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I trust them enough to not pick silayevCould be true, but I trust Ducks scouts, especially when it comes to d-men. If they draft him, I'm confident he'll at least be a top 3 D.
I trust them enough to not pick silayevCould be true, but I trust Ducks scouts, especially when it comes to d-men. If they draft him, I'm confident he'll at least be a top 3 D.
I cant see Hughes passing on that skill for Lindstrom or Iginla.
Hughes passing on Michkov, he flat out said it was because of "team culture" reasons. I havent heard that issue concerning Demidov, personally.
I trust them enough to not pick silayev
Yes agree this year is too hard to predict after Celebrini i know as a Habs fan we need Demidov badly im hoping CHI and you guys go def and Columbus LindstromTough to say, my mind says dmen for Chicago and Anaheim…. But Demidov is 2nd best talent in draft…. And a guy like lindstrom should be appealing to Chicago to go bedard- lindstrom down the middle.
Lindstrom is kinda made for Anaheim forward group, and maybe zegras is moved for help on back end if we go Demidov/lindstrom
The farther we from the top 10, the less faith I have in the forwards they draft. Ducks seem to hit a lot more on D with late 1st and later picks
True, but a lot of other teams seem to do better with late first or later picks with forwards. Ducks have had some hits, but they tend to get goalies and D a lot more. Lot of other teams are more balanced or lean more toward forwards. It's not just scoring talent, it's overall forward talent compared to D. Highest core D drafted out of the current youth with Drysdale gone is #10, Terry is the only young core forward drafted in double digits. But we'll see how some of the other forwards develop, hoping for one or two more hits out of the current group.To be fair, that's true of most teams. Most of the best scoring talent is drafted early. If it were easy to find high end scorers later, everyone would have stacked lineups.
True, but a lot of other teams seem to do better with late first or later picks with forwards. Ducks have had some hits, but they tend to get goalies and D a lot more. Lot of other teams are more balanced or lean more toward forwards. It's not just scoring talent, it's overall forward talent compared to D. Highest core D drafted out of the current youth with Drysdale gone is #10, Terry is the only young core forward drafted in double digits. But we'll see how some of the other forwards develop, hoping for one or two more hits out of the current group.
I'm not saying they're bad at drafting forwards, but I'm recent memory, since Getzlaf and Perry in a loaded draft, they've had Karlsson, Rakell, Terry, Kase (if not for concussions), Palmieri as late 1st or later picks that were top 6 forwards (I'm probably missing some), and none I'm confident in currently in the system. Compare that to Montour, Manson, Theodore, Vatanen, LaCombe, Thrun(?), Marcus Pettersson(?), Schultz (?) and Zellweger and Luneau trending that way as top 4 guys. Ducks are probably average or slightly below at drafting forwards, they are probably one of the best at defense and very good at goalie.It's not like they haven't found anyone beyond Terry, and you still have to count guys who are contributing elsewhere as part of their scouting success. William Karlsson, Sam Steel, those were good picks. And I suspect Kase would have made the list of good picks if not for the concussions. That makes 4 really good forwards ... That's not a terrible hit rate for non-1st rounders at forward if you were to compare league wide. I suspect they'd look pretty middling overall in that department.
OTOH I get that the Ducks drafting D well has been going on for like 15 years now and is much better than at forward. There's definitely something to it when you do it for that long, and the number of good picks is beyond what you can expect from luck.
And it's notable that so many of their former drafted guys keep ending up in the Finals in significant roles. Montour, Manson, Theodore ... I mean, these aren't just 3rd pairing scrubs they're finding.
Me too.i would do it to secure Demidov if Chicago takes Levshunov
For the record, Steel was a first round pick. Regardless, I wouldn’t call him a “really good forward”. He was a big disappointment in Anaheim, for sure.It's not like they haven't found anyone beyond Terry, and you still have to count guys who are contributing elsewhere as part of their scouting success. William Karlsson, Sam Steel, those were good picks. And I suspect Kase would have made the list of good picks if not for the concussions. That makes 4 really good forwards ... That's not a terrible hit rate for non-1st rounders at forward if you were to compare league wide. I suspect they'd look pretty middling overall in that department.
OTOH I get that the Ducks drafting D well has been going on for like 15 years now and is much better than at forward. There's definitely something to it when you do it for that long, and the number of good picks is beyond what you can expect from luck.
And it's notable that so many of their former drafted guys keep ending up in the Finals in significant roles. Montour, Manson, Theodore ... I mean, these aren't just 3rd pairing scrubs they're finding.
For the record, Steel was a first round pick.
Regardless, I wouldn’t call him a “really good forward”. He was a big disappointment in Anaheim, for sure.
Nothing wrong with your value but I don't think 2 spots costs that muchwho says no?
I guess for me, he just didn’t turn out anywhere near what many of us had hoped for. (After his monster year he had outside the NHL). But yeah, as a very late first rounder, it’s a success to be in the league that long. I just wouldn’t call him a really good player but we may have different ideas on who we consider really good.Yeah I kind of forgot, although he still is an example of a forward not picked near the very top of the draft. At that point in the draft, you're just a couple spots from an early 2nd. You get a guy who's still in the league 8 years later you've done alright.
But he ultimately has turned into a legit NHLer. That it wasn't for his original team does not invalidate the pick from a scouting perspective. Perhaps from a player development/coaching/asset management angle, but that's not a reflection of the scouting dept.
This board is nuts. People can never agree on anything, now that value is there fans complains about a late first being too much this year and wanting instead a second. Feels like arguing for arguing at this point lmao.Nothing wrong with your value but I don't think 2 spots costs that much
As a ducks fan I wouldn't want another late first in this draft, I would be more interested in say a 2nd next season and spread the picks out
That is kinda a weird take, I assume our team would def want the late 1st…. Even if it’s just a trade asset to move up this year, or get a top 6 forwardThis board is nuts. People can never agree on anything, now that value is there fans complains about a late first being too much this year and wanting instead a second. Feels like arguing for arguing at this point lmao.
I said the value is good and probably an overpay, but Anaheim already has alot of picks in this draft including another late 1st I don't think adding another one is all that interestingThis board is nuts. People can never agree on anything, now that value is there fans complains about a late first being too much this year and wanting instead a second. Feels like arguing for arguing at this point lmao.
And what logic made you come up with the conclusion that the prospect you would draft in the second round in 2025 would help the rebuild of the Anaheim Ducks more than the one you would draft in the late first round of 2024?I said the value is good and probably an overpay, but Anaheim already has alot of picks in this draft including another late 1st I don't think adding another one is all that interesting
Most of those picks are in the 30% or less chance of becoming an NHL player, however.I said the value is good and probably an overpay, but Anaheim already has alot of picks in this draft including another late 1st I don't think adding another one is all that interesting
This deal only POSSIBLY happens if Levshunov is taken at 2. If Demidov is selected, Montreal doesn't make the offer and instead take what's left from Lidstrom/Iginla/Sennecke. I don't think they feel there is enough of a seperation from these 3 to warrant a 1st rounder. (Though recently Lidstrom has been sliding down a few boards)who says no?