All Purpose Mitch Marner Talk II

[LeafsNation75]

Is this a joke? He was not trying to get in front of that puck. he just was not able to react fast enough to get out of the way of it. He was "hit by a clearing attempt"....

How many times do we see a player doing that so they can knock the puck down and keep possession of it in the offensive zone, because Craig Simpson mentioned trying to create a turnover. Yes the puck hitting Marner in his ear happened very fast, however you can not say he was only trying to get out of the way of Trouba's clearing attempt.

 

[Antropovsky]

How many times do we see a player doing that so they can knock the puck down and keep possession of it in the offensive zone, because Craig Simpson mentioned trying to create a turnover. Yes the puck hitting Marner in his ear happened very fast, however you can not say he was only trying to get out of the way of Trouba's clearing attempt.

Trying to get into position to knock a puck down with your stick in the offensive zone, is not the same is dropping in front of a slap shot in the defensive zone.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Anyone agree or disagree with Mitch Marner projected to get 59 points next season?

 

[Buds17]

Anyone agree or disagree with Mitch Marner projected to get 59 points next season?

He's been over PPG in each of the past two seasons. It's not a stretch.

 

[axlrose87]

The few times when Marner shots the puck he's been able to score goals like this. So I wouldn't say his shot isn't weak, the problem is he doesn't use it a lot.

Sorry man but he definitely has a weak shot. A very weak shot. Teams just back away from him on the power play now.

 

[kk87]

Anyone agree or disagree with Mitch Marner projected to get 59 points next season?

Those numbers seem pretty low for Marner and Matthews (and some of the other guys on the list to boot) unless they’re accounting for missed games

 

[LeafsNation75]

Those numbers seem pretty low for Marner and Matthews (and some of the other guys on the list to boot) unless they’re accounting for missed games

Since Marner has already had a 94 point season in 82 games played during the 2018-19 season, I wonder why they have Eichel ahead of him getting 67 points? His career high for points is 82 in 77 games played during the 2018-19 season, however Marner could easily get more points no matter if he's on a 5v5 line with Matthews or Tavares.

 

[613Leafer]

Since Marner has already had a 94 point season in 82 games played during the 2018-19 season, I wonder why they have Eichel ahead of him getting 67 points? His career high for points is 82 in 77 games played during the 2018-19 season, however Marner could easily get more points no matter if he's on a 5v5 line with Matthews or Tavares.

Eichel had 78 points in 68 games last year (94 point pace) while playing with guys like Olofsson, Skinner, Johansson, etc. This year he gets to play with Hall.

I think it's probably close to a coin flip who gets more points out of Eichel vs Marner.

 

[Antropovsky]

Eichel had 78 points in 68 games last year (94 point pace) while playing with guys like Olofsson, Skinner, Johansson, etc. This year he gets to play with Hall.

I think it's probably close to a coin flip who gets more points out of Eichel vs Marner.

Eichels trajectory keeps going upward despite lesser talented players. He also has a better set of tools than Marner. Size, skating, shot... and now he has Hall, as you said where before he was essentially with 2nd line - 3rd line players. Marner plays with Tavares and Hyman and was 12 points over a ppg and 8 points over a ppg.

I know I rag on Marner alot... but 12 and 8 points over a ppg, while playing in an offensive system and on a line with Tavares and Hyman (with Matthews on the other line taking big matchups)... does not have me jumping up and down. Kucherov, McDavid, Panarin, Draisaitl, MacKinnon are putting what 15-40 points over a ppg? Eichel was at 10 points over a ppg. His closest teammate had 28 points less than him.

Matthews had 80 points in 70 games... 47 being goals.

At this point i think Marner is in the Aho, Connor range... getting paid like he is in McDavid, Panarin, Eichel range.

Maybe the expectations were too high last season...(with Stanley Cup favorite expectations) Tavares having a newborn, captaincy, marner having a new huge contract, an A and Babs getting fired....

Hoping he proves me wrong but a weak on his skates 5'11 player, with a skating style closer to Connor Brown than Connor McDavid and a weak shot does not have me jumping up and down in excitement, especially with the game seemingly only getting faster (Playoffs games gets noticeably faster and he seemed to struggle alot against Columbus players speed).. again maybe it was the layoff.

 

[Dekes For Days]

At this point i think Marner is in the Aho, Connor range... getting paid like he is in McDavid, Panarin, Eichel range.

There is so much wrong with this. McDavid, Panarin, and Eichel are not the same quality, Aho and Connor are not the same quality, and Marner is much better than both Aho and Connor.

 

[Antropovsky]

There is so much wrong with this. McDavid, Panarin, and Eichel are not the same quality, Aho and Connor are not the same quality, and Marner is much better than both Aho and Connor.

Your posts are always the same... you make bold claims but dont back up any of your opinions. Likely because your afraid of judgements or can't back it up because your wrong.

Aho has 8 goals and 24 post seasons points in his last 23 games (over last two seasons). Marner has 5 goals and 21 points in his last 26 post season (over last 4 seasons). Marner has 2 goals and 8 points in 12 games over the last two post seasons.

Sure Marner had more assists and points than Aho (on a team that collectively put up what 30 more goals than Carolina?). Aho has 38 goals last season to Marners 16.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

There is so much wrong with this. McDavid, Panarin, and Eichel are not the same quality, Aho and Connor are not the same quality, and Marner is much better than both Aho and Connor.

