Player Discussion All Purpose Goaltending Thread

[Chainshot]

Yes, one of them will def be avaliable with Kochetkov on solid deal and at least good enough to play 30 games. Raanta has played well, but he's hurt quite often...Anderson will still get a decently expensive 3 year deal somewhere I imagine.

Andersen also gets hurt a lot.

 

[elchud]

I will forever wonder how great Levi could have been in Rochester. Damn.

 

[Jim Bob]

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I wish I had access to the CSA data to try and come up with the best fits in goal for the chances that the Sabres give up...

Linus Ullmark Pro Reads - InGoal Magazine

Patience, Depth Key Against Modern, Moving Parts Power Plays

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I think you can see the play without an account and not the Pro Read where Ullmark talks through what he saw and why he played things the way that he did.

“Some teams, especially Carolina, they are very good at moving and they have a lot of moving parts that are interchangeable,” Ullmark said. “With good teams come a lot of different reads … so for this one it’s more about staying patient and not trying to overplay any situations.”

Ullmark takes that approach on the pass into the bumper, take a little ice but not pushing out aggressively even when it looked like a potential one-timer, which makes the next part easier.

“He holds it for a split moment that makes it a little easier to read,” Ullmark said.

As for sliding across, even from that conservative depth, it’s an easy choice given Aho is in a one-time position, which is hopefully something you identified in the save video already.

Which leaves us with the decision to regain his edges, something Ullmark said he did once he recognized Aho wasn’t able to catch that pass cleanly because it’s a bit behind him.

“It gives me enough time to catch my edge, gain depth and then try to cover as much net as possible and read a release for high glove and make a save,” Ullmark said.

It was also interesting to hear Ullmark talk about the cues for reading that high shot, including the “lifted shoulders” while also cautioning how increased deception among shooters has made it dangerous to commit to those instincts prematurely. It’s another great example of the thought process of one of the game’s top goalies, and there’s plenty more coming.

I think that chance shows how slim the margins are in the NHL. If that pass is in Aho's wheelhouse and he can get off a one timer, that is a much tougher chance against.

 

[oldgoalie]

Is 2023 Vezina Trophy as Obvious as Ullmark? - InGoal Magazine

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I wish I had access to the CSA data to try and come up with the best fits in goal for the chances that the Sabres give up...

Linus Ullmark Pro Reads - InGoal Magazine

Patience, Depth Key Against Modern, Moving Parts Power Plays

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I think you can see the play without an account and not the Pro Read where Ullmark talks through what he saw and why he played things the way that he did.



I think that chance shows how slim the margins are in the NHL. If that pass is in Aho's wheelhouse and he can get off a one timer, that is a much tougher chance against.

reading the play in that split second...good stuff by Ullmark.

 

[joshjull]

Do you honestly see Adams doing this? To be honest - it's what i thought would happen right up until Levi signed & played his first game....

But after the way Adams rode him - i can only see Levi being in the NHL next year.

Huh? Are you implying Adams is dictating who plays?

 

[Chainshot]

I am assuming they aren't bringing in another tender until such time as they actually make a trade/signing.

 

[Chainshot]

Also, I would love it if UPL popped up on Team Finland for the WC's. I think he needs to see more games and if he can have some quality starts before next fall, it'll make for an easier summer psychologically.

 

[joshjull]

Also, I would love it if UPL popped up on Team Finland for the WC's. I think he needs to see more games and if he can have some quality starts before next fall, it'll make for an easier summer psychologically.

On that front I‘m glad his last start was a good one vs Philly.

 

[Chainshot]

On that front I‘m glad his last start was a good one vs Philly.

I don't know if he was asked in the press scrum about it or not - his was the first segment I listened to and I really don't want to go back through it.

It reminds me of the years when I would pine for Risto to go, do something, work on his game, maybe feel good about playing the game again. And year after year, he would just toddle off to the gym instead.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Huh? Are you implying Adams is dictating who plays?

Indirectly yes.

He controls the options Granato has to work with.

Do you think if he'd gone out of his way to acquire a true #1, Levi would have been given the majority of the starts since he signed?

 

[joshjull]

Indirectly yes.

He controls the options Granato has to work with.

Do you think if he'd gone out of his way to acquire a true #1, Levi would have been given the majority of the starts since he signed?

This seems like a very convoluted way to complain that Adams didn’t get a true #1.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

This seems like a very convoluted way to complain that Adams didn’t get a true #1.

No it isn't. If you scroll back to my OP on the subject you will see it was much more of an observation than a complaint.

