All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XIII - the 23 deadline approaches

[Big Daddy Cane]

Frustrating to be the bridesmaid regularly for fans and probably management alike, but that’s how it goes sometimes.

Everything reported up to this moment points to the team being seriously in it. At least the bargain bin narrative has been debunked to an extent.

Doesn’t help for 22-23, but there will be other scorers that become available in the future.

 

[LakeLivin]

Frustrating to be the bridesmaid regularly for fans and probably management alike, but that’s how it goes sometimes.

Everything reported up to this moment points to the team being seriously in it. At least the bargain bin narrative has been debunked to an extent.

Doesn’t help for 22-23, but there will be other scorers that become available in the future.

Methinks you may underestimate the depths of the faith of the true believers (or would that be nonbelievers?).

 

[hblueridgegal]

Frustrating to be the bridesmaid regularly for fans and probably management alike, but that’s how it goes sometimes.

Everything reported up to this moment points to the team being seriously in it. At least the bargain bin narrative has been debunked to an extent.

Doesn’t help for 22-23, but there will be other scorers that become available in the future.

As you posted earlier, the media will be the worst, I suspect. Maybe it will serve as a little extra motivation behind the scenes as they yap away about NY/NJ/Boston.

 

[HydratedByStormBrew]

As you posted earlier, the media will be the worst, I suspect. Maybe it will serve as a little extra motivation behind the scenes as they yap away about NY/NJ/Boston.

I’m going to hold Dundon to his comments. He sent a clear message to fans that we would be aggressive. A move reminiscent to last years TDL move isn’t going to cut it. Pessimism is contagious.

 

[Chan790]

Frustrating to be the bridesmaid regularly for fans and probably management alike, but that’s how it goes sometimes.

Everything reported up to this moment points to the team being seriously in it. At least the bargain bin narrative has been debunked to an extent.

Doesn’t help for 22-23, but there will be other scorers that become available in the future.

It's more frustrating to obtain half-measures because that's what was available at the price they want to pay. You can't discount shop and exploit inefficiencies to a Cup. Sometimes you have to just win the bidding war, even if it costs you too much.

A little desperation and overspending every once in a while and a little less "wlog" would be nice. Maier is probably going to NJ...we had better have something bigger than Schmaltz and a 6D up our sleeve.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Even if we don’t go crazy here, im not worried. There will be young players likely available at the draft / at FA time.

 

[MinJaBen]

Even if we don’t go crazy here, im not worried. There will be young players likely available at the draft / at FA time.

Forty goal scorer young players?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Forty goal scorer young players?

Maybe

 

[MinJaBen]

Maybe

Then someone will outbid us.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Then someone will outbid us.

Maybe

 

[chaz4hockey]

Frustrating to be the bridesmaid regularly for fans and probably management alike, but that’s how it goes sometimes.

Everything reported up to this moment points to the team being seriously in it. At least the bargain bin narrative has been debunked to an extent.

Doesn’t help for 22-23, but there will be other scorers that become available in the future.

“other scorers that become available in the future”

Hard to envision right now who that would be available in the Meier mold. This seems to be a unicorn opportunity.

 

[User13452]

Well Friedman says looks less likely Carolina will get Meier…

 

[spockBokk]

Well Friedman says looks less likely Carolina will get Meier…

Was coming to post this:



Hello Nick Schmaltz or ???

 

[hblueridgegal]

Was coming to post this:



Hello Nick Schmaltz or ???

It kinda feels like when this happened on Succession.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

It doesn't help the doom and gloom when Gibson pulls a Saros on the team right before the Meier trade call. I can't wait to go to Canes Twitter tomorrow and see the whining and bitching

 

[Rad ChaLose]

Was coming to post this:



Hello Nick Schmaltz or ???

So I’ve had a few drinks..but Friedman is saying the teams (i.e. Canes) that wanted to do it without an extension are not as likely to trade for him as teams likely to do it…without an extension? That doesn’t seem to differentiate the two parties…am I not getting something here? unless he means the the team that wanted an extension originally (devils) now no longer require the extension?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I don’t think Gibson just goalied us. Outside of a couple of good saves, we were just lobbing stuff from the point and no one was getting a deflection on it.