Lol, Aho was pacing for almost 50 goals last year and had 12 points in 8 playoff games. 2 mil less cap hit. It’s such a joke. It’s so embarrassing being a fan of this team.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Your posts are always the same... you make bold claims but dont back up any of your opinions.

I actually constantly back up my statements, and have done so, to you, for many of these exact players. You are the one making this outlandish claim, and you have not backed up your opinion or groupings with anything here, or in any of your previous posts claiming how horrible and unimpressive and overrated Marner is.

 

[Antropovsky]

I actually constantly back up my statements, and have done so, to you, for many of these exact players. You are the one making this outlandish claim, and you have not backed up your opinion or groupings with anything here, or in any of your previous posts claiming how horrible and unimpressive and overrated Marner is.

I edited my post.... look forward to your response.

 

[Bomber0104]

Lol, Aho was pacing for almost 50 goals last year and had 12 points in 8 playoff games. 2 mil less cap hit. It’s such a joke. It’s so embarrassing being a fan of this team.

This is the same username who on the mainboards has previously claimed that there's a "premium" placed on goalscoring centres.

The same username that argued tooth-and-nail almost every day morning/noon/night for an entire off-season here on HFboards (I kid you not) that Mitch Marner isnt worth as much as Auston Matthews (a player on the same team) in salary because he is a winger and doesn't score as many goals.

Imagine now coming over here on the Leafs boards and then suggesting the very opposite?

Yikes.

I'll let you handle it from here though Waffles.

You know how it is.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Aho was pacing for almost 50 goals last year and had 12 points in 8 playoff games.

He was not pacing for 50 goals, despite leading the league in empty net goals, and he was below P/GP. He got 8 points in 3 games against the worst defensive team in the league playing their 3rd best goalie, and then once again performed worse in the type of series that Marner has consistently been in.

 

[SlpLessInMuskoka18]

Mitchy plays 130 minutes of PK gents... he's going to crush Eichel LOL Marner will be around 4th on this list at the end of the season.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I edited my post.... look forward to your response.

Aho has 8 goals and 24 post seasons points in his last 23 games (over last two seasons).

As expected, you're basing this entirely on the playoffs, with absolutely none of the context necessary to compare scoring in the playoffs. Aho has not performed any better in the types of series that Marner has been in. He racked up points against the worst defensive team in the league. That 3-game sample that Marner has never gotten does not make Aho better.

Aho has 38 goals last season to Marners 16.

You're comparing a playmaker and a goalscorer by goals, which is ridiculous. Marner is a better point and primary point producer.

 

[Dekes For Days]

This is the same username who on the mainboards has previously claimed that there's a "premium" placed on goalscoring centres.

The same username that argued tooth-and-nail almost every day morning/noon/night for an entire off-season (I kid you not) that Mitch Marner isnt worth as much as Auston Matthews (a player on the same team) in salary

Please do not misrepresent the statements of others. Also, Marner didn't deserve as much as Matthews, and he didn't get as much as Matthews.

 

[Bomber0104]

Please do not misrepresent the statements of others.

This is false.

I've perfectly represented all of your statements in past, present, and even..

The future!

You're actually that predictable...

Also, Marner didn't deserve as much as Matthews, and he didn't get as much as Matthews.

We know he did because of the alleged "goal scoring centre premium" phenomena that seems to only apply to Auston Matthews but strangely not other players around the league whose GM's negotiate tougher than the wimpy GM who runs the Leafs..

Your blatant contradiction is glaring here and it'll be interesting to watch you try to wiggle and squirm your way out of it.

My prediction is you'll spend at least 4 pages and roughly 100 posts attempting to do it...

 

[cookie]

Mitchy plays 130 minutes of PK gents... he's going to crush Eichel LOL Marner will be around 4th on this list at the end of the season.

Marner and Eichel make for bad comparisons - Marner has played fewer 5v5 and PP minutes per game under Babcock compared to Eichel and now Marner's been tasked with playing PK minutes on top of that.

League-wide, the Sabres and Leafs ranked #22 and #23 in powerplay opportunities. Getting more calls - hopefully with veterans berating the refs - should help Marner out in maxing his point totals.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I've perfectly represented all of your statements

You have not. Do not misrepresent the statements of others.

We know he did because of the alleged "goal scoring centre premium" phenomena that seems to only apply to Auston Matthews but strangely not other players around the league whose GM's negotiate tougher than the wimpy GM who runs the Leafs..

Matthews' contract is in line with his comparables, and not just in terms of goals. If contracts were just based off goal-scoring, Matthews would have an amazing contract.

 

[FraumBallard]

Poulin ranked Connor and Tkachuk ahead of Marner Holy heavens is he useless.

I would take Tkachuk ahead of Marner every time.
Tkachuk is a WAY better player.
Marner is a one trick pony.
Small/Soft/Poor Defence and a whiner to boot.

 

[Raging Bull]

It’s such a joke. It’s so embarrassing being a fan of this team.

Nobody is forcing you lol

 

[SlpLessInMuskoka18]

I would take Tkachuk ahead of Marner every time.
Tkachuk is a WAY better player.
Marner is a one trick pony.
Small/Soft/Poor Defence and a whiner to boot.

You don't go from a position of strength and weaken yourself.. And I love M.T - Basically I'd give any other addition with Willy for him. Clearly.

M.T / A.M / M.M - Be like when I was watching the Knights with an upgraded C - You'd actually see Matthews play with some emotion having a M.T as his left winger.