Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[Thechozen1]

There's an article in the Sun talking about possible trade targets. Calgary seems to have something that could improve our team.

Lindholm and Tanev to the Jets for Heinola and Gus. We give Calgary some prospects that are NHL ready and we get veteran quality and skill. Knowing the Jets would have to compete against others, we'd probably have to throw in a condition 1st/2nd?

We probably have to move Schmidt and Someone from the bottom 6 to make room too.

I think Tanev ends up back in Vancouver. They know he was a fit there before, but I hope he ends up in the East. I hate to see Vancouver get any tougher to play against.

 

[JetsFan815]

The more I think about it, Wennberg seems like a Chevy type of move similar to the Namestnikov acquisition.

If Seattle sells, he could be a solid pick up. Not the big sexy splash some want, but a decent addition.

He still a very smart and speedy player.

He is not a bad player but he is another guy in the Iafallo mold who I don't think moves the needle much for what the Jets are looking for. More of a depth guy and imo not an upgrade over Vlad other than on the faceoff dot.

 

[Jets 31]

Maybe we get Laine back and then only play him on our PP sorta like a Designator hitter in baseball.

 

[ps241]

Maybe we get Laine back and then only play him on our PP sorta like a Designator hitter in baseball.

As a 19 year old with Buff he had 20 PP goals for us that season which is crazy. In the last 5 seasons he has “totalled” 26 PP goals so he is now averaging about 5 per season which doesn’t move the needle for our PP. The league figured out how to minimize him as a threat on the PP.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Sportsnet with its finger on the pulse of the jets prospects to watch on trade deadline!!

1. McGroarty
2. Rashevsky

And that’s it! (Brief mention of lambert and someone else - but almost to disregard them)

lol. Oh Sportsnet, never stop never stopping.

Worse take on prospects at deadline than I could have imagined. Well done.

Scout's Analysis: Prospects of interest on six 'buying' teams in NHL trade market

Prospects and draft picks are the currency buying teams have to offer around the NHL trade deadline, but not all have the same depth. Scout Jason Bukala looks at six potential buyers, and the top prospects they may have to consider parting with in any big move.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[Jet]

Sportsnet with its finger on the pulse of the jets prospects to watch on trade deadline!!

1. McGroarty
2. Rashevsky

And that’s it! (Brief mention of lambert and someone else - but almost to disregard them)

lol. Oh Sportsnet, never stop never stopping.

Worse take on prospects at deadline than I could have imagined. Well done.

Scout's Analysis: Prospects of interest on six 'buying' teams in NHL trade market

Prospects and draft picks are the currency buying teams have to offer around the NHL trade deadline, but not all have the same depth. Scout Jason Bukala looks at six potential buyers, and the top prospects they may have to consider parting with in any big move.

www.sportsnet.ca

Besides the fact that the org is super high on McGroarty- he is the kind of player a Jets factory would spit out if that existed.

I REALLY hope the org. doesn't use Chibrikov as a trade chip. I feel like he's almost ignored around here .

He's pacing for a 30/70 rookie season, has won a championship, and I think he makes the team next year. I'm really excited to see where his ceiling is.

I do think the Jets have a lot of non junk assets to dangle in a deal.

Chisholm, Capobianco, Stanley, Toninato, AJF are all guys who can immediately slide into a team's regular roster and contribute.

Iafallo and even Schmidt I think could be attractive options depending on our trading teams needs.

Lucius, Torgersson, Zhilkin are interesting prospects that while aren't home runs could be good sweeteners.

Though I'd hate to lose Barron or Gus - there a couple of young nhl regulars that could really help a team and I believe still have untapped potential.

Not to mention our cap space. I think we're in such a good spot to add, especially considering how the heavy hitters at tdl aren't this year.

That should depress the prices.

 

[WolfHouse]

Sportsnet with its finger on the pulse of the jets prospects to watch on trade deadline!!

1. McGroarty
2. Rashevsky

And that’s it! (Brief mention of lambert and someone else - but almost to disregard them)

lol. Oh Sportsnet, never stop never stopping.

Worse take on prospects at deadline than I could have imagined. Well done.

Scout's Analysis: Prospects of interest on six 'buying' teams in NHL trade market

Prospects and draft picks are the currency buying teams have to offer around the NHL trade deadline, but not all have the same depth. Scout Jason Bukala looks at six potential buyers, and the top prospects they may have to consider parting with in any big move.

www.sportsnet.ca

Someone should tell him that Dorion is gone and no one else is going to trade top first round prospects/picks

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Besides the fact that the org is super high on McGroarty- he is the kind of player a Jets factory would spit out if that existed.

I REALLY hope the org. doesn't use Chibrikov as a trade chip. I feel like he's almost ignored around here .

He's pacing for a 30/70 rookie season, has won a championship, and I think he makes the team next year. I'm really excited to see where his ceiling is.

I do think the Jets have a lot of non junk assets to dangle in a deal.

Chisholm, Capobianco, Stanley, Toninato, AJF are all guys who can immediately slide into a team's regular roster and contribute.

Iafallo and even Schmidt I think could be attractive options depending on our trading teams needs.

