All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XIII - the 23 deadline approaches

[MinJaBen]

Well according to freidman they have an offer in for Meier but Greier is taking his time or seeing if jersey can beat it

I wonder if this “offer” we have in is the reason Jarvis got the news he did? If the Sharks accept the offer, he is then gone. Hope he isn’t in the offer without an extension in place.

 

[hblueridgegal]

I have done my dog diligence on Meier and he passes the test. Boeser, a known dog lover, would top the list but it appears he's headed home.

If Nino was still here, Meier would have a fellow Swiss outdoorsman to visit Hanging Rock and other outdoorsy spots with on days off.

 

[User13452]

I wonder if this “offer” we have in is the reason Jarvis got the news he did? If the Sharks accept the offer, he is then gone. Hope he isn’t in the offer without an extension in place.

I highly doubt Jarvis is in it or this should would be done already considering New Jersey is saying no to mercer

 

[Svechhammer]

The more they talk about how they're going to "load up" and "spend the money", the less confidence I have in them making moves that will actually help this team.

If we're making moves just because we have the space and Dundon wants to remain in the news, I'm a bit concerned.

There are few things I do hear about within the org, but one of them was that we do have an offer out there, just needing the other entity to agree to it. Could be a team or player, I don't know, but we are actively looking to improve right now.

 

[MinJaBen]

I highly doubt Jarvis is in it or this should would be done already considering New Jersey is saying no to mercer

Maybe that is why the rumor is out there that San Jose is asking for Mercer, to beat our offer. If they don’t, then he’s ours and Jarvis is going.

 

[Svechhammer]

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Well, needless to say, our expectations have suddenly turned much higher.

 

[MinJaBen]

Wow, that is an expensive payout to move him.

Well, needless to day, our expectations have suddenly turned much higher.

Yes, needless to day.


But if you wouldn’t mind saying, in regards to what?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Wow, that is an expensive payout to move him.


Yes, needless to day.


But if you wouldn’t mind saying, in regards to what?

I live day by day, so not going to say anything.

 

[spockBokk]

I can’t see where moving Jarvis for Meier makes sense, but who knows. You’d think Jarvis would be a no-go, just based on the fact they want to add scoring, not trade a younger scorer away + futures to acquire a more established scorer.

The whole point, to me, is use their stockpile of futures and unexpected cap space windfall to add to the current roster, not sacrifice an up and coming part of the roster for a what could be only 1.25yrs of Meier.

If Morrow + 1st + Drury/Suzuki/Blake/whatever doesn’t get it done, I hope they move on and don’t fixate.

 

[MadeUpName]

I feel some trade tinglies brewing

I can’t see where moving Jarvis for Meier makes sense, but who knows. You’d think Jarvis would be a no-go, just based on the fact they want to add scoring, not trade a younger scorer away + futures to acquire a more established scorer.

The whole point, to me, is use their stockpile of futures and unexpected cap space windfall to add to the current roster, not sacrifice an up and coming part of the roster for a what could be only 1.25yrs of Meier.

If Morrow + 1st + Drury/Suzuki/Blake/whatever doesn’t get it done, I hope they move on and don’t fixate.

Dundon's interview screamed "We aren't moving Jarvis". It is hard to pick up premium pieces. In Dundon's mind Carolina should never Draft in the top-15 again. Jarvis is a core piece of the team.

When talking about trades they both mentioned Carolina's stockpile of futures. That is what they will deal from. I believe Dundon's phrase was something like "if it doesn't hurt the team now we could use some of those assets to improve our chances"

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

As a follow up to the summarization of @User13452, here’s the link for the Friedman info.

~4:00



“… I’ve heard they’ve made a very good offer.”

 

[User13452]

Apparently Chicago has another deal coming down the pipe tonight involving a playoff team

 

[ndp]

I wonder if this “offer” we have in is the reason Jarvis got the news he did? If the Sharks accept the offer, he is then gone. Hope he isn’t in the offer without an extension in place.

I don’t see any way they move Jarvis for any player that isn’t an upgrade on what they project Jarvis to be with close to max term at a fair or better value.

 

[User13452]

There are few things I do hear about within the org, but one of them was that we do have an offer out there, just needing the other entity to agree to it. Could be a team or player, I don't know, but we are actively looking to improve right now.

Meier likely

 

[Borsig]

Moving Jarvis is a no I hope

 

[Svechhammer]

I can’t see where moving Jarvis for Meier makes sense, but who knows. You’d think Jarvis would be a no-go, just based on the fact they want to add scoring, not trade a younger scorer away + futures to acquire a more established scorer.

The whole point, to me, is use their stockpile of futures and unexpected cap space windfall to add to the current roster, not sacrifice an up and coming part of the roster for a what could be only 1.25yrs of Meier.

If Morrow + 1st + Drury/Suzuki/Blake/whatever doesn’t get it done, I hope they move on and don’t fixate.

I personally don't think we are, but just to play Devil's Advocate....

Meier is the kind of player we hope Jarvis could be. If we can get that player already in his prime and have him locked in long term (big if), then it's worth the move. It's not about moving away from Jarvis but about upgrading to what we ideally hope he will become, giving us the scoring punch right now that we hope Jarvis has in 2 or 3 years. Similar vibes to flipping Hanifin for Hamilton.

 

[User13452]

Moving Jarvis is a no I hope

I can’t see how this deal wouldn’t be done if Jarvis is in it. I bet it’s morrow drury a 1st

 

[spockBokk]

It also will be interesting to see if they have pivoted from the “Jarvis not available for Eichel” (who had 5 yrs of term) stance to offering him up for an older winger in Meier.

Granted, Eichel had some injury concerns, but he had much more of a pedigree than Meier and he was a bonafide 1C.

 

[User13452]

Apparently Chicago has another deal coming down the pipe tonight involving a playoff team

And no it’s not Kane

 

[Svechhammer]

Apparently TSN reported that as high as the ask from NJ is (Mercer), SJ is going to ask even more of a Western Conference team looking to get Meier.

If NJ balks at the ask, we have to be the odds on favorite to land him.

 

[MinJaBen]

And no it’s not Kane

Probably one of the defensemen.

 

[spockBokk]

I personally don't think we are, but just to play Devil's Advocate....

Meier is the kind of player we hope Jarvis could be. If we can get that player already in his prime and have him locked in long term (big if), then it's worth the move. It's not about moving away from Jarvis but about upgrading to what we ideally hope he will become, giving us the scoring punch right now that we hope Jarvis has in 2 or 3 years. Similar vibes to flipping Hanifin for Hamilton.

Lindholm and Hanifin wanted more money than Dundon wanted to pay. And that move was also made as a “culture shakeup”

The difference there was you knew you had Hamilton for at least 3 yrs at on a below market value contract. It also didn’t hurt that you added the rights of one of the best D prospects in hockey at the time.

With Meier, there’s no guarantees he’s even on your team next year. If he is, you are paying absolute top dollar for his services vs one more year of Jarvis on his ELC and 4 more years of team control.

 

[User13452]

Probably one of the defensemen.

I’d take Murphy or McCabe

 

[Borsig]

Yeah giving up Jarvis for meier doesn't make us that better in the long run. Adding him does.
I wouldn’t do it from a money point. I'd add but not give Jarvis