 

[joshjull]

No it isn't. If you scroll back to my OP on the subject you will see it was much more of an observation than a complaint.

Fair enough

The Levi situation is a simple as he came in and played well. So they kept playing him. The idea that Adams was playing 3 dimensional chess to force Donny into playing him down the stretch is a bit much.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Fair enough

The Levi situation is a simple as he came in and played well. So they kept playing him. The idea that Adams was playing 3 dimensional chess to force Donny into playing him down the stretch is a bit much.

It's not a stretch. And it's not even 3D chess.

It's as simple as Adams acquiring Levi & being convinced that he's going to be his guy as soon as he signs - that he's not even been interested in acquiring any other legitimate competition.

 

[Chainshot]

Found a new potential tender for Buffalo -

 

[dkollidas]

Andersen also gets hurt a lot.

Doesn’t that work in our favor a bit maybe? Sign Anderson, keep UPL, waive Comrie. Levi starts in Rochester, comes up for the inevitable injury after 20gms and then takes the bull by the horns.

 

[Jim Bob]

Skating like Saros is how Levi wins, as well.

 

[TehDoak]

Andersen also gets hurt a lot.

Maybe they can talk Kevyn into signing another aging Anderson that is a few years past his prime. They'd even save money on re-lettering goalie jerseys.

I'm imagining a frantic call in July to the Sabres store from the front office:

"The Anderson jerseys, take off the clearance tags!"
"The clearance tags?"
"FULL PRICE, WE SELL THEM FULL PRICE, NO DISCOUNTS"

 

[Jim Bob]

Maybe they can talk Kevyn into signing another aging Anderson that is a few years past his prime. They'd even save money on re-lettering goalie jerseys.

I'm imagining a frantic call in July to the Sabres store from the front office:

"The Anderson jerseys, take off the clearance tags!"
"The clearance tags?"
"FULL PRICE, WE SELL THEM FULL PRICE, NO DISCOUNTS"

I don't know how easy it is to turn an o into an e.

 

[Diaspora]

Skating like Saros is how Levi wins, as well.

I'd move heaven and earth for Saros. He's a current #1 and great mentor for Levi. Find OP's partner, and this team contends in '24.

13OA + UPL + Kulich would be fine with me.

 

[TehDoak]

I don't know how easy it is to turn an o into an e.

Just get Fredrick to legally change his last name.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

I'd move heaven and earth for Saros. He's a current #1 and great mentor for Levi. Find OP's partner, and this team contends in '24.

13OA + UPL + Kulich would be fine with me.

There's no way they are signing Saros to essentially be 1B. I'm sure @Jim Bob & i had this debate recently.

I don't see a world where Levi isn't the starter / 1A.

The best we should realistically hope for is an upgrade over UPL/Comrie to play behind Levi.

 

[Jim Bob]

There's no way they are signing Saros to essentially be 1B. I'm sure @Jim Bob & i had this debate recently.

I don't see a world where Levi isn't the starter / 1A.

The best we should realistically hope for is an upgrade over UPL/Comrie to play behind Levi.

Saros is firmly in the realm of something I would try and do if I were GM but not something I expect Kevyn Adams to actually do.

And honestly, I expect him to take the path of least resistance and run things back with UPL, Comrie, and Levi and let things play out in camp as they may.

 

[Zman5778]

And honestly, I expect him to take the path of least resistance and run things back with UPL, Comrie, and Levi and let things play out in camp as they may.

I can't picture them going with a 3-headed goalie again.......and I REALLY can't picture them being OK with losing Comrie or UPL for nothing if they expose either to waivers.

I think Comrie or UPL exits via trade..........and I think they trade UPL, as he'll have more value as a younger goalie who has shown signs of being an NHL starter. I also think that they think very highly of Comrie as a locker room presence, which helps his case to stick around as the 1B to Levi's 1A.

 

[Jim Bob]

I can't picture them going with a 3-headed goalie again.......and I REALLY can't picture them being OK with losing Comrie or UPL for nothing if they expose either to waivers.

I think Comrie or UPL exits via trade..........and I think they trade UPL, as he'll have more value as a younger goalie who has shown signs of being an NHL starter. I also think that they think very highly of Comrie as a locker room presence, which helps his case to stick around as the 1B to Levi's 1A.

I would be surprised if they are so confident in Levi after the 7 game sample that they make a move to thin out their goaltending depth before training camp.

And I think Comrie clears relatively easily given his salary and how rough a year he just had.