Lucius, Torgersson, Zhilkin are interesting prospects that while aren't home runs could be good sweeteners.

Though I'd hate to lose Barron or Gus - there a couple of young nhl regulars that could really help a team and I believe still have untapped potential.

Not to mention our cap space. I think we're in such a good spot to add, especially considering how the heavy hitters at tdl aren't this year.

That should depress the prices.

I skate with a guy who scouts for another team and he thinks the Jets will not trade any of their blue chip prospects. So McGroarty/Salo/Lambert/Chibrikov/Lucuis/Barlow will all in that category. I tend to agree with him. He does think that they might throw Heinola/Rashevsky as the guys along with draft picks. I tend to agree. I was trying to think when the Jets traded a blue chip prospect other then moving on from Laine etc..

 

[surixon]

I skate with a guy who scouts for another team and he thinks the Jets will not trade any of their blue chip prospects. So McGroarty/Salo/Lambert/Chibrikov/Lucuis/Barlow will all in that category. I tend to agree with him. He does think that they might throw Heinola/Rashevsky as the guys along with draft picks. I tend to agree. I was trying to think when the Jets traded a blue chip prospect other then moving on from Laine etc..

Curious that he thinks they'd throw in Heinola. Who in the org is going to replace Schmidt next season if not him.

 

[Jet]

I skate with a guy who scouts for another team and he thinks the Jets will not trade any of their blue chip prospects. So McGroarty/Salo/Lambert/Chibrikov/Lucuis/Barlow will all in that category. I tend to agree with him. He does think that they might throw Heinola/Rashevsky as the guys along with draft picks. I tend to agree. I was trying to think when the Jets traded a blue chip prospect other then moving on from Laine etc..

I would hate to lose Heinola as he really could end up being 'the one that got away' but I think with how we're looking right now, the guys that we could leverage are players who really should be on the nhl but just can't crack our lineup.

I believe Heinola has extremely high value around the league, and guys like Stanley, Capo and Chisholm are probably also drawing inquiries

Curious that he thinks they'd throw in Heinola. Who in the org is going to replace Schmidt next season if not him.

Maybe... Schmidt?

I think the org. really values what he brings. Could also be that whomever we trade Heinola for is Schmidts replacement?

Curious that he thinks they'd throw in Heinola. Who in the org is going to replace Schmidt next season if not him.

Maybe... Schmidt?

I think the org. really values what he brings. Could also be that whomever we trade Heinola for is Schmidts replacement?

 

[surixon]

I would hate to lose Heinola as he really could end up being 'the one that got away' but I think with how we're looking right now, the guys that we could leverage are players who really should be on the nhl but just can't crack our lineup.

I believe Heinola has extremely high value around the league, and guys like Stanley, Capo and Chisholm are probably also drawing inquiries


Maybe... Schmidt?

I think the org. really values what he brings. Could also be that whomever we trade Heinola for is Schmidts replacement?


Maybe... Schmidt?

I think the org. really values what he brings. Could also be that whomever we trade Heinola for is Schmidts replacement?

They won't be able to fit his cap hit in next year imo. They were also willing to give Ville his spot out of camp which to me signaled what direction they are likely to go in.

We have 4 dmen that can walk over the next two years and very little in the system. It seems short sighted to move out one of the few good young cost controlled dmen we have as we are facing a cap crunch.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Curious that he thinks they'd throw in Heinola. Who in the org is going to replace Schmidt next season if not him.

A cheap UFA is my guess.

 

[LowLefty]

They won't be able to fit his cap hit in next year imo. They were also willing to give Ville his spot out of camp which to me signaled what direction they are likely to go in.

We have 4 dmen that can walk over the next two years and very little in the system. It seems short sighted to move out one of the few good young cost controlled dmen we have as we are facing a cap crunch.

I wasn't aware that the org was willing to give Ville a spot over anyone - I always thought (assumed) he would get an opportunity but there was nothing really stated that he was in over another player. Did I misread / hear this?
You'd think the org would want to see him in real games (reg season) before making that call -

 

[surixon]

I wasn't aware that the org was willing to give Ville a spot over anyone - I always thought (assumed) he would get an opportunity but there was nothing really stated that he was in over another player. Did I misread / hear this?
You'd think the org would want to see him in real games (reg season) before making that call -

Bones stated he won a starting spot. I'd assume that was over Schmidt. Obviously he would have had to play well to maintain it.

 

[LowLefty]

I would hate to lose Heinola as he really could end up being 'the one that got away' but I think with how we're looking right now, the guys that we could leverage are players who really should be on the nhl but just can't crack our lineup.

I think Ville will still get his look - the org will need to know what they have and if it supports the depth they will need going into the PO's.
I don't know if he is the guy - but they will need to determine that via seeing him in action in reg season minutes.
He may not unseat Smitty but he would still have depth value - I'm still in the camp that thinks they are still sorting out what they will need on the blueline by the deadline - Ville will be in that conversation you'd think.
So, as you note, can he crack the lineup?

Bones stated he won a starting spot. I'd assume that was over Schmidt. Obviously he would have had to play well to maintain it.

