All Purpose Training Camp Thread.

[mikebel111*]

JVR injured, ah man,
I think this opens up a spot for kadri

edit: JVR will be fine, good thing, but nonis buy out lambo, so it opens a spot for kadri

 

[iArts]

I just realized that McClement is also a centre. Where does he fit?

 

[TootooTrain]

I just realized that McClement is also a centre. Where does he fit?

Centering one of the bottom 6 lines. Lots of time on the PK.

 

[Rob Brown]

I just realized that McClement is also a centre. Where does he fit?

3/4 slot, likely 4th.

 

[skating101]

JVR injured, ah man,
I think this opens up a spot for kadri

edit: JVR will be fine, good thing, but nonis buy out lambo, so it opens a spot for kadri

Early reports said van Riemsdyk suffered a bruised foot day to day

 

[mikebel111*]

Early reports said van Riemsdyk suffered a bruised foot day to day

hope he is okay
but if he is not
leafs will find some stupid, reason to not put kadri in top 6

 

[iArts]

Did anybody watch Kadri's interview from today? He looked kinda worried for some reason. Like something was off. Weird.

 

[mikebel111*]

Did anybody watch Kadri's interview from today? He looked kinda worried for some reason. Like something was off. Weird.

Can you plz explain? I have not watched at it, im at school

 

[iArts]

Can you plz explain? I have not watched at it, im at school

I might be imagining things that are not there, but I thought he looked kind of worried.
Also, they started an interview with a question "coach said you aren't Bobby Ryan. What do you think about that?". So maybe he just took it close to heart and it was because of that? I don't know.

He just didn't look as calm and confident as he did in his previous interviews.

 

[mikebel111*]

I might be imagining things that are not there, but I thought he looked kind of worried.
Also, they started an interview with a question "coach said you aren't Bobby Ryan. What do you think about that?". So maybe he just took it close to heart and it was because of that? I don't know.

He just didn't look as calm and confident as he did in his previous interviews.

nah, it's nothing, did he think he was bobby ryan before?
I think he is just a bit frustrated, that he might have to go to minors, cause you know he really wants it, if he has to go down, he will be back once dead weight is taken off, even though he has done well
Nothing to be worried about
plus I am sure randy and nonis will talk to him, that u will be back very soon, if he has to go down
eakins will also talk to him

 

[DirtyDangler 91]

From the lines Carlyle has been puttin together I wouldn't be too surprised to see a lineup like this

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
Riemsdyk - Grabo - Connolly
MacArthur - Kadri - Kulemin
Komarov - McClement - Brown
Steckel/Orr

Rotate in the bigger bodies as needed. If Kadri plays well try him between Kessel and Lupul. This gives Bozak the opportunity to excel in a 3rd line role.

 

[SteveV*]

Listening to Kadri interview today, very impressed with his newfound maturity. He's ready, in every sense now.

 

[hockeywiz542]

http://www.cp24.com/carlyle-says-he-is-focusing-on-team-not-goalies-1.1115730

The coach called the start of practice the worst of the three sessions to date, in terms of execution.

"And we told them that. That our expectations are we have to be better than that when we step out on the ice," said Carlyle. "There were a couple of drills that showed they were mentally tired."

The Toronto coach wasn't giving up much Tuesday, irked apparently that some local reporters had run too far with his earlier comments on Toronto forward Nazem Kadri, an analysis that had contained references to Anaheim's Bobby Ryan.

Carlyle was pleased at his team's work ethic.

"This team, in these three practices, has spent more time battling, and more time going into those tough areas and more time stopping in front of the net than I think they did the whole time I was here last year," said Carlyle, who took over from Ron Wilson with 18 games remaining last season.

 

[Bravid Nonahan]

I think Kadri's confidence will be crushed if he is sent down. I know he's a resilient kid but how much crap can someone take? If Lombardi makes the team over Nazem then it's an absolute travesty, no question about it. Heck, Kadri should make it over Frattin too. Kadri is just as versatile as Frattin, maybe more because Kadri can actually play on the PP, and he also brings physicality.

 

[araisarena]

I think Kadri will make the team this year. 18 forwards brought to camp, you'd think that Auccoin, Hamilton, Orr, Lombardi and Steckel are the odd men out so far. 13 forwards left so Kadri essentially has to beat out a Frattin, Connolly, Komarov to make sure he isn't an extra forward because they won't keep Kadri up in the press box.

