All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XII - The UFA frenzy aftermath

[Lempo]

I'll preface this with trade idea was fueled by alcohol.

Turbo, Drury, 1st + for Timo Meier

Patches - Aho - Meier

No.

SEASON	CLAUSE	CAP HIT	AAV	P. BONUSES	S. BONUSES	BASE SALARY	TOTAL SALARY	MINORS SAL
2019-20		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$3,300,000	$700,000	$4,000,000	$4,000,000
2020-21		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$3,300,000	$700,000	$4,000,000	$4,000,000
2021-22		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$2,000,000	$4,000,000	$6,000,000	$6,000,000
2022-23		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$0	$10,000,000	$10,000,000	$10,000,000
TOTAL		$24,000,000	$24,000,000

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

No.

SEASON	CLAUSE	CAP HIT	AAV	P. BONUSES	S. BONUSES	BASE SALARY	TOTAL SALARY	MINORS SAL
2019-20		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$3,300,000	$700,000	$4,000,000	$4,000,000
2020-21		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$3,300,000	$700,000	$4,000,000	$4,000,000
2021-22		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$2,000,000	$4,000,000	$6,000,000	$6,000,000
2022-23		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$0	$10,000,000	$10,000,000	$10,000,000
TOTAL		$24,000,000	$24,000,000

a trade and sign (stone style) would be required for any deal for Meier

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

No.

SEASON	CLAUSE	CAP HIT	AAV	P. BONUSES	S. BONUSES	BASE SALARY	TOTAL SALARY	MINORS SAL
2019-20		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$3,300,000	$700,000	$4,000,000	$4,000,000
2020-21		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$3,300,000	$700,000	$4,000,000	$4,000,000
2021-22		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$2,000,000	$4,000,000	$6,000,000	$6,000,000
2022-23		$6,000,000	$6,000,000	$0	$0	$10,000,000	$10,000,000	$10,000,000
TOTAL		$24,000,000	$24,000,000

The thing is, the future considerations we gave Vegas were really Timo Meier. So we have to acquire him first in order to be able to send him back to Vegas in the future. Nothing we can do about it but accept the large QO. Is what it is man

 

[chaz4hockey]

 

[Unsustainable]

Drury recalled tonight.


That’s good stuff you are drinking.

I only buy the good stuff

 

[Stickpucker]

Thinking about the last few off seasons:

*The front office has done a good job patching up goaltending in the short term 4 or 5 times now while we try to find someone in the system.
*The old vets/depth scoring signings have been pretty lackluster. TDA is the best one I can think of.
*notable flops (lets call them passengers): Dzingle, Stastny, Kase, Patches (counting guys who haven't produced YET!), Bear,
*okay signings (I guess?): Fast, CDH, Stepan
*These old guys do not look fast, big, or most importantly HUNGRY. We need young kids who want to fight tooth and nail for their shot in the NHL and who want to WIN. Not people who are looking to get carried to a cup.
*We have gotten a ton of darts in drafts the last few seasons and haven't used them in the roster or to upgrade the roster. I'm becoming of the mindset that we should try and get better at bringing some of the young guys on ELCs to the roster as we're a cap team now. They can at least add elements we don't have or continue to grow versus people who are stagnating and declining.
*Lets start developing some Roy, Geekie, Luostarinen, Forsling type guys that we've been casting off and fill out depth with young guys with upside.

The problem is most of the team doesn't look inspired or hungry. The guys who have been powering the team the last few seasons don't look like people who are engaged or bought in any more. I don't want to blame that on RBA or say they have tuned him out. If these guys keep this up long enough something will change and I'm not sure it will be for the better.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

With the Blues looking more and more like their season is circling the drain, I wonder if the Tarasenko rumors will start to pick up steam again?

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

With the Blues looking more and more like their season is circling the drain, I wonder if the Tarasenko rumors will start to pick up steam again?

Turbo for Tank straight up, may need a bit of retention at the deadline. I only do this though if we can re-sign Tank and he doesn't completely break the bank.

 

[bleedgreen]

Please no rentals as saviors.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Please no rentals as saviors.

Could be wrong, but I believe Tarasenko still has at least another year on his contract.

 

[Stickpucker]

A lot of UFA forwards for the Blues after this season: St. Louis Blues Salary Cap, Draft Picks, and Player Contracts - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Could be wrong, but I believe Tarasenko still has at least another year on his contract.

Currently in his final year.

 

[Unsustainable]

Tank please, and ROR

 

[cptjeff]

Currently in his final year.

If we could trade for an extended Tarasenko, I'd be quite happy.

 

[cptjeff]

Tank please, and ROR

Ooh, ROR could be a rental or an extension target. Yes please. That would shore up the 2C slot no question.

Also famous around these parts as one of the two guys most of us were expecting when we picked Paradis. Goddamn it JR...

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

0 chance we target ROR with a contract extension. We don’t do expensive rentals.

Very little chance on Tarasenko too

 

[cptjeff]

0 chance we target ROR with a contract extension. We don’t do expensive rentals.

Very little chance on Tarasenko too

With an extension, it's not a rental, it's a hockey deal.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Ooh, ROR could be a rental or an extension target. Yes please. That would shore up the 2C slot no question.

Also famous around these parts as one of the two guys most of us were expecting when we picked Paradis. Goddamn it JR...

All these years later I’m still not sure who Phillipe Paradis is.

 

[bleedgreen]

I’m not seeing Tarasenko as the guy we finally start throwing ufa extensions at.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I’m not seeing Tarasenko as the guy we finally start throwing ufa extensions at.

Nah we will get Pastrnak instead...

 

[bleedgreen]

While we’re having delusions of grandeur my vote for trade with extension would be Bo Horvat. Similar attributes to ROR but better skater with more years in front of him.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

With an extension, it's not a rental, it's a hockey deal.

Sure but that violates my first point then. 0 chance for an extension at 31+

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Holding on to assets for the ideal hockey trade hasn’t bore fruit for them in recent years. A Trocheck type trade occurs infrequently, leaguewide.

They may have to bend on their perceived principles to get what the team needs at a certain point.

 

[DAChampion]

How is Kotkaniemi doing? Is there a bright future for him in Carolina?

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

How is Kotkaniemi doing? Is there a bright future for him in Carolina?

He's doing just ok. Starting slow, he's been the center between Svech and Necas who have both obviously had unreal starts to the year but most here would agree he's been more or less a passenger with them. I think he'll ultimately settle as our 3C as Staal ages (maybe as a level of contributor not dissimilar to Lars Eller, given your profile pic).