All Things Pegula 2

[MOGlLNY]

Adams has said publicly he talks to Pegula daily. Terry is "the CEO' of Sabres. He is ulimately in charge. If you think otherwise, it's on you. He owns the 14 years of garbage.

Idk why you’re replying to me, that’s exactly what I was saying lol

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

He should sell. He failed.

He didn’t fail at his main objective, which was to give himself an entertaining hobby. He’s succeeded splendidly in that, which is why nothing will change.

 

[HaNotsri]

If Terry meddles with the team, how come he isn't improving? At some point you must become close to average even if you lack talent.

 

[Jim Bob]

This is kind of how I look at the Sabres lately.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

If Terry meddles with the team, how come he isn't improving? At some point you must become close to average even if you lack talent.

Love the if

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Half of the posters here would become the coach to say nothing of GM if they bought the Sabres

 

[MarkusKetterer]

This is kind of how I look at the Sabres lately.

As a Guardians fan, at least I can take solace in the fact that they make the playoffs.

 

[Gabrielor]

Use the cap, Terry.

 

[Jim Bob]

Use the cap, Terry.

I wonder if any other GM wants to make a deal this early in the season. Especially one that is likely to help the Sabres.

It has been over two months since the last trade in the NHL:

And here are the trades we saw league-wide last year between Halloween and Valentine's Day:

 

[THUNDERBURST]

I wonder if any other GM wants to make a deal this early in the season. Especially one that is likely to help the Sabres.

It has been over two months since the last trade in the NHL:

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And here are the trades we saw league-wide last year between Halloween and Valentine's Day:

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Well, some Anaheim probably could, it's just hard to pull off a deal at the beginning of the season, most teams want to make the playoffs and are happy with their roster. Maybe we'll have to wait until teams play at least 20 games, and teams that look bad during those games, but still have plans to make the playoffs, maybe it will be possible to make some kind of deal with such a team.

 

[Ace]

The grittiest grifter in the history of grifts.

Poor Terry and his money losing

ought the team for 189 million. Nearly a billion dollar increase in value despite total failure. Still cutting costs and acting like this is a losing investment.

 

[MOGlLNY]

The idea that I’m still arguing with people who insist that Terry somehow saved the Sabres from moving is insanity. Sabres were never ever moving

 

[kirby11]

The grittiest grifter in the history of grifts.

Poor Terry and his money losing

ought the team for 189 million. Nearly a billion dollar increase in value despite total failure. Still cutting costs and acting like this is a losing investment.

Effective, efficient, economic.

The edict delivered from a ****ing super yacht.

 

[enthusiast]

The idea that I’m still arguing with people who insist that Terry somehow saved the Sabres from moving is insanity. Sabres were never ever moving

I wouldn’t say never, because I don’t think it would be fully off the table if someone from a new high-level market came knocking, but the Arizona mess should show it wouldn’t be a thief in the night type of affair

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

The idea that I’m still arguing with people who insist that Terry somehow saved the Sabres from moving is insanity. Sabres were never ever moving

I don't see how it's so obvious the team wouldn't move. They're worth 30/32, its not hard to see someone thinking they could make big bucks in say Houston.

Buffalo's not a big or rich market, and neither of those things are likely to change.

 

[oldgoalie]

...having to remind everyone constantly that this is a business for Pegula. He doesn't give a shit about the players or the organization's reputation. It's all about the bucks. The Sabres will never win a Cup with him as the owner.

 

[MOGlLNY]

I don't see how it's so obvious the team wouldn't move. They're worth 30/32, its not hard to see someone thinking they could make big bucks in say Houston.

Buffalo's not a big or rich market, and neither of those things are likely to change.

Because they make much more money through expansion than moving and the Sabres have an arena that could last for another 20 years without being touched.

If Pegula sank money into it, it could go a lot longer. The opinion is also when he bought the Sabres he stopped them from moving. Not currently (which also will not happen) but they are definitely closer to moving now than they were when he bought the team.

 

[1point21Gigawatts]

Because they make much more money through expansion than moving and the Sabres have an arena that could last for another 20 years without being touched.

If Pegula sank money into it, it could go a lot longer. The opinion is also when he bought the Sabres he stopped them from moving. Not currently (which also will not happen) but they are definitely closer to moving now than they were when he bought the team.

I thought Big Tom Golisano made sure that tPegs wouldn't move the team after the sale.

 

[Ehran]

As long as the Bills are winning the Sabres record & reputation doesn't mean diddly squat.

Sad, but true.

 

[Gras]

The grittiest grifter in the history of grifts.

Poor Terry and his money losing

ought the team for 189 million. Nearly a billion dollar increase in value despite total failure. Still cutting costs and acting like this is a losing investment.

How does he pay the bills with that billions dollars that hes made?

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

How does he pay the bills with that billions dollars that hes made?

A 186M S&P500 investment in 2011 is worth 1.023B today. He's ahead of that, but not by a ton.

 

[Gras]

A 186M S&P500 investment in 2011 is worth 1.023B today. He's ahead of that, but not by a ton.

And that would be liquid, unlike the value of the franchise.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

And that would be liquid, unlike the value of the franchise.

As well as diversified, although it wouldn't be a source of patronage, prestige, or political leverage.

 

[joshjull]

Use the cap, Terry.

I don’t think it’s him. I think Adams is the reason.

We spent money on the bottom 6, defense and goaltending. The only place we haven’t is the top 6.

We are in the unusual situation of having 3 ELCs in our top 6 which drives the payroll down. Obviously that’s where your bigger forward salaries are. But those are Adams guys, he drafted all 3 of the ELCs. (Peterka/Quinn/Benson). I mean the entire top 6 are essentially all Adams guys at this point. He either drafted them, committed to them with big extensions (Tage/Cozens) or traded for them (Tuch).

The last two offseasons Adams has shown an overconfidence in the roster or specific players when putting the roster together that caused problems. It’s still early, so maybe it corrects itself with Quinn/Benson getting on track. But so far a kid heavy 2nd line has been a mess.

But I don’t think Pegula had anything to do with this top 6 and by extension the overall payroll being where it is.

EDIT: and if Friedman’s reporting is true, Adams realizes his mistake as well and is trying to find a fix it. Better late than never I guess, not that I expect anything to happen.

 

[slip]

How does he pay the bills with that billions dollars that hes made?

I wish I could own a a business that loses money every year I own it but manages to quadruple in value.

Sports franchises are really the new Tulip mania bubble.