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Well, considering that it was he who insisted on signing Skinner to this contract...
lol. I was going to say that for “worst decision by owner,” but opted for “buying the team in the first place.”
 
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Well, considering that it was he who insisted on signing Skinner to this contract...

No joke. How did he arrive at a contract where he competed against himself? $72 M over 8 years. no team could go more than seven, and he wanted to stay in Buffalo. I'm supposed to believe there was another team willing to go $10 M x 7 years. LOL. That contract should have been $7.5 M x 8 or $60 million. Yes, it was a crazy deal and implied some team would go $8.5 M x seven for Skinner.

This contract (followed by demanding O'Reilly be traded one day before the bonus was due) is a key exhibit of incompetence Pegula. How they got to $72 M over eight will always be a mystery.

We were going to stuck with a bad contract but amazing how they got played.

Strong contender.

Paying him $10.5 million was hilarious. An unemployed soccer president duped Pegula into a crazy dollar figure. Mindless. How many coaching offers could he have had to leverage the contract? No one was making him a GM. Maybe, a senior admin person but not for that salary, My Gawd if Pegula an idiot.
 

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No joke. How did he arrive at a contract where he competed against himself? $72 M over 8 years. no team could go more than seven, and he wanted to stay in Buffalo. I'm supposed to believe there was another team willing to go $10 M x 7 years. LOL. That contract should have been $7.5 M x 8 or $60 million. Yes, it was a crazy deal and implied some team would go $8.5 M x seven for Skinner.

This contract (followed by demanding O'Reilly be traded one day before the bonus was due) is a key exhibit of incompetence Pegula. How they got to $72 M over eight will always be a mystery.

We were going to stuck with a bad contract but amazing how they got played.
I think Jeff's agent did a good job. He knew Buffalo had a pretty weak roster and they wouldn't want to lose a guy who scored 40 goals. I doubt anyone was willing to pay him 10 million a year, but who knows.
 

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I think Jeff's agent did a good job. He knew Buffalo had a pretty weak roster and they wouldn't want to lose a guy who scored 40 goals. I doubt anyone was willing to pay him 10 million a year, but who knows.

Not to re-litigate here, but It was pretty clear that Jeff wanted to go to Market and the contract he got was the 'make me stay' price. It was a dumb decision to pay it. I think (hope) that they've learned their lesson about essentially paying hostage negotiation prices.
 

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Not to re-litigate here, but It was pretty clear that Jeff wanted to go to Market and the contract he got was the 'make me stay' price. It was a dumb decision to pay it. I think (hope) that they've learned their lesson about essentially paying hostage negotiation prices.
Wasn't there that "play close to home" motivation? Or was it a good smokescreen from Jeff.
 

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I think Jeff's agent did a good job. He knew Buffalo had a pretty weak roster and they wouldn't want to lose a guy who scored 40 goals. I doubt anyone was willing to pay him 10 million a year, but who knows.

That's like saying the guy doing the three-card monty did a good job faking out the rubes.
 

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That's like saying the guy doing the three-card monty did a good job faking out the rubes.
Well, how else can I say it, it was a bad contract, but they got themselves into a situation where the team only had Eichel and Reinhart and nothing else. They screwed up.
 

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Well, how else can I say it, it was a bad contract, but they got themselves into a situation where the team only had Eichel and Reinhart and nothing else. They screwed up.

It's just another mistake of many. It was going to be a bad contract down the line but should have been $7.5 M x 8 years. They got played. He wanted to be close to Toronto and said it multiple times. His parents could come down to games.
 
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I’m full blow the organization up.

Hire Ruff as President
Quenneville as Head Coach
Experienced winning GM

Eh but I’m not sell the team yet. Pegula just needs to take what’s he’s learned from the Bills. He struck gold. He needs same leadership structure and style. I’m afraid if he sells we lose the team in Buffalo.
 
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Eh but I’m not sell the team yet. Pegula just needs to take what’s he’s learned from the Bills. He struck gold. He needs same leadership structure and style. I’m afraid if he sells we lose the team in Buffalo.

He doesn't have to sell but he absolutely has to stop being involved in any on ice team decisions. You can't have an amature owner being part of all the personnel and coaching decisions and have a functional team. It starts and ends with that fact.
 

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I’m full blow the organization up.

Hire Ruff as President
Quenneville as Head Coach
Experienced winning GM

Eh but I’m not sell the team yet. Pegula just needs to take what’s he’s learned from the Bills. He struck gold. He needs same leadership structure and style. I’m afraid if he sells we lose the team in Buffalo.
I do NOT want Quenneville within 100 miles of 1 Knox Plaza. The Chicago Blackhawks matter is the reason why.

He doesn't have to sell but he absolutely has to stop being involved in any on ice team decisions. You can't have an amature owner being part of all the personnel and coaching decisions and have a functional team. It starts and ends with that fact.
EXACTLY. He's become the NHL's answer to Jerry Jones. Tell me how well the Dallas Cowboys have done with him being...well, Mr. Everything.
 

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He doesn't have to sell but he absolutely has to stop being involved in any on ice team decisions. You can't have an amature owner being part of all the personnel and coaching decisions and have a functional team. It starts and ends with that fact.
I just don’t think he is. He isn’t even in Buffalo most of the time so how is he being a part of all personnel and coaching decisions?

He hired the front office. And did a poor job of it.

My guess is he’s around the Bills much more because it’s so much more enjoyable and he’s built a solid organization.

I do NOT want Quenneville within 100 miles of 1 Knox Plaza. The Chicago Blackhawks matter is the reason why.


EXACTLY. He's become the NHL's answer to Jerry Jones. Tell me how well the Dallas Cowboys have done with him being...well, Mr. Everything.
Jerry won multiple super bowls. Just not recently.
 

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Thinking more about this, if he were to copy his Bills formula, Botterill would’ve been the closest thing to it. Botterill and Housley were deserving and highly regarded at the time. The NHL recommended them.

The only difference is they both had ties to Buffalo.

Does he finally realize Adams was an awful awful hire and bring in the a rising star in the GM world? Hire someone qualified and let them do their job. Don’t tell Botterill he needs to trade ROR or sign Skinner.

How are Marty Wilford and Seth Appert still here. Or Jerry Forton.
 

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Thinking more about this, if he were to copy his Bills formula, Botterill would’ve been the closest thing to it. Botterill and Housley were deserving and highly regarded at the time. The NHL recommended them.

The only difference is they both had ties to Buffalo.

Does he finally realize Adams was an awful awful hire and bring in the a rising star in the GM world? Hire someone qualified and let them do their job. Don’t tell Botterill he needs to trade ROR or sign Skinner.

How are Marty Wilford and Seth Appert still here. Or Jerry Forton.
If they hire a 4th straight rookie GM...

:banghead:
 

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