 

[TootooTrain]

I think Kadri's confidence will be crushed if he is sent down. I know he's a resilient kid but how much crap can someone take? If Lombardi makes the team over Nazem then it's an absolute travesty, no question about it. Heck, Kadri should make it over Frattin too. Kadri is just as versatile as Frattin, maybe more because Kadri can actually play on the PP, and he also brings physicality.

Frattin brings both of those elements aswell. He's obviously physical. He played the point on UND's powerplay and did very well. Hasn't necessarily translated that pp ability to the NHL level but his shot is easily NHL calibre. Kadri is so creative out there though. So it all depends on what type of hole/role needs to be filled.

 

[Bravid Nonahan]

Frattin brings both of those elements aswell. He's obviously physical. He played the point on UND's powerplay and did very well. Hasn't necessarily translated that pp ability to the NHL level but his shot is easily NHL calibre. Kadri is so creative out there though. So it all depends on what type of hole/role needs to be filled.

No offense but I think Kadri's PP skills are VASTLY superior to Matt Frattin. Frattin can't distribute the puck nearly as well, he can't enter the zone nearly as well, and he doesn't handle the puck nearly as well.

 

[TootooTrain]

No offense but I think Kadri's PP skills are VASTLY superior to Matt Frattin. Frattin can't distribute the puck nearly as well, he can't enter the zone nearly as well, and he doesn't handle the puck nearly as well.

Oh none taken. I wasn't disputing Kadri's vastly superior creativity which is clear. I just felt the need to defend Frattin when you said Kadri "can actually play on the powerplay". Frattin will get all the chances in the world on that 2nd unit because of his wicked shot. Kadri will always be ahead of him when it comes to the powerplay depth chart.

 

[Bravid Nonahan]

It's frustrating to watch.


It's like Snider and Thames.

 

[crump]

Pulling for the kid. Just has to make it clear he is ready now. Without preseason games he has to show it at practice. I think Carlyle is fair but he will need to fit in to his 2nd scoring line. meaning Grabo would be the checking centre he is looking for because he would be the best at it besides McClement.

Lupul Bozak Kessel
Kulemin. Grabovski. JVR (2 way line)
MacArthur. Kadri. Frattin
Komarov. McClement Brown

Steckel, Connolly (extras)
Connolly, Lombardi need to be outplayed bt a kadri and Frattin.

(Although by the sounds of it, all lines will be expected to be 2 way lines.)

 

[TmlHockeyFan]

Did anybody watch Kadri's interview from today? He looked kinda worried for some reason. Like something was off. Weird.

Yeah he looked worried or nervous. It just might be that he's tired too.

 

[crump]

Kadri looked like a train hit him on the Ryan comment. Not really fair for a reporter to pull that junk on him. Trolling hard. People don't go up to Frattin and say your coach says your not Neal. Totally taken out of context.

 

[LeafsMonster]

Kadri looked like a train hit him on the Ryan comment. Not really fair for a reporter to pull that junk on him. Trolling hard. People don't go up to Frattin and say your coach says your not Neal. Totally taken out of context.

He handled it like a pro though. When I watched it i kinda felt as though he was trying to defemd himself, or reassuring himself that he still has a chance. I think he knew that he would probably be sent down again. Honestly gotta feel bad for him. He looked pretty enthusiastic when he talked before about being up with the leafs this season, now he's just saying how he Randy thinks he'll have a good future as an nhler. I really hope he still has his swag and cockiness. Really rooting for him to make the team out of camp.

 

[smitty10]

3/4 slot, likely 4th.

McClement left Colorado because he didn't want to play 4th line minutes. He'll be centering the third (shutdown) line that Carlyle likes to run and will be getting a ton of PK time. Steckel will center the 4th and will be used in similar situations to last year (before the broken knuckle).

Anyways, is it safe to say that Holzer will make the Leafs this year? How is Fraser looking?

 

[McMatthews]

jake gardiner - injury
nazem kadri - marlies
mike komisarek - healthy scratch
david steckel - health scratch
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lupul - bozak - kessel
van riemsdyk - grabovski - kulemin
macarthur - connolly - frattin
komarov - mcclement - brown
lombardi

gunnarsson - phaneuf
liles - franson
rielly - holzer
kostka

reimer
scrivens
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