 

[spockBokk]

So I’ve had a few drinks..but Friedman is saying the teams (i.e. Canes) that wanted to do it without an extension are not as likely to trade for him as teams likely to do it…without an extension? That doesn’t seem to differentiate the two parties…am I not getting something here? unless he means the the team that wanted an extension originally (devils) now no longer require the extension?

Here’s the clip:



Bascially, it’s unlikely teams that originally wanted an extension before trading for him will not get that. They’ll have to settle for acquiring him as is in terms of contract status. Teams are tired of waiting and pushing the Sharks for a decision.

He didn’t specifically say the Canes were out, but less and less likely they get Meier. Let’s hope Vegas gets him.

 

[Brock Anton]

It doesn't help the doom and gloom when Gibson pulls a Saros on the team right before the Meier trade call. I can't wait to go to Canes Twitter tomorrow and see the whining and bitching

The whining is going to be well earned. I’m tired of spinning every move/non-move we do as this 4D chess genius stuff.

Goal scoring has been the #1 problem for years and it’s incredibly frustrating to see a potential 40-goal scorer in his mid-20’s likely going to a division rival when we more than had the capability to pull it off.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

The whining is going to be well earned. I’m tired of spinning every move/non-move we do as this 4D chess genius stuff.

Goal scoring has been the #1 problem for years and it’s incredibly frustrating to see a potential 40-goal scorer in his mid-20’s likely going to a division rival when we more than had the capability to pull it off.

NJ easily can outbid us. our only shot was NJ backing out because no extension was allowed

 

[TheRising06]

So I’ve had a few drinks..but Friedman is saying the teams (i.e. Canes) that wanted to do it without an extension are not as likely to trade for him as teams likely to do it…without an extension? That doesn’t seem to differentiate the two parties…am I not getting something here? unless he means the the team that wanted an extension originally (devils) now no longer require the extension?

What I heard is team that were said to be not interested without an extension are now willing to pay up for him as a rental and work it out later. Hoping a huge overpay is coming if we're not the one.

 

[Wolfpuck]

The whining is going to be well earned. I’m tired of spinning every move/non-move we do as this 4D chess genius stuff.

Goal scoring has been the #1 problem for years and it’s incredibly frustrating to see a potential 40-goal scorer in his mid-20’s likely going to a division rival when we more than had the capability to pull it off.

I like most of what this management group has accomplished, but we always seem to outsmart ourselves into not having a chair when the music stops when big game hunting.

 

[Rad ChaLose]

Here’s the clip:



Bascially, it’s unlikely teams that originally wanted an extension before trading for him will not get that. They’ll have to settle for acquiring him as is in terms of contract status. Teams are tired of waiting and pushing the Sharks for a decision.

He didn’t specifically say the Canes were out, but less and less likely they get Meier. Let’s hope Vegas gets him.

thanks..it seems like Elliot’s statement of ”Canes are not as likely” isn’t necessarily correlated with the non-extension piece…just makes it seem like that makes NJ now has the upper-hand

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

“other scorers that become available in the future”

Hard to envision right now who that would be available in the Meier mold. This seems to be a unicorn opportunity.

Meier’s a great fit, but there have been better ones traded recently (Eichel, Tkachuk).

As an example of what could become available later, an even bigger unicorn, Pettersson, has an uncertain future in Vancouver.

If it comes out that they were just looking for a bargain and not serious, I’ll join the chorus. All signs point to them legitimately trying for the player. Sometimes other teams are just better positioned to make a trade.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Meier’s a great fit, but there have been better ones traded recently (Eichel, Tkachuk).

As an example of what could become available later, an even bigger unicorn, Pettersson, has an uncertain future in Vancouver.

If it comes out that they were just looking for a bargain and not serious, I’ll join the chorus. All signs point to them legitimately trying for the player. Sometimes other teams are just better positioned to make a trade.

I like most of what this management group has accomplished, but we always seem to outsmart ourselves into not having a chair when the music stops when big game hunting.

I don't think that's what it is, truly. I said earlier this year that New Jersey was the likeliest Meier destination, specifically for two reasons: 1. The Swiss connection, and 2. because they are the ones that have just exited the cycle of high first after high first for years and now have excess pieces to use on such a player. Both of these are powerful pull factors that are not in Carolina's control.