That's when ufas stopped being traded and picks started going for vets.

 

[CaptainCrunch17]

And what would you do with that cap space?

Look to acquire a 1st string goaltender, extend Rielly and go from there.

 

[Havoc]

if lou was still running things, you'd guys would have a cup by now.

say what you want about him being old, and old school; he knows how to properly run an NHL team, and get the most out of its talent.

plenty of teams in the league have highly skilled core players, but there is a very limited number teams that have a skilled front office to complete the whole thing.

dubas has been in over his head since day one. I'm not saying this trying to be a troll, I'm talking as a fan of hockey. It's obvious he doesn't know what he's doing, and should have never been given the keys to run this team

We'd have Chara on second pairing and Nylander traded to the Avs for two 2nds if Lou stayed. No thanks. Who else you have to recommend?

 

[HellasLEAF]

Yikes

 

[Chief Berube]

The hockey goods are gift wrapping Eichel for Dubas. It's a miracle Eichel hasn't been traded yet. Marner needs a change too.

Eichel is a type A. He and Matthews are buddies but also compete fiercely against each other. That's the atmosphere we need on the team.

I think that’s a good trade but I’d do JT for him tbh. Marner has so much in him and our wing depth is trash. I know the blame is on Marner right now but I really think Marner will figure this out.

 

[yubbers]

This team deserves JFJ as GM and Mike Babcock as their coach.

Damn franchise point records. LOL

 

[fahad203]

I feel blessed that I've only caught bits and pieces of each game. Wasting any of my time watching this team just seems like a bad investment at this point.

It's like a bollywood movie. It's so bad it's good

I wanted to see how much they can embarrass themselves

 

[Rogue Leader]

Okay just boycott games until this clown is out.

This is just a disgrace. At this point of I am management I would ban him from public speaking. Trade him, please!

 

[CaptainCrunch17]

I would like an explanation from the analytics crowd and Dubas supporters,

I imagine "sample size", but can they come forward ?

They will also do comparisons with Stanley Cup championship teams bad starts as well.

 

[Michoulicious]

It

It’s a satchel lol

An European carry-all.

 

[Gabriel426]

The team stopped focusing on futures the moment they drafted Matthews. That's when ufas stopped being traded and picks started going for vets.

I think at TDL for AM’s first year. Just by not trading away expiring UFAs should be good enough to send message to guys about having faith in them. No need to trade for Boyle even though I liked the trade.
The following summer should be decision time on JVR, Leo and Bozak.
Should have at least traded one of them away for picks if not two, esp since Kap was ready and AJ and Leivo were close. On top of that, Lou went and signed Marleau. Should have traded away Bozak and JVR, move Marner to play with AM and Hyman, have Willie be the C with Marleau and Kap. Then let Leo-Kadri-Brown be the shut down line. The 4th line is AJ-Goat-Leivo.

 

[PromisedLand]

I would like an explanation from the analytics crowd and Dubas supporters,

I imagine "sample size", but can they come forward ?

The expected wins/60 game is still strong thats all that matters.. The "real" wins don't count

 

[Nineteen67]

Let’s Go Kyle

 

[All Mod Cons]

if lou was still running things, you'd guys would have a cup by now.

say what you want about him being old, and old school; he knows how to properly run an NHL team, and get the most out of its talent.

plenty of teams in the league have highly skilled core players, but there is a very limited number teams that have a skilled front office to complete the whole thing.

dubas has been in over his head since day one. I'm not saying this trying to be a troll, I'm talking as a fan of hockey. It's obvious he doesn't know what he's doing, and should have never been given the keys to run this team

Honestly man, a large portion of the fanbase knows this.

 

[Gabriel426]

I would like an explanation from the analytics crowd and Dubas supporters,

I imagine "sample size", but can they come forward ?

The advanced stats tonight is
Amalio in the lineup 2-1
Not in the lineup 0-2-1
I think there is something we need to look into.

 

[CaptainCrunch17]

I think that’s a good trade but I’d do JT for him tbh. Marner has so much in him and our wing depth is trash. I know the blame is on Marner right now but I really think Marner will figure this out.

Marner really needs to play center given his salary and his pass first mentality.

 

[LilySmoov]

I would like an explanation from the analytics crowd and Dubas supporters,

I imagine "sample size", but can they come forward ?

Yeah, "sample size" sounds about right. It's been 6 games, we were good in our first 4, got goalie'd twice, were mediocre last night while being backstopped by our 3rd stringer, and embarrassed ourselves tonight. Depth forwards have been doing their job, while 3 of our 4 best players have been non-factors - a trend only a moron would expect to continue.

My apathy towards this core (honestly mainly towards Mitch) is increasing daily, but that shouldn't preclude my ability to be objective.

 

[Azail]

Honestly man, a large portion of the fanbase knows this.

Really? I just don't think our core players are that good.

 

[613Leafer]

The unrealized potential since the 2016/2017 season. Makes me sad.

Despite liking Dubas in certain respects, it's hard to think of a GM who has done so little with so much in terms of actual results, especially when you factor in the financial advantages this team has.