Did he win a starting spot or did he earn a look - that's what I am not clear on and I'm not sure if the message was that cut and dry.
I always thought the plan was to maybe platoon Smitty / Ville and then determine who stuck.

 

[surixon]

I think Ville will still get his look - the org will need to know what they have and if it supports the depth they will need going into the PO's.
I don't know if he is the guy - but they will need to determine that via seeing him in action in reg season minutes.
He may not unseat Smitty but he would still have depth value - I'm still in the camp that thinks they are still sorting out what they will need on the blueline by the deadline - Ville will be in that conversation you'd think.
So, as you note, can he crack the lineup?


Did he win a starting spot or did he earn a look - that's what I am not clear on and I'm not sure if the message was that cut and dry.
I always thought the plan was to maybe platoon Smitty / Ville and then determine who stuck.

It could have been that, no way to know now due to the injury. But either way I think they tipped their hand as to what their succession plan for Schmidt's role is.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

The Jets were very interested in Ivan Provorov at one time wonder if they would still be

 

[Mooche]

Did he win a starting spot or did he earn a look - that's what I am not clear on and I'm not sure if the message was that cut and dry.
I always thought the plan was to maybe platoon Smitty / Ville and then determine who stuck.

Sure seemed like Heinola was destined to take that 3RD spot out of camp. Injuries obviously threw a wrench into those plans. Plus, Samberg and Schmidt has been a solid 3rd pairing, and we obviously know the status of the cap-hit on Schmidt's contract for this year anyways.

The deadline is going to be interesting because if they add a temporary insurance policy dman for the stretch run and that's it -- I think they could look to fill that 3RD spot next season internally.

Chisholm/Heinola could provide a relatively cheap option to fill that position for the Jets next season. If they aren't able to use either asset to secure a bigger fish in a trade, and if other teams just sort of see them as "filler" in a deal, it could be a situation where they simply mean more to the Jets by being an available option.

I don't think Stanley is even entering the equation, especially since we are talking about his off-hand. He's surely going to be gone.

 

[LowLefty]

It could have been that, no way to know now due to the injury. But either way I think they tipped their hand as to what their succession plan for Schmidt's role is.

Yes, possibly - and I think the narrative that we simply don't know is closer to the truth than "Ville in in" (and Smitty is out).
I can't see this org making that call until they saw Ville in reg season action -

 

[surixon]

Yes, possibly - and I think the narrative that we simply don't know is closer to the truth than "Ville in in" (and Smitty is out).
I can't see this org making that call until they saw Ville in reg season action -

A starting spot is just that a spot to start and I think it's fair to say given what the coach stated Ville was going to start the first game in that spot. After that it would be totally dependent on performance. I don't actually think we are saying much differently.

 

[Jets 31]

The Jets were very interested in Ivan Provorov at one time wonder if they would still be

Didn't realize he was making so much money, 8.5 million salary and 6.75 million cap hit for this year and next.

 

[LowLefty]

A starting spot is just that a spot to start and I think it's fair to say given what the coach stated Ville was going to start the first game in that spot. After that it would be totally dependent on performance. I don't actually think we are saying much differently.

I only bring it up because if that was the confirmed plan, they would also have needed to make that clear to Smitty - in other words, Ville is in and you no longer have a spot in the lineup. I didn't get a sense that this discussion took place with Smitty and I think they would have avoided that discussion until they were sure of what they were doing. There would have been no point in making Ville promises at that point because it would not only have been premature (no reg season minutes), but it would have complicated things a bit with Smitty (and potentially the room).

Just wanted to clarify my point - I think we both are on the same page.

 

[surixon]

I only bring it up because if that was the confirmed plan, they would also have needed to make that clear to Smitty - in other words, Ville is in and you no longer have a spot in the lineup. I didn't get a sense that this discussion took place with Smitty and I think they would have avoided that discussion until they were sure of what they were doing. There would have been no point in making Ville promises at that point because it would not only have been premature (no reg season minutes), but it would have complicated things a bit with Smitty (and potentially the room).

Just wanted to clarify my point - I think we both are on the same page.

Hard to say. Given the injury occurred a week before the season started they likely didn't have to have a conversation with Schmidt about role as the plans changed.

I'm not sure it would have impacted the room much seeing as they have scratched Nate on a number of occasions to date for younger dmen.

 

[10Ducky10]

Didn't realize he was making so much money, 8.5 million salary and 6.75 million cap hit for this year and next.

Philly retained and his cap hit is 4.725m I believe.

How has Ville looked on the farm the last couple of weeks?

edit ... So, it was a 3 way deal and LA retained 2.025m of his deal. He isn't very good defensively.

 

[LowLefty]

Hard to say. Given the injury occurred a week before the season started they likely didn't have to have a conversation with Schmidt about role as the plans changed.

I'm not sure it would have impacted the room much seeing as they have scratched Nate on a number of occasions to date for younger dmen.

The timing of the injury is not really the important point - it's the timing of the announcement that Ville was replacing someone in the lineup.
I stick to my opinion that the announcement was more about providing Ville with an opportunity and less about him taking over a spot